Raise the GP Cap on P2P to 100 Bil

[TheSlayer]

You don't need that much money. I guess you'd just have to invest in phats or something, that will RAISE in price. Shame...

[JordanPhio]

2100M is a alot, but if your a merchant, you've got to keep making money, because thats what you do. Its when that becomes a problem.

 

 

 

Its like banks, they don't whipe off debts that you owe because of all the interest your getting off them and they want to make more and more money. Kinda the same thing, I think.

 

 

 

Grats to all that have reached 2100M. Thats preety cool, and good luck.

[rct101]

You CAN NOT raise the GP cap, 2147483647 is the max integer java allows in one string, you just can't do it

[tuhdude]

no...what YOU should do is get a life instead of spending all your time on a game to make fake pixel money. Maybe the fact that Jagex didnt except nubs to spend time trying to just make money and destroy the whole point of the game... wow... and so...your making this post to say basically " oh i have more then 2100m in my bank, im sooooo cool". Money is nothing in RS...only skills....which u dont have so....just sit and build up ur pixels while ur real life around u crumbles :roll:

now this guy knows what he's talking about. +1

[ghostoker]

I don't know if this has been said already, but i'm not going to read 16 pages to find out, so...

 

 

 

I think the main reason many players have in excess of 2100m is because of the exponentially increasing prices of rare items.

 

 

 

Since the number of rares is decreasing and the number of players wanting rares is increasing, their prices are only going to go up and up.

 

 

 

JaGeX couldn't just keep lifting the gp cap to keep up with this, it would be stupid.

 

 

 

And apparantly the reason for the cap is because of the limitations of the language the game is coded in.

[Bauke]

I think there shouldn't be a gp cap. There's nothing wrong with making more money. If Jagex thinks it's bad for the economy they should do something about it other than having a gp cap (construction is a good example of what to do)

 

The main reason seems that it's not possible to create a bigger number. But surely there should be a way to get around this. I'm sure they can come up with an inventive idea to get rid of the cap. Perhaps just more piles of money, lol.

[Kill_Thomas9]

You CAN NOT raise the GP cap, 2147483647 is the max integer java allows in one string, you just can't do it

would you people read the posts on the last page before posting???? You look like idiots

[limdogs]

Would it carry over into making another bank slot or would the money simply dissapear? On classic 10mil used to be the limit for one inv slot then u had to use another bank space. Im sure this has been answered somewhere so if u could just point out the page ill read it.

 

 

 

Edit: I found it. negative gp? ouch. btw we do have another currency. Its called tokkul, but since its not tradable its worthless.

[rct101]

You CAN NOT raise the GP cap, 2147483647 is the max integer java allows in one string, you just can't do it

would you people read the posts on the last page before posting???? You look like idiots

 

 

 

err...like i'm going to read over 300 post :-s

[Cdub]

I can see how the GP cap could be problematic. And I honestly don't see why Jagex doesn't introduce a 100GP or 1,000GP coin into the game. It really does seem like a simple solution. Perhaps it would be too big of an overhaul, to introduce another piece of currency into such a developed economy. But if the Jagex staff can devise a solution to this problem, a solution that doesn't upset the economy, than I'm all for it.

 

 

 

no...what YOU should do is get a life instead of spending all your time on a game to make fake pixel money. Maybe the fact that Jagex didnt except nubs to spend time trying to just make money and destroy the whole point of the game... wow... and so...your making this post to say basically " oh i have more then 2100m in my bank, im sooooo cool". Money is nothing in RS...only skills....which u dont have so....just sit and build up ur pixels while ur real life around u crumbles :roll:

now this guy knows what he's talking about. +1

 

 

 

He did not create this topic to brag about the amount of money he has. He was putting forth the problem to the Tip.It community, and seeking intelligent suggestions/discussion. However, I do NOT believe he wished to attract flaming and jealousy-spawned-insults. I don't want to sound mean, but you're being a brat, champ. This is an serious problem that requires a serious solution.

 

 

 

Although, if anyone DOES have 2.1B, I'm sure they could find something to spend that money on.

 

 

 

Don't expect a change here anytime soon. I read a few people here know their computer science, and it would indeed take a big amount of work. Plus, I think it would slow down game time if you're planning on switching GP from 32-64 Bit.

[r2-pleasent]

You don't need that much money. I guess you'd just have to invest in phats or something, that will RAISE in price. Shame...

 

 

 

You're completely missing the point of my post. The cap has nothing to do with what a player "needs". Just because there are better investments than pure GP does not justify the extreme flaws in the system. When I created this thread just over 4 months ago, the highest priced item in Runescape was roughly 200 Mil. Today, Crackers are selling for around 800 Mil. So, what happens in another 4 months? The problem is only worsening, and Jagex needs to correct it fast.

 

 

 

Many players are not educated on this GP cap, and they will lose the fortunes they've spent countless hours accumulating. To say that a rich player is wasting his time, and should instead be skilling, is completely ridiculous. This is a game, and so long as you are abiding by the rules, you are free to do whatever you please. Try not to let your jealousy run wild, and think before you post. I didn't create this post to brag about my accumulations; 2100M really isn't that big a deal anymore.

[TheSlayer]

You don't need that much money. I guess you'd just have to invest in phats or something, that will RAISE in price. Shame...

 

 

 

You're completely missing the point of my post. The cap has nothing to do with what a player "needs". Just because there are better investments than pure GP does not justify the extreme flaws in the system. When I created this thread just over 4 months ago, the highest priced item in Runescape was roughly 200 Mil. Today, Crackers are selling for around 800 Mil. So, what happens in another 4 months? The problem is only worsening, and Jagex needs to correct it fast.

 

 

 

Many players are not educated on this GP cap, and they will lose the fortunes they've spent countless hours accumulating. To say that a rich player is wasting his time, and should instead be skilling, is completely ridiculous. This is a game, and so long as you are abiding by the rules, you are free to do whatever you please. Try not to let your jealousy run wild, and think before you post. I didn't create this post to brag about my accumulations; 2100M really isn't that big a deal anymore.

 

 

 

I understand your point. I don't envy those who sit online in Falador world 2 all day and merchant to make pixel cash and be "rich."

 

 

 

And...

 

You CAN NOT raise the GP cap, 2147483647 is the max integer java allows in one string, you just can't do it

[Krieger99]

2100M is a freakishly insane amount to me. Hell, even 100M is something that seems far off to me. I never should have sold that santa hat and green mask when they were worth 200K and 550K respectively. Oh well, I did and it's something I regret a lot.

 

 

 

But what's in the past is in the past, and it's just a game and it doesn't matter a whole lot to me.

[paulhartman]

don't know if this has been said already, but i'm not going to read 16 pages to find out, so...

 

 

 

I think the main reason many players have in excess of 2100m is because of the exponentially increasing prices of rare items.

 

 

 

Since the number of rares is decreasing and the number of players wanting rares is increasing, their prices are only going to go up and up.

 

 

 

JaGeX couldn't just keep lifting the gp cap to keep up with this, it would be stupid.

 

 

 

I believe it to be the other way around. The price of rares is going up because of people moving money out of cash, because of the cap, and buying rares ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ pushing up their prices. This is a tragedy. I would personally be willing to pay $25 a month for membership to fund an increase in the money cap. This is how sorry I feel for those unfortunate few who are precluded from adding more money to their bank. The horror.

 

:( :-w :wink: :boohoo:

[Infinite_Destiny]

There's people starving in Africa and Ethiopia. Why don't you sell your RS cash for RL cash, send the RL cash to starving families, and gain RL respect instead of a high number of coins on a computer game.

[bedman]

First of all: there are a lot of ignorant people here...

 

 

 

1) R2 ISNT BRAGGING about his money. There are now quite a lot of people with 2.1B + in net value (because of the rise in rares mostly).

 

 

 

2) "Just buy a couple for blue phats" and you are settled ISNT a solution. What if blue phats are MORE than 2.1B??? Thats the point that R2 is trying to make. The price of rares are getting too close to the cap. One unthoughtfull trade and you could exceed it without even noticing at first.

 

 

 

3) I dont believe noobs quit because they hear they cant get more than 2.1B. When i was a noob (back in rs1 though) i couldnt imagine having more than 10k. Really.

 

 

 

4) Yes, THERE IS A CAP! Its just over 2.1B. This cap cant be programmed to be bigger. No item can have a larger stack than this. But there are plenty of other solutions to solve this problem. Platinum pieces that are worth 1000gp a piece (can be traded to an npc back and forth: 1 piece = 1000 gp (always)) for instance. Even if the inflation would go on, 2100B is a bit too far away no? (and IF, IF there comes a time where people will have this amount, then introduce "uber" pieces that are 1 000 000 gp a piece).

 

 

 

5) Everyone can play the game how he wants. If his goal is to gather as much money as possible, let him be. Its his own decision to "waste" countless time at fally world 2. And no, he ISNT DESTROYING THE ECONOMY. MERCHANTS ARENT DESTROYING THE ECONOMY FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!

 

The increase in rare prices is just a logical consequence of the inflation and the increase in players.

 

On top of that (assume that the increase of rares is all of the merchants fault), whats the problem with rares rising? That you cant afford it? Haha, poor you, you should have been smarter and merchanted/staked yourself or bought one when they were cheap...

 

 

 

Let me tell you this: rares are actually HELPING the economy. Imagine that there was nothing to spend your 100s of millions to (if you were a succesfull merchant). What would you do? Yes, you would buy an insane amount of raw materials (and keep those or get some easy 99's).

 

What would happen to the prices of those raw materials? They would shoot up. Yes, THAT would destroy the economy cause a normal skiller (like you and me) wont be able to buy these raw materials anymore.

 

 

 

Ow yeah, I own a purple phat, and thats it.

 

 

 

I hope this cleared some things up...

[Manuvdv]

There's people starving in Africa and Ethiopia. Why don't you sell your RS cash for RL cash, send the RL cash to starving families, and gain RL respect instead of a high number of coins on a computer game.

 

 

 

Why are you spending your time on a computer game related forum? Go and help those poor people in Africa and Ethiopia.

 

 

 

I've seen it myself how much cash merchanters (and stakers *points at Cursed You*) can make, and I totally agree with you, r2. As you said yourself a few posts ago, crackers are being sold for about 800M, phat sets are even more, prices are still rising, and the money cap stays.. the same. Just insane if you ask me, Jagex should increase the cap. That's my point of view.

[Infinite_Destiny]

There's people starving in Africa and Ethiopia. Why don't you sell your RS cash for RL cash, send the RL cash to starving families, and gain RL respect instead of a high number of coins on a computer game.

 

 

 

Why are you spending your time on a computer game related forum? Go and help those poor people in Africa and Ethiopia.

 

 

 

I've seen it myself how much cash merchanters (and stakers *points at Cursed You*) can make, and I totally agree with you, r2. As you said yourself a few posts ago, crackers are being sold for about 800M, phat sets are even more, prices are still rising, and the money cap stays.. the same. Just insane if you ask me, Jagex should increase the cap. That's my point of view.

 

For your information I spent 3 weeks of my precious summer in Puerto Rico helping out families, smartass.

 

On Topic: It's been said many times that the cap CANNOT be raised due to java limitations. So please read before you post.

[Manuvdv]

There's people starving in Africa and Ethiopia. Why don't you sell your RS cash for RL cash, send the RL cash to starving families, and gain RL respect instead of a high number of coins on a computer game.

 

 

 

Why are you spending your time on a computer game related forum? Go and help those poor people in Africa and Ethiopia.

 

 

 

I've seen it myself how much cash merchanters (and stakers *points at Cursed You*) can make, and I totally agree with you, r2. As you said yourself a few posts ago, crackers are being sold for about 800M, phat sets are even more, prices are still rising, and the money cap stays.. the same. Just insane if you ask me, Jagex should increase the cap. That's my point of view.

 

For your information I spent 3 weeks of my precious summer in Puerto Rico helping out families, silly person.

 

On Topic: It's been said many times that the cap CANNOT be raised due to java limitations. So please read before you post.

 

 

 

My point was just: don't argue about what to do. If you want to help other people, just do it. If r2 wants to play RS and earn money, let him do it. We all do what we want, don't tell others what to do.

 

 

 

And I'm NOT a silly person. This is probably the first time you hear something about me, don't judge to early.

[darkblade986]

Let me make a suggestion to this that could solve the whole thing...

 

 

 

 

 

According to you guys, increasing the cap would pratically double the memory the game would need to run... Well, what if you only had a set of digits with a max of 5 digits to work like this...

 

 

 

Money is sorted into gp, K and M. I say put a seperate variable that is much smaller than the current one for each of the 3 things. So for example...

 

 

 

960gp

 

var 1 = 960

 

var2 = 0

 

var3 = 0

 

 

 

46,835gp

 

var 1 = 835

 

var2 = 46

 

var3 = 0

 

 

 

140,283gp

 

var1 = 283

 

var2 = 140

 

var3 = 0

 

 

 

1,392,583gp

 

var1 = 583

 

var2 = 392

 

var3 = 1

 

 

 

2,100,000,000gp

 

var1 = 0

 

var2 = 0

 

var3 = 2100

 

 

 

 

 

Compare the space needed for 3 - 4 digit variables to 1 - 10 digit variable. If I have it correctly, that should be a lot less... A 10 bit variable could handle a value of 1,024. So 3 of these should take up a lot less space than a 31 bit variable (As you guys are saying it is). Just make a variable for any gp you have under 1-thousand, a variable for any gp between 1-thousand and 1-million, and a variable for anything above 1-million. Even making a variable for things above 1-billion would probably work if needed.

[TheSlayer]

First of all: there are a lot of ignorant people here...

 

 

 

1) R2 ISNT BRAGGING about his money. There are now quite a lot of people with 2.1B + in net value (because of the rise in rares mostly).

 

 

 

2) "Just buy a couple for blue phats" and you are settled ISNT a solution. What if blue phats are MORE than 2.1B??? Thats the point that R2 is trying to make. The price of rares are getting too close to the cap. One unthoughtfull trade and you could exceed it without even noticing at first.

 

 

 

3) I dont believe noobs quit because they hear they cant get more than 2.1B. When i was a noob (back in rs1 though) i couldnt imagine having more than 10k. Really.

 

 

 

4) Yes, THERE IS A CAP! Its just over 2.1B. This cap cant be programmed to be bigger. No item can have a larger stack than this. But there are plenty of other solutions to solve this problem. Platinum pieces that are worth 1000gp a piece (can be traded to an npc back and forth: 1 piece = 1000 gp (always)) for instance. Even if the inflation would go on, 2100B is a bit too far away no? (and IF, IF there comes a time where people will have this amount, then introduce "uber" pieces that are 1 000 000 gp a piece).

 

 

 

5) Everyone can play the game how he wants. If his goal is to gather as much money as possible, let him be. Its his own decision to "waste" countless time at fally world 2. And no, he ISNT DESTROYING THE ECONOMY. MERCHANTS ARENT DESTROYING THE ECONOMY FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!

 

The increase in rare prices is just a logical consequence of the inflation and the increase in players.

 

On top of that (assume that the increase of rares is all of the merchants fault), whats the problem with rares rising? That you cant afford it? Haha, poor you, you should have been smarter and merchanted/staked yourself or bought one when they were cheap...

 

 

 

Let me tell you this: rares are actually HELPING the economy. Imagine that there was nothing to spend your 100s of millions to (if you were a succesfull merchant). What would you do? Yes, you would buy an insane amount of raw materials (and keep those or get some easy 99's).

 

What would happen to the prices of those raw materials? They would shoot up. Yes, THAT would destroy the economy cause a normal skiller (like you and me) wont be able to buy these raw materials anymore.

 

 

 

Ow yeah, I own a purple phat, and thats it.

 

 

 

I hope this cleared some things up...

 

 

 

1) Ehh.. mabye just a little. I know that that is not his intention.

 

2) You honestly think that Blue Party Hats will rise over 2.1B? Right..

 

3) Of course they don't.

 

4) Decent idea.

 

5) I know. The reason that I posted that comment is because R2 posted..

 

 

 

Try not to let your jealousy run wild, and think before you post.

[joecool280]

what really is the point of having more than 2100 mil,

 

you could buy more than you could ever want/need with it, if i had that much, i would have just stopped ages ago.

 

sure rare prices will probably go above that, but that's not really too much of a problem, when they get that high, you can start using dragon items as currency

 

 

 

I know what id do, buy as many blue phats, masks and other rares as i can and high alc them, keeping 1 for myself, i want the day where there is only 1 phat in existence and it costs 2100mill.... :twisted: I would actully make owning a rare fun mwhahahahaa!!!!

 

 

 

Some unrich guy: "wow, ur the richest guy in rs! U have the only phat!"

 

Joecool280 (me): "yep :P "

 

Some rich guy but not as rich as me: Ill buy

 

*trades*

 

He puts up 2100mill and 500 noted abyssal whips. I decline and say "nfs" and walk away. MWhahahahah!

[Kondor]

only skills....which u dont have so....

 

Not like you should talk. Level 112 with 1500 skill total... pathetic :lol:

 

Look at some of his levels and think again idiot.

 

 

 

And merchanters doesnt really even play the game. They just are ruining the economy. I would understand if they merchanted to get irl cash for their mils but thats just stupid to demand to take off the limit.

 

I blame you for the downfall of this great game, and anyway back on subject, I don't think Jagex would raise the cap because they want the money to stay in fluxuation throughout the economy, so they don't want someone who has the cap to just quit and keep the money, they want them to buy stuff, like bones for prayer, logs for fm/fletching, etc.

[TheSlayer]

only skills....which u dont have so....

 

Not like you should talk. Level 112 with 1500 skill total... pathetic :lol:

 

Look at some of his levels and think again idiot.

 

 

 

And merchanters doesnt really even play the game. They just are ruining the economy. I would understand if they merchanted to get irl cash for their mils but thats just stupid to demand to take off the limit.

 

I blame you for the downfall of this great game, and anyway back on subject, I don't think Jagex would raise the cap because they want the money to stay in fluxuation throughout the economy, so they don't want someone who has the cap to just quit and keep the money, they want them to buy stuff, like bones for prayer, logs for fm/fletching, etc.

 

... and increasing the limit will encourage them to do that how? It will just allow them to store and never use even more cash.

[gonpost]

I fail to comprehend the reasoning for disallowing a second stack of gp...

 

 

 

But that would be too easy, wouldn't it? Or maybe I just didn't read the rest of this thread. Oh well.