ColAvanor Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I was asked to do a portrait of my mother for her blog. I'm unaware if posting it here is a rule violation or not but here goes. (it's going to be public anyway on the blog..). It took me about 2,5 hours to get to the point it is now. And am I pleased! Finally something that turned out ok. (not that I have made anything in ages). It's brushed on photoshop without using too much smudging (yippee). The version here is scaled down 50% from the original. The hair is still unfinished as anyone equiped with eyes can notice. Just wanted to make a preview so I rushed some hair to it. Oh and believe or not, it looks like her. Oh and a reference? Didn't have to resort to anything digital this time :wink: Comment or just say hi! (any improvement tips are highly appreciated) PS The blog's name is "sun ÃÆÃâÃâäitis" = "your mother" and it's one of the most popular in Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sereth Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 :shock: Liar. Too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despaxes Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 you can tell where you cropped that in PS...you really didnt think we would notice? thanks everyone for the sigs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 you can tell where you cropped that in PS...you really didnt think we would notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD666 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 foo' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 did i mention she scares the hell out of me.. and PHOTOS of people arent allows on these forums, nor are photos that have been brushed over... :P yes.. u didnt do a very good job of covering up now did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despaxes Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 It's brushed on photoshop without using too much smudging (yippee). The version here is scaled down 50% from the original. The hair is still unfinished as anyone equiped with eyes can notice. Just wanted to make a preview so I rushed some hair to it. Oh and believe or not, it looks like her. Oh and a reference? Didn't have to resort to anything digital this time :wink: editing new stuff in that has nothing to do with the fact that this was a cropped and filtered picture, doesnt help thanks everyone for the sigs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColAvanor Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 you can tell where you cropped that in PS...you really didnt think we would notice? Your disbelief is actually flattering. Thanks guys. Tells me I did a good job. I still don't get what you mean by cropping. If you ever painted with PS you'd know it's always based on trial and error. You make an outline...you correct the outline. I started by roughly sketching the form of the face (and yes the whole neck is done as well and I'm next going to finish the pearl necklace I sketched). After that I've erased and painted near the edges a multitude of times trying to make the shape better and better. In a way you are right...it is a crop from the full version. (neck + upper parts of the dress ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ just a tiny bit of it though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despaxes Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 its not meant to flatter.... a digital painting looks completely different....no matter how much you say it isnt just a badly edited photo, that doesnt make it less true...if i can spot it, more than likely others at the other site will too thanks everyone for the sigs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anungunrama Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 you can tell where you cropped that in PS...you really didnt think we would notice? Your disbelief is actually flattering. Thanks guys. Tells me I did a good job. I still don't get what you mean by cropping. If you ever painted with PS you'd know it's always based on trial and error. You make an outline...you correct the outline. I started by roughly sketching the form of the face (and yes the whole neck is done as well and I'm next going to finish the pearl necklace I sketched). After that I've erased and painted near the edges a multitude of times trying to make the shape better and better. In a way you are right...it is a crop from the full version. (neck + upper parts of the dress ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ just a tiny bit of it though) What they're saying is that they can see the jaged lines of the former background where you selected the face to cut and paste. You nearly got me though. I was in the middle of setting up a shrine to you when I read the others posting Why did you choose your mother? Ever heard tell of a guy named "Edipus Rex"? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Looks like a painting to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabraulter Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Yea, looks painted to me. The hair, eyes, and lips are what prove it to me at least... Nice job :P Looks very realistic. And anungunrama, it's Oedipus ;) With an O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Yea, looks painted to me. The hair, eyes, and lips are what prove it to me at least... Nice job :P Looks very realistic. And anungunrama, it's Oedipus ;) With an O. Yeah the chin as well, proved it :) Great work Col, btw, off topic, but haven't seen you in forever :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cupcake Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I sort of believe he drew it.. look closely at the following the lips--the very light part. the eyes-looks realistic on actual size but if you zoom in..It doesn't look that complex compare to a real life image. The outline--it has a little shade of grey. I believe he burnt it to make it darker..and the top of her head have those bumpy thing that make no sense..looks like it is done in a rush like he said. the Hair--the front have different gradient but the back don't have a lot of those lighter gradient...the light from the real life are sufficent enough to make the hair look lighter if it can make the face looks that bright. But those ligher part of the hair is not there. and he said it is not finish on the hair :idea: I can't be 100% sure.. If you drew this, it is very good :) annnd....you can't really improve a lot in this forum. I think someone in this forum call tttia do digital painting too..It will be cool if he can look at it. if you want something to improve on....ehhh there is a weird "S" on her nose. It doesn't blend in with the darker part next to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowgravity Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Col is a Veteran here, I can vouch for the legitness of this. Very very nice, very realistic as some people have clearly pointed out. Everything looks very good except the hair at the top is rather choppy. Lowgravity, I want to be just like you. But...I never will be as 1337 as you. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azvareth Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Haha, if any of you who've said "omg cropped photo!!" had actually been around a few years ago, when ColAvanor was active here, you'd keep your mouths shut, and you would know what a talented painter/brusher ColAvanor is. Just to prove my point: (I hope you're ok with me posting these, Col) Owned. (brilliant piece btw.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColAvanor Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 One word Azvy. Old. I used to think the Lordi looked kind of neat , but now it's rather hideous. I'll redo it this thursday. (hello matey) And thanks for the ones in belief. The thing making it seem more photgraph-like IMO is the trick I tried to bring some texture to it. The hairline didn't look anything like real until I used this neat way to add "randomness". After brush strokes the skin was also way too "clean" so I went with it again. Has a great impact. For any uncontent souls: check the left side of the image. The shading is actually way off in places. And yes it's time for a bit of a confession. I did use a color reference. I have a terrible eye for color, so I used a photograp from another person's face to get some colors. Again...huge help. (If you look at the right part of the chin/cheek you might notice I went a little overboard with some greener hues) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Azvareth, posting Col's very old paintings only hinders his chances of being believed. :? Here are two things I personally think could be fixed up. 1. You really did achieve photorealism on this, just look at all these replies for proof. :) However, the bland/dark colours and gainy texture, not to mention blurriness, suggest "webcam" or "poor quality", which should be avoided for any portrait. :!: 2. The subject itself is bland, and everything about this looks unoriginal. It's just a woman smiling... The same effect could have been achieved with a cheap camera. What would I suggest? Something more interesting.. Possibly through lighting, mood/atmosphere, positioning, brush strokes, etc. For example, here is a basic portrait painting. This concept is nothing new, but the artist gets creative and uses wild strokes, textures, and colours to make it a real "wow". http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46947 I'm not saying this would fit with a portrait like what you've done, I'm just trying to find an example of how you can "spice" this up, and "think outside the box" even for such a simple concept. Otherwise, really great painting. Loads better than what I could do, so I hope you don't mind my somewhat harsh critique. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azvareth Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Azvareth, posting Col's very old paintings only hinders his chances of being believed. :? How? They thought he had just re-done a photograph. I posted his "old work" (which is the only work I have from him) to prove that he actually is a good artist, and would be capable of doing the piece he just posted. I'm confused as to how it would "hinder his chances of being believed", since they're hell a lot better than 98% of the crap posted at this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 They aren't bad paintings, but the difference between those quick paintings and this portrait is staggering. I'm sorry to say it, but his old stuff looks awful next to this portrait! Showing everyone his old stuff only makes him look less skilled, and makes it much harder for anyone to believe that he did this. With that said, I personally believe he painted this, and have since I first saw it, I'm simply voicing what I suspect most other people would be thinking (from what I've been reading on the first couple pages). :) The best proof to this would be a detailed, illustrative step-by-step! :twisted: *evil cackling at how devilishly sneaky of an idea that is* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azvareth Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 They aren't bad paintings, but the difference between those quick paintings and this portrait is staggering. Well yeah, of course. Even I see that. I was just posting them to show that he's not the kind of person that would need to "fake" a painting. Even if the quality between the old pieces and the new one aren't really comparable, however, the old ones are still good paintings. I personally find them awesome, still. As for the "making him look less talented", I dunno if I would reason like that... but maybe that's just me. I'll leave this thread now. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColAvanor Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 Indeed venomai, this is not art. Those pieces are. I'll never be an artist and I'm fine with it. I'll make dull lil things 'till forever. I'm greatly appreciative of your comments, though, and been pleased to watch your growth from mainly mediocre abstracts to some tasty paintings. However this particular one is close to what it aimed for. Still going to continue and make it LESS "photorealistic" and more comic. For the aim was this... This is a sort of tag/button/banner thing for her blog. But it isn't featuring her, rather it's an edit from Valio's (finnish dairy producer) advert. The plan is to make a mimicing one with her picture in a red color scheme. (which also demads a tone fix on the face since it's rather reddish) You might ask why the trouble for avatar size picture where nobody will notice a difference between a photo and the painting.... (well hopefully it won't get confused for a photo when I'm done with it)... and yes I plead to the tip.it forums' 5th amendment "I was bored". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terley Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 starin at that all day musta scared the s hite outa ya.. truely amazing tho, were is all this talent coming from anyways?? Im gettin shadowed :cry: :cry: That your mom? heheh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Indeed venomai, this is not art. Those pieces are. I'll never be an artist and I'm fine with it. I'll make dull lil things 'till forever. Not art??! This definitely is art! Although it might lack a bit of artistic creativity, it's still a very well done piece of art, by a very talented artist! :!: We are all artists here, and all have potential. It's really just the amount of experience & perseverance you have that determines the outcome of your work (talent helps, too.. hehe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiphus Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 So... when I come to Tip.It I browse by username, not thread title... so I'm scanning the first 10 pages of the board looking for names I recognize, and I see ColAvanor. "ahh, finally someone I know" I read the thread, and I just don't get it. You are talking about a painting of your mom, yet you posted a picture of her. What is going on. Then I look closer. And I remember the things you used to paint several years ago. Then it hits me. Awesome work Col, can't wait to see the hair! /edit - Oh yeah, then I read the replys, and couldn't help but laugh. Hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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