Okay...I was wrong, but the "bug" still works.

[Barihawk]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you please stop being close-minded and accept that you needed an elemental shield? If you remember the update when they were released you should remember it said you shouldn't venture down unless you have an elemental shield.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, and the game also says to not fight dragons without a fire breath shield, yet you can.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dragons are not slayer monsters. They follow a different set of rules. Not to mention, you have potions that keep you moderately safe from the fire breath. If you want to be fully immune to fire breath, you still have to wear a fire shield and use the potion. (This strategem doesnt even always work against special monsters like the King Black Dragon).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Slayer monsters are different. There is no elemental potion. Like all slayer monsters, these require tactics and strong equipment to keep you safe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So stop comparing them to Dragons...its completely different (reasons being monster differences and the fact that there is no potion for Wyverns).

[jessy87]

 

 

 

EDIT: OKAY, now before another one of you MORONS post, YOU DID NOT NEED AN ELEMENTAL SHIELD THE FIRST WEEK THAT THESE WERE OUT! The dangerous breath that was used was considered to be ranged attack, just like a dragon's breath is considered magic. And FYI you can fight dragons just fine without a fire breath shield. All you need is magic prayer and anti fire pot. Believe me, I've dharoked them enough.

 

 

 

What I am angry about is all these stupid hidden "bug fixes" that Jagex doesn't tell us about and gets us killed. I am sure a few of you remember my dharok death at bloodvelds due to a wondering Aberrant Specter...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i believe it was said, pray magic helped cut down their deadliness, i went their without the elemental shield and, i didnt try either prayers and got hit 49 without the shield.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

here how i see it, you got mad because you were gonna abuse a bug and died because you were attempting to abuse again, then you come here and rant and get angry that we point out YOUR mistake, its YOUR MISTAKE not jagex's

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you seriously need to not take this so seriously, your gettin upset because people told you stuff that was in the manual thinking you didnt know, they were trying to help and correct your mistake.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

whether it worked the first week who cares, you died get over it, leesters lost alot more when he died.

[oddfaery2]

It still boils my broccoli to know that they didn't announce it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only reason you have to be angry they didn't announce it is if you were (technically) abusing a bug. If you'd been fighting them with the elemental shield like the manual says is necessary, then you would've never had this problem. Surely by now you had to have seen that the shield is required for them... did you NOT expect it to get fixed at SOME point?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh...and if this WAS a bug...DONT THEY TEST THINGS?! I mean *, I was only there about 30 minutes before I realized how to do this technique. If this was indeed considered a bug, it should've been handled BEFORE release.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

learned the technique? Sounds like you knew it was a bug when you went to try it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for testing... have you ever coded before? With as many variables as Jagex has, it is VERY likely that at least one possible combination gets overlooked. They do test their releases beforehand, and obviously they take care of most the problems before they come out. But many updates will have some minor bug (sometimes major) in them that they need to fix. It's just like when a level 3 could wield dragon axe. I'm sure they were testing against much more serious bugs such as how hard it hits, how much the special drains, how fast it cuts, etc as opposed to is some level 3 going to try to wield it. That's a mistake that shouldn't have happened, so it got overlooked in testing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

point being, as long as these have been out, you should've at least known the shield was supposed to be a requirement. Even if you just got the appropriate slayer level, it's pretty standard for players to check what random item they need before they ever go. And if you were trying to find a "technique" that made you not need the shield, you had what was coming.

[getoutofit]

Okay...another terrible stoke of luck for Mr. Myweponsgood.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, I got bored just now and decided "Hey, no one wears those granite legs anymore...I wanna go get me a pair." So, I take out my full Verac set and venture down to the cave. Typically, the only attacks they used were ranged and melee. I would pray against range and then the Verac would protect decently from the melee. Well, to my surprise, they changed the ranged classified attack to magic. I get about halfway through killing one, then get hit for a 38 and I'm like :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Needless to say, I was frozen. Not long after this, I met my demise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think this is STUPID. Why wouldn't they say that the Wyverns were updated? This is even more of a reason for people to not kill them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: OKAY, now before another one of you MORONS post, YOU DID NOT NEED AN ELEMENTAL SHIELD THE FIRST WEEK THAT THESE WERE OUT! The dangerous breath that was used was considered to be ranged attack, just like a dragon's breath is considered magic. And FYI you can fight dragons just fine without a fire breath shield. All you need is magic prayer and anti fire pot. Believe me, I've dharoked them enough.

 

 

 

What I am angry about is all these stupid hidden "bug fixes" that Jagex doesn't tell us about and gets us killed. I am sure a few of you remember my dharok death at bloodvelds due to a wondering Aberrant Specter...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You did need a elemental shield,and you should of been more careful

[Satenza]

Wh did you take out a verac set to fight the wyvens? Full rune + dragon scimmy would have been more than adequate. And you would have saved 6 M. Lucky your friend was there to collect it for you.

[jessy87]

Wh did you take out a verac set to fight the wyvens? Full rune + dragon scimmy would have been more than adequate. And you would have saved 6 M. Lucky your friend was there to collect it for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

who cares, if he got his stuff back why is he complaining...its like hes complain-warning us...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

he got his stuff back, but 330k down the drain rite... so um thats a cheap lesson to learn compared to some people at dag kings and kq and stuff, i know i saw a guy die from walaski's and lose obby cape. then tons of people were dying on world 2 at dag kings, like axe man jack i thought he lost a whip their + other stuff. be grateful you didnt lose it all.

[bedman]

 

I mentioned Oergg because he is my friend, and he is the only person I went with. The fact that you find him "famous" is irrelevant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, the game also says that you need an anti-fire shield to fight dragons. However, if you use protect from magic and anti-fire pots, you do not need the shield, is THIS bug abuse?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The elemental shield is NOT listed in the slayer equipment page. Therefore, it is not the same as the other "required" equipments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You did not NEED an elemental shield to fight Wyverns, just like you do not NEED a fire shield to fight dragons. The shield is not in the official slayer equipment guide (click on the slayer skill), so it should not work the same way. I would not think of this as a bug, since there is the dragon thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the Wyvern happens to not use its ice attack on you, you don't even need the shield. It is not comparable to other slayer equipment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you please stop being close-minded and accept that you needed an elemental shield? If you remember the update when they were released you should remember it said you shouldn't venture down unless you have an elemental shield.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with mywepons...

[Barihawk]

You agree that bug abuse is justified, and it's more the companies fault for having the bug than it is the user for exploiting it?

[Myweponsg00d]

Okay...I'll try to explain this one more time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, I did NOT have a friend there to pick up my stuff...nor did I even say that anywhere...or anything like that.... :?: :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, let me explain how I found this combination that worked. First trip I took to the wyverns, I wore monk robes, just to check out the place. Then, I saw they were very similar to dragons, so I took out my dragon hides (magic defense) and intended on using protect from melee. However, I noticed I was getting hit very much still. Then, I got my first granite leg drop. I put them on, and I immediately noticed a change. It was the range defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, I made a breakthrough, the "breath" was ranged based. On my third trip back, I wore full torags and used melee prayer, and I did VERY well that time. So then I got the idea. Since this breath is ranged based, I wonder if protect from range works against it. It did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, lets take a moment and look at the dragons throught Runescape. What are they like? First things first, you need an anti-fire shield right? No...not quite. The breath is magic based, and the attacks are melee based. If you use protection from magic, you do not experience the devastating hits from the fire breath. Oddfarey, do you consider people who use magic prayer against dragons to be bug abusers? Probably not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How is this different from the Wyverns? Just because it is a slayer monster? Let me remind you again, if you would HAPPEN to be lucky enough to not have them use any ice breath, you do NOT need the shield to kill them. This is the exact same thing with dragons. I have seen plenty of noobs get lucky enough to not experience one singe fire-breath. If the Wyvern does not use ice breath, you could easily kill it without an elemental shield.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In MY mind, this actually separates it further from the rest of the monsters. Can you kill any of the other monsters without the needed equipment? NO. Not even if you get extremely lucky.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If ranged prayer at the Wyverns would be bug abuse, then magic prayer against dragons is bug abuse.

[Barihawk]

I'll try to explain this one more time. Summed up in small words.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ANTI DRAGON FIRE POTION!!!!!!1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LACK OF ANTIICE POTION!!!!1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When it attacked with range, that was a bug. They fixed that. Sorry.

[Wyvern53]

First of all, since I'm not a member, I can't agree or disagree that the Wyvern's attack is ranged based. Second, my friend went down there first thing when it came out, but he forgot to read about the Elemental Shield. So, he got owned. He tried again, but this time with less things. Owned. He tried 4 more times. Owned, owned, owned, owned. Then I told him he needed an Elemental Shield. he first noticed a huge difference between the damage he was getting hit at. But, there must now be a bug, because he always goes down there with an Elemental Shield, but he sees people with just Rune Kites and Obsidian Shields abusing a bug. Added, in the Slayer manual, it tewlls you must have an Elemental Shield or you'll have a quick ticket to Lumbridge.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So for now, I have no sympathy for you. You abused a bug, you payed for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And last but not least, you need an Anti-Dragon Shield to kill a dragon. But the only way you could kill one without it is by poisoning it and taking cover. Then repoisoning it and waiting. Hell, maybe even throw in a special. But yet again, fight it without cover and without a shield, you're a dead person.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

POWER TO THE WYVERNS!!!!!! POWER TO THE WYVERNS!!!!!

[Myweponsg00d]

Okay, so should I have to look on that bugfix screen every single day to make sure things that I consider normal aren't bugs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hurt Jagex to announce bug "fixes" that can be life threatening.

[Barihawk]

Yes, you should look at that screen, it can save your avatar's life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is no excuse. The manual says you need the shield, don't push the manual.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dragons have nice extra items to keep you save, Wyverns do not.

[stanford]

How about...we don't need warning and no one cares about your death?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure no one would have been affected by this "Unanounced update" if you hadn't posted here. Actually, i'm sure no one would have issues with this if they followed the slayer guide and wore an elemental shield. I'm sure that it was a painful death, but people have more tragic deaths. :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We don't need warning from you because even the "slowest" players bring elemental shields down there because everyone knows they beat the stuffing out of you without it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry for flaming.

[gonzlar]

Okay...another terrible stoke of luck for Mr. Myweponsgood.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, I got bored just now and decided "Hey, no one wears those granite legs anymore...I wanna go get me a pair." So, I take out my full Verac set and venture down to the cave. Typically, the only attacks they used were ranged and melee. I would pray against range and then the Verac would protect decently from the melee. Well, to my surprise, they changed the ranged classified attack to magic. I get about halfway through killing one, then get hit for a 38 and I'm like :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Needless to say, I was frozen. Not long after this, I met my demise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think this is STUPID. Why wouldn't they say that the Wyverns were updated? This is even more of a reason for people to not kill them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: OKAY, now before another one of you MORONS post, YOU DID NOT NEED AN ELEMENTAL SHIELD THE FIRST WEEK THAT THESE WERE OUT! The dangerous breath that was used was considered to be ranged attack, just like a dragon's breath is considered magic. And FYI you can fight dragons just fine without a fire breath shield. All you need is magic prayer and anti fire pot. Believe me, I've dharoked them enough.

 

 

 

What I am angry about is all these stupid hidden "bug fixes" that Jagex doesn't tell us about and gets us killed. I am sure a few of you remember my dharok death at bloodvelds due to a wondering Aberrant Specter...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Excuse me... but i don't believe us "morons" just lost full veracs's so i would just like to say... hahahahahaha nyanananana!

[123Yourgone]

Some of you need to stop listening to the sound of your own voice and actually read what he is saying.

 

 

 

Killing a dragon without pots is not bug abuse.

 

 

 

I can do it with just prot mage and NO pot or shield.

 

 

 

QUICK BETTER REPORT MY BUG ABUSE!

 

 

 

Grow up, seems like tip it gets more and more sarcastic know it all jerks every day.

[Nightryder3]

wear ele sheild

[jessy87]

Okay, so should I have to look on that bugfix screen every single day to make sure things that I consider normal aren't bugs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hurt Jagex to announce bug "fixes" that can be life threatening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you keep saying its life threatening bug fix, when in fact these are next to some of the deadliest monsters in the game already.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

let me say, i dont even believe you that the ranged prayer worked the first week.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i meleed the with the ele shield, wow i still almost died. with karils armor on and warrior helm + rune boots and gauntles

[oddfaery2]

Some of you need to stop listening to the sound of your own voice and actually read what he is saying.

 

 

 

Killing a dragon without pots is not bug abuse.

 

 

 

I can do it with just prot mage and NO pot or shield.

 

 

 

QUICK BETTER REPORT MY BUG ABUSE!

 

 

 

Grow up, seems like tip it gets more and more sarcastic know it all jerks every day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

who said killing dragons in any manner was bug abuse? I overlooked it I guess. Only thing I saw was his analogy to dragon and wyverns.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problem with this analogy is that dragons and wyverns are completely different creatures. Anybody can fight a dragon, no slayer level or specific items are said to be REQUIRED to do so. Dragonfire shields are only a strong suggestion... and only necessary if you intend to fight dragons for a long period of time. (I'd love to see how many iron dragons you kill without an antifire shield)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some slayer monsters, UNLIKE dragons, have REQUIRED items in order to fight or kill them. Obviously the shield is meant to be required if it is on the list, so I don't see how this thread is any different than the people complaining when Jagex fixed the guthix rest bug while they were solo-ing the KQ with it. If the shield is on the required items list, you should've been playing as if the bug didn't exist.

[Storm]

Whatta hell is the problem?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wyverns need to be fought with the elemental shield. Even then they are dangerous. Fighting wyverns without the elemental shield is moronic.

[Guest]

You always needed elemental shield man sorry about your luck... People were selling those shields for like 100k each when wyvers came out.

[Tommy213]

Deep in the dungeon where the Blurite glows...

 

 

 

Thurgo stumbled and fell down a hole he had never seen before... and awoke a terrifying creature of bone and ice. At first glance he thought them to be dragons... but when he tried an anti-dragon shield and narrowly escaped with major frostbite, he knew that they were not.

 

 

 

These Wyverns will give a chilly reception to any who dare enter the cave, so youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢d best equip yourself with some elemental protection.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yep you needed an elemental sheild from when they was released

[gspbeetle]

it seems that almost everyone is going against Myweponsg00d, i cant see any reason for it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

his main point is hoping jagex to made every minor updated listed, which there is no sense we should disagree... ranting? no, framing? very yes!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) he is not abusing any bug, he still need that slayer level to hit the wyvern, slayer monster are just monsters that need a particular slayer level to kill them...

 

 

 

2) slayer equipment is not a necessary for killing the monster but a supplement that helps your slaying

 

 

 

3) protection prayer is made to dodge attacks, not any bug abusing

 

 

 

4) killing a kalphite queen with full veracs or using a safe spot at any monster is all bug abusing in that sense, we are should be banned

[Myweponsg00d]

 

Some of you need to stop listening to the sound of your own voice and actually read what he is saying.

 

 

 

Killing a dragon without pots is not bug abuse.

 

 

 

I can do it with just prot mage and NO pot or shield.

 

 

 

QUICK BETTER REPORT MY BUG ABUSE!

 

 

 

Grow up, seems like tip it gets more and more sarcastic know it all jerks every day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

who said killing dragons in any manner was bug abuse? I overlooked it I guess. Only thing I saw was his analogy to dragon and wyverns.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problem with this analogy is that dragons and wyverns are completely different creatures. Anybody can fight a dragon, no slayer level or specific items are said to be REQUIRED to do so. Dragonfire shields are only a strong suggestion... and only necessary if you intend to fight dragons for a long period of time. (I'd love to see how many iron dragons you kill without an antifire shield)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some slayer monsters, UNLIKE dragons, have REQUIRED items in order to fight or kill them. Obviously the shield is meant to be required if it is on the list, so I don't see how this thread is any different than the people complaining when Jagex fixed the guthix rest bug while they were solo-ing the KQ with it. If the shield is on the required items list, you should've been playing as if the bug didn't exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not completely true at all. First of all...I already adressed this...but I guess I have to say it again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the Wyvern would happen to not use any ice breath, you could easily kill it. Regardless as to if you were wearing a shield or not. However, without the proper equipment for other monsters, you cannot kill them. Or, in most cases, you cannot even damage them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So many people are losing the meaning of this post. I'm not saying it SHOULDNT be this way, I'm saying they should give us a heads up on these sorts of updates. I also wish that 90% of the people would bother reading the entire thread before posting. Come on, its not even 5 pages yet...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This would be like them all of a sudden making protection prayers completely useless at Barrows and saying it was a "bug" in the first place that you could use prayer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I saw what type of damage the ice attack used, and I used the appropriate protection prayer for it, how in the world is THAT bug abuse? Thats like saying using a magic prayer at any dragons is bug abuse...or prayer switching on JAd is bug abuse.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line, I didn't think it was a bug, they didn't make an announcement that they changed it, and I died. All I'm saying is that they need to make more public bug announcements, especially those that can potentially kill someone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, I've never had to report a bug before, so I had no clue about that screen that listed all the known bugs. WHen did they announce this? How are we supposed to know about it if we've never found a bug before? I guess I'll start checking this screen more frequently...but it's such a stupid inconvenience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You all act like I'm just here to complain about my death...for the love of Mike, I'm just trying to warn anyone who happened to discover the same thing with Wyverns. I wouldn't be angry if I died anywhere in the game and lost everything I had. I'm just getting very annoyed with Jagex's customer support.

[stanford]

 

 

Some of you need to stop listening to the sound of your own voice and actually read what he is saying.

 

 

 

Killing a dragon without pots is not bug abuse.

 

 

 

I can do it with just prot mage and NO pot or shield.

 

 

 

QUICK BETTER REPORT MY BUG ABUSE!

 

 

 

Grow up, seems like tip it gets more and more sarcastic know it all jerks every day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

who said killing dragons in any manner was bug abuse? I overlooked it I guess. Only thing I saw was his analogy to dragon and wyverns.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problem with this analogy is that dragons and wyverns are completely different creatures. Anybody can fight a dragon, no slayer level or specific items are said to be REQUIRED to do so. Dragonfire shields are only a strong suggestion... and only necessary if you intend to fight dragons for a long period of time. (I'd love to see how many iron dragons you kill without an antifire shield)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some slayer monsters, UNLIKE dragons, have REQUIRED items in order to fight or kill them. Obviously the shield is meant to be required if it is on the list, so I don't see how this thread is any different than the people complaining when Jagex fixed the guthix rest bug while they were solo-ing the KQ with it. If the shield is on the required items list, you should've been playing as if the bug didn't exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not completely true at all. First of all...I already adressed this...but I guess I have to say it again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the Wyvern would happen to not use any ice breath, you could easily kill it. Regardless as to if you were wearing a shield or not. However, without the proper equipment for other monsters, you cannot kill them. Or, in most cases, you cannot even damage them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So many people are losing the meaning of this post. I'm not saying it SHOULDNT be this way, I'm saying they should give us a heads up on these sorts of updates. I also wish that 90% of the people would bother reading the entire thread before posting. Come on, its not even 5 pages yet...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This would be like them all of a sudden making protection prayers completely useless at Barrows and saying it was a "bug" in the first place that you could use prayer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I saw what type of damage the ice attack used, and I used the appropriate protection prayer for it, how in the world is THAT bug abuse? Thats like saying using a magic prayer at any dragons is bug abuse...or prayer switching on JAd is bug abuse.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line, I didn't think it was a bug, they didn't make an announcement that they changed it, and I died. All I'm saying is that they need to make more public bug announcements, especially those that can potentially kill someone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, I've never had to report a bug before, so I had no clue about that screen that listed all the known bugs. WHen did they announce this? How are we supposed to know about it if we've never found a bug before? I guess I'll start checking this screen more frequently...but it's such a stupid inconvenience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You all act like I'm just here to complain about my death...for the love of Mike, I'm just trying to warn anyone who happened to discover the same thing with Wyverns. I wouldn't be angry if I died anywhere in the game and lost everything I had. I'm just getting very annoyed with Jagex's customer support.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you read my last post on this thread you would understand that we do not need warning because only an idiot would go solo at the Skeletal Wyverns without an elemental shield. Whether you did or not isn't the purpose of this thread correct?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We don't need your warning. When that new update comes, let us hope that this seemingly pointless thread will die.