Magic Secateurs - What is their function?

[zsandmann]

Ok so I used the magic secateurs to kill the tangle foot but they must do more. See below:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mod Ash

 

 

 

Jagex Mod

 

 

 

27 Feb 2006 18:05

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah, I'd probably better not give away any details, but do keep hold of the enchanted secateurs. Especially when you're harvesting things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SO far I have been unable to prove or disprove any affect they may have, post your trials here for comparison.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Level 59 Farming:

 

 

 

NO secs: Kwarm - Super Compost - 10

 

 

 

weilded: Kwarm - Super Compost - 6

 

 

 

inventory: Kwarm - Super Compost - 7

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Results: No visible pattern

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Limpwurts always yield 3 regardless of +/- secs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Corn also shows no pattern.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next test will be bushes. Secs are usually for trees and bushes anyways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Z

[cyco]

Probably deals with Part 2... They probably lied about it helping you harvest or forgot to enter the code for it to work.

[zsandmann]

I doubt they would lie about it. I think they will be kinda like the blessed wrench for the Rum Deal quest. If it's in your inventory you collect X extra items, or if you plant a seed with it in your inventory the plant yields X extra.

[LordSoultar]

Perhaps is affect how much exp you get for harvesting or planting?

[cyco]

I doubt they would lie about it. I think they will be kinda like the blessed wrench for the Rum Deal quest. If it's in your inventory you collect X extra items, or if you plant a seed with it in your inventory the plant yields X extra.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe, although I think wrench has a setting, but your test are proving yourself wrong because there is no diffrence in the patterns. Maybe look at the exp like LordSoultar said.

[zsandmann]

That is a valid possibility. Anyone wanna test that theory while I test the first?

[cyco]

Well when your switching from using the wrench or not just record your xp from each thing you pick.

[I_RexxKill_I]

just use em to pk apparently they 1 hit everything in site

[gonzlar]

Too bad they dont have a special attack like "Detangle" :D

[NukeMarine]

Well, as luck would have it I've been tracking my xp and yield from farming allotments and herbs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been doing only watermelons and snapdragon with 5 rounds done with cadatine. All with supercompost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, for 25 rounds (262.5k total xp) I've averaged 7.6 cadatines (3 out of 20 died), 6.9 snapdragons (6 out of 80 died) and 14.1 watermelons (none died) per plot. That's from levels 66 to 70 farming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've done two rounds (28.9k total xp) while WIELDING the magic secateur. So far I'm averaging 7.4 snapdragons and 19.6 watermelons per plot. That's at level 70.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS: this is better than the 2 rounds I did at level 70 without the secateurs.

[jessy87]

Well, as luck would have it I've been tracking my xp and yield from farming allotments and herbs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been doing only watermelons and snapdragon with 5 rounds done with cadatine. All with supercompost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, for 25 rounds (262.5k total xp) I've averaged 7.6 cadatines (3 out of 20 died), 6.9 snapdragons (6 out of 80 died) and 14.1 watermelons (none died) per plot. That's from levels 66 to 70 farming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've done two rounds (28.9k total xp) while WIELDING the magic secateur. So far I'm averaging 7.4 snapdragons and 19.6 watermelons per plot. That's at level 70.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS: this is better than the 2 rounds I did at level 70 without the secateurs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well farming is all luck, but your basis is showing a slight improvement and seems somewhat believeable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets hope we get some confirmation from jagex tho

[zsandmann]

Ok I see no increase in xp, Ive tried herbs, alottments, flowers, and bushes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If it's changing your yield then its miniscule cause I am averaging statistically insignificant differences between them. Maybe we do have to wait for Part II.

[trunksrs]

Just don't destroy it. It says u can get a new one from the necromancer, so I went ahead and destroyed mine. Then when I read this, I decided to try and add some of my own research, so I went to get mine back, and the necromancer is charging 40k.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm gunna see if my Jedi mind trick ring works on him, and if the nature spirit will make me a new set.

[bflat0]

You all make the assumption it will magically yield overwehlming results...

 

 

 

reality is it's most likely equivalent to a wealth ring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest when farming I never take secatuers with me anyway... you only need them to prune trees with.

[hohto]

Well, as luck would have it I've been tracking my xp and yield from farming allotments and herbs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been doing only watermelons and snapdragon with 5 rounds done with cadatine. All with supercompost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, for 25 rounds (262.5k total xp) I've averaged 7.6 cadatines (3 out of 20 died), 6.9 snapdragons (6 out of 80 died) and 14.1 watermelons (none died) per plot. That's from levels 66 to 70 farming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've done two rounds (28.9k total xp) while WIELDING the magic secateur. So far I'm averaging 7.4 snapdragons and 19.6 watermelons per plot. That's at level 70.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS: this is better than the 2 rounds I did at level 70 without the secateurs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I noticed the same, when wielding them I seem to need banking more often than when I'm not wielding them. Haven't really tested do they help (should do at least 20 rounds to be sure), but gonna wield them while harvesting until there's some better theory how do they work.

[silver24-7]

off topic but i was just wondering if its true that these secateurs 1 hitted anything u were fighting ?

 

 

 

That wouldve owned vs: KQ CE or just pking 1337 st00f :) =0

[Lighs]

off topic but i was just wondering if its true that these secateurs 1 hitted anything u were fighting ?

 

 

 

That wouldve owned vs: KQ CE or just pking 1337 st00f :) =0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, they don't one-hit the Tanglefoot during the quest...

[cyco]

off topic but i was just wondering if its true that these secateurs 1 hitted anything u were fighting ?

 

 

 

That wouldve owned vs: KQ CE or just pking 1337 st00f :) =0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm surprised you even asked that silver, I thought after at least 200 Post people stopped becoming newbs.

[Birdd]

Yes, I have the same question... and just because someone is unaware of what a new item does does not in fact make them a "newb"

[seekad]

for the 1 hit subject, their was a bug were if you kept it weilded after you killed tanglefoot (sp?) you could 1 hit foes, I only completed the quest yesterday night and tried to see if it was fixed and it was, I couldnt 1 hit an imp with em :P

[NukeMarine]

I'm guessing that a better farming level gave you better damage against tangle foots. That had to be removed quickly as it worked against all monsters and looks like you got insane damage from it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Too bad, I'd like to see more plant based monsters (moss giants, he he) we could use these secateurs on. Maybe Jagex will tweak it and put it back in the game, higher the farming, higher the damage.

[zsandmann]

Ah now thats an idea, I really hate to sound like Pokemon but a plant based weapon should kill plant monsters more quickly IE Tanglefoot, Moss Giant, Strange Plant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the farming use of the new secs,

 

 

 

When I harvest alottments plants, I am banking more when I have them. I havent been counting but I guess I should.

[Gugge]

I noticed the same as others already posted, when wielding it I seem to have larger strawberry and sweetcorn crops, thats the only ones I tried so far, and I didnt keep an exact record.

[oddfaery2]

no offense, but if you only did 3 crops, you can't really say there's significant evidence about whether or not they have an effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To make a good analysis, you'd need at least 20-30 tests with similar settings (e.g. same type of crop, same type of compost, etc).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have been doing herbs in the midst of my prayer efforts, and here's what I've come up with while using the secateurs (I only use 3 plots):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

9

 

 

 

6

 

 

 

7

 

 

 

Watermelons: 19

 

 

 

5 (no compost)

 

 

 

5

 

 

 

X (dead)

 

 

 

7

 

 

 

11

 

 

 

8

 

 

 

6

 

 

 

8

 

 

 

5

 

 

 

- (diseased, left for next run)

 

 

 

7

 

 

 

5

 

 

 

7

 

 

 

7

 

 

 

6

 

 

 

8

 

 

 

6

 

 

 

watermelons: 10

 

 

 

5

 

 

 

8

 

 

 

9

 

 

 

7

 

 

 

8

 

 

 

6

 

 

 

5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ruling out the crop where I forgot compost (or lag kept my click from working... ****), this gives me an average of 6.9 herbs per plot while using secateurs.

[gspbeetle]

does anyone got other loot other than leaves out of the 2 kinds of baby tanglefoot? they are a pain to kill, but yet drop nothing good... may be they drop d axe?