That last puzzle was just down-right irritating. 

it was more of a resource management thing, which i didn't think was that bad, it was just sort of crammed in all at once instead of being gradually introduced over a period of time, which they obviously thought could be managed by failing several times instead of letting the player enjoy learning

 

in particular, one of the mechanics can only be tracked by game chat messages, and i skipped over the instructions too fast to remember if they ever mentioned that

 

i think more overt cues to coming close to a failure state would be appreciated when throwing such a large set of variables at the player at once

Who on earth at Jagex thought "I know people really hate QTEs so let's make a terrible version of Sorceress's Garden where you can't use run and have to rely on QTEs, that sounds like something our players will love to do, especially with our less-than-reliable network infrastructure and latency issues!"

I looked at the rewards and apparently the only reward that I can't get elsewhere is Jerrod's Cape.

 

Meh, I don't steal gems from rogue's den, nor do I steal from the bakery stall, so the reward is pretty useless to me.

I enjoyed the story of this quest but I feel like the Sliske base puzzle portion was a bit poorly executed.

 

It seems like we could've had a series of progressively bigger rooms to get through each with new obstacles/tricks that can be overcome with specific talents of the party members.

 

I mean what was Jerrod's actual use in the 'sneaking' anyway? He walks up behind the wights that aren't facing him and kills them, using the doors we opened and can readily access ourselves.

Then in that final puzzle everyone felt a bit gimmicky/useless other than Jerrod and Moia

right, like salt in the wound

 

no wait don't do that

 

btw, you don't even need jerrod, if you shimmy sideways into their field of view you can glitch into their hitbox and take them out because they made it extremely generous in order to cancel out how badly their stealth design fails, to the point where they just overcompensate for how close you need to be

Triple coins and 1-3 noted gems from Rogues' Den safes

 

THIS IS ONE HAPPY THIEF!!!

Triple coins and 1-3 noted gems from Rogues' Den safes

 

THIS IS ONE HAPPY THIEF!!!

I guess that cape was a steal after all :P.

wait, so, how do you get back into zamorak's lair for the chests if you betray him?

it was more of a resource management thing, which i didn't think was that bad, it was just sort of crammed in all at once instead of being gradually introduced over a period of time, which they obviously thought could be managed by failing several times instead of letting the player enjoy learning

 

in particular, one of the mechanics can only be tracked by game chat messages, and i skipped over the instructions too fast to remember if they ever mentioned that

 

i think more overt cues to coming close to a failure state would be appreciated when throwing such a large set of variables at the player at once

 

Which mechanic could only be managed by game chat messages? I managed to do the whole thing without looking at the chat box

basically, the wights change entrances at pretty random intervals, so if you're in an interface when the cycling happens, you won't be able to tell if they've moved if you aren't concentrating on noticing if anything's changed (sometimes they don't actually move at all, so if they've shifted forward a cycle you won't be able to tell just by looking either), the only permanent sign that it's happened is a game message

 

if you're not using a widescreen view, you will also have to make a deliberate effort to see the tunnel entrances

Yea, I basically did checks after every action. Jerrod, checks, Moia, checks, Jerrod, etc

For those of you who cannot do the quest, I recorded it so you can see what the quest is all about! Those who can do the quest, mind the spoilers ;).

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CChFPrtMve0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-uUOlH5n08

Not even sub-30 minutes. For shame!

Not everyone is a spacebar hero.

Not even sub-30 minutes. For shame!

 

I like reading the story. Best I could trim it all off is like an hour tops if I were to spacebar all unnecessary chat.

As I posted on the screenshots threat, I have just reached the actual Floor 60 in Daemonheim. How exactly would someone even get to 61?

Despite having collected all the letters and lore in-game (pleasantly surprised when I had the dialogue option with Thok :)) I'm still very confused about Daemonheim, especially regarding its creation origin...  :mellow:

If you had talked to Bilrach when he was present, he would have explained it all to you.

 

As for how the ritual stones got down there, I believe you should ask a certain Exile at a certain port...

 

As it is, Floor 61 is sealed off to all unauthorized entry, so there would be no possible way to get in without being invited unless you had something that could tunnel through several layers of twisted space.