So Called "Prayer Noobs?"

[addey]

hmmm lol weird nvr heard that

 

though i always kinda h8ed those who raise prayer bcuz their too lazy to raise melee:P

 

ex:a person in rs has 99 prayer and is rank 26 and 70ish stats in melee =>102 cb :? and i actually met him thts how i kno cb lv

[undedcow]

i really agree with you, i think you shouldn't be called 'prayer noobs', you should just turn your prayer off and get your butts whipped :lol:

[Satenza]

I hate it when people with veracs pray when your fighting them in the pits. I never pray when I'm fighting players except when I'm being teamed or the other person puts on prayer. Smite isn't all that good.

[hmmsk]

I use prayer in wildy because i go there without the intent to kill anyone!!! And i hate it when they kill me even if they know they won't get anything, especially when i have nothing on in the wildy agility arena. Died there like 10 times getting my 61 agility :cry:

[Pur3_Fox]

I'm still training up (I'm pretty low level) and I've been working hard on my prayer. For the most part I find prayer is OK. Even one on one.

 

 

 

It's just like working hard to use magic when you are not a mage. It is a combat skill used to gain an advantage in a fight, people who shout "Pr4y3r n^b" are people who are obviously not patient enough to train the difficult prayer skill and are not strong enough to defeat somebody using it.

 

 

 

Prayer makes you a stronger opponent. Not a cheater or a noob.

 

 

 

I've repeated this a lot in the post, but to stress...

 

 

 

Prayer is a hard earned skill which assists in giving you an upside in combat. Anybody that believes prayer is unfair cannot stand to be at a disadvantage, because they are not skilled fighters and they literally need their opponent to hold back for a "Fair fight". A fair fight is you and your oppponent giving it everything you've got. Anything else is a sissy deathmatch.

 

 

 

(This is my first post, I hope it was good enough for you guys :) , I will try to make all my posts like this.)

 

 

 

When you say people that call you a "pray noob" are too impatient to train the "difficult" prayer skill, I am pretty sure you are mistaken. Several people that say that are pkers, who have mains to fund their pures. On their mains, they have prayer, but they choose not to WASTE combat levels on their pures. The reason people make pures is to be strong at a low combat. Getting prayer boosts the combat level up, and doesn't really make you much stronger. As for mains that call you a prayer noob, more than likely they have prayer too. Most of the time that someone calls you a prayer noob, they won't have less pray than you, unless they are pure.

 

 

 

Prayer does not make you a stronger opponent. It makes you a waste of time to fight. It actually makes you weaker, just more defensive.

 

 

 

It was a good first post =). We can always use members that make good posts like this :D .

 

 

 

 

 

On the subject of pures and prayer (Which we could argue FOREVER) a pure IS designed to stay at a low combat level and be strong. I am a pure aswell. But I still use prayer, look at famous pker's like Mahatma and 3 hit u. They use prayer because it gives them a definitive advantage. If you use Ultimate strength and you have 90 strength already you just gave yourself 2 or 3 extra damage possibly a hit.

 

 

 

Saying that prayer makes you weaker is quite stupid. Yes prayer DOES give you quite a few more combat levels. But it still gives you an advantage. On on a main there is NO QUESTION about having prayer or not. On pures it's debatable.

 

 

 

As you said, a pure can take on people of a higher combat level. Prayer has got to be the greatest single thing to decieve a pure.

 

 

 

Level 20 wilderness, mediumish, a few people pk around these areas, and they can be led up from dragons and castle. You are a pure with 45 prayer. There is another pure a dozen or so level lower then you without prayer. Unprayer-Pure attacks Prayer-Pure. Why not, he's completely pure (pure pure pure pure, pure pure. Pure) and should be able to kill a guy a dozen or so levels higher no problem. Uhoh, Prayer-Pure kicks his ever lovin' arse because he had a strong definitive advantage.

 

 

 

Prayer is a combat skill that is effective in, can you guess? Combat!

[milemaster55]

ya, i espcially hate it when in the duel arena ppl turn off prayer ON A FUN DUEL! isn't it to see who is the best overall? it is also annoying when ppl turn off range on duels, because then it is hard for me to kill them :evil:

 

back on topic, prayer noob is what people call u when they r jelous of ur stats

 

 

 

end of story

[Mat]

hmmm lol weird nvr heard that

 

though i always kinda h8ed those who raise prayer bcuz their too lazy to raise melee:P

 

ex:a person in rs has 99 prayer and is rank 26 and 70ish stats in melee =>102 cb :? and i actually met him thts how i kno cb lv

 

 

 

 

 

Errm....what?

 

 

 

Anywho, I dont see why praying is so bad. If you take the time to work on it, you should be able to use it

[bflitny1]

I don't think anyone who uses prayer is a noob, in any circumstances! even 1v1 funning at dul arena, if you beat someone who's not using prayer, have you really beaten them, I usually get disappointed when people don't use prayer, because I'll never know if I could really beat them! And the same goes for CW, I remember a few months ago a lvl 120 called me a prayer noob when I was running from him with the flag, I was about 98/9cb back then, wearing mystic, almost no defences and he was using dharoks g axe, what was I meant to do? And one more thing, why do people use dharoks in CW? It just allows you to hit higher, you're better off even with a dds.

[Outsanity]

I'll start off by saying I fully understand your point, and that I'm not a pker myself so I might be wrong on some points..

 

 

 

Pking is one of the aspects of the game such as merchanting or skilling.

 

The main point of the game is to have FUN, and quite alot of players have most fun when they pk.

 

But to keep it fun for everyone, some 'rules' have to be respected, not rules as stated by Jagex (well those too), but some other rules, known as 'The Code of Honour'.

 

This involves that the majority of the pking population don't really like things like Pile Jumping, Backstabbing, Teleporting, ...

 

Praying is one of them things most pkers don't like and find 'not done'.

 

 

 

It may now seem I am trying to tell you not to pray or any other of the above, but it's still your decision..

 

Look at it it way tho, consider you are fighting a TzHaar monster for the xp and drops for example.

 

You are killing them nicely using food and stuff when someone way higher than you comes up and starts killing all your monsters, therefore getting all the xp and drops, while you still waste the food.

 

You would consider this pretty annoying and 'not done' too, even though the player has probably trained hard for his lvls.

 

This is what I mean with 'The Code of Honour', even though it is not forbidden to do by the rules, it can get very annoying.

 

 

 

This is how I think about it, you might think differently and if you want to flame my opinion, go ahead, but remember it's only a game made for fun afterall...

 

 

 

You can't throw in the "Code of Honour" when it comes to pking. Pking at all is dishonourable. You want my respect, go train some skills and make your millions without getting it off someone who might not have even wanted to attack you in the first place.

 

 

 

But I won't waste my time on this argument. I've battled it and won many times, and I feel there's nothing left for me to say on this so called "Code."

 

 

 

Bottom line is: I've spent over 10,000,000 Gp in Dragon bones for my prayer level, and I'm going to use it to my advantage. If I wasn't going to use it, I wouldn't have it. It's that simple.

[bonus_malus]

I could be one of those noobs ... if I didn't tele-out at the first sign of PK-ers. When i'm in the wilderness I'm there to train and collect raw materials.

 

 

 

IMHO the only PK-er with honor is one that requests a match not one that jumps you. And don't come with arguments like " when you are in the wild, you can expected to be jumped upon" Sure .. by NPC not by PK-ers.

 

 

 

The wilderness is ment to be a place for players to duel or teams to battle not to behave like a mental and kill everyone in sight that doens't look like a threat.

 

 

 

People call me yellow but I think that PK-ers who jump guys like me (skillers, see below) are yellow. They dont wanna fight equals or high lvl player because they might die.

[Jack12338]

Why would pking be dishonorable though? I mean, you made the desicion to go into the wilderness, you KNOW there's a chance that you are going to die, but then again, I wouldn't assume that everyone going into the wilderness is for killing others, you have rune rocks... And... Well... Rune rocks.

 

P.S. Is a pjer a player jumper?

[Dudeisadude9]

It takes 700 D bones to use protect melee, Hows that "hard" work...compared to countless hours training both attack and strenght.

[mini193]

Exactly. I have 45 prayer. I worked for it.. i deserve it. I only have it because I worked for it and I deserve it. Like in many people's sigs. "I have a right to Pray" If they thinks its noobish too bad. We worked for it we deserve it

[Rebdragon]

I understand praying in the wilderness or praying with the flag at Castle Wars because dying would be a very bad thing to do (hurt your team or lose a lot of cash). But when people pray during a regular fight in Castle Wars not only does it waste time during a fight, but to me it shows signs of weakness, that your couldn't beat me in a real fight. I never use protection prayers in Castle Wars, even if I'm being teamed. Using protection prayers shows that you can't handle a fight, and have to pray to have a chance of winning.

 

 

 

Just my 2 cents.

[Jack12338]

Sounded more like 4 cents, but back on topic, why would prayer show signs of weakness? I mean, its a skill, you sacrificed combat levels for it, you might as well use it.

[camilogv]

ya i hate it when im in wilderness and someone comes up and attacks me then i get called a prayer n00b cause i use protect against melee and fight back.

 

 

 

Thats cuz you are one... :roll:

[kiddioo]

Kind of off-topic, but I've never been yelled at by the other guys for using the sword in Halo 2.

 

All I ever hear is "get the god-d*** sword away from that guy!" :lol:

 

The sword takes absolutly no skill to use. thats why they say that.

[Outsanity]

It takes 700 D bones to use protect melee, Hows that "hard" work...compared to countless hours training both attack and strenght.

 

 

 

Well...for most lower leveled players, 700 Dragon Bones aren't so easy to obtain...and most people don't use Dragon Bones right from level 1 Prayer, so you cannot assume it JUST takes 700 Dragon Bones to get there.

 

 

 

Besides...When you've spent around 10 Million Gp on Dragon Bones, and have crushed nearly 4,000 Dragon Bones total, it gets to be a lot. The higher your prayer, the longer it lasts, and people who don't have higher prayer than 43 won't last as long against me as they would with my Prayer level.

 

 

 

Point is...even though you say you only need 700...SOME of us have chosen to take Prayer a step further. People like us deserve to use it whenever WE see fit...not whenever others tell us to.

 

 

 

Besides...half of those supposedly "honourable" pkers are strength noobs. You think training strength to levels far above attack and defense is more fair than using a prayer to increase the chance of you evading hits? I don't think so.

[No_OnE]

I know what you mean. I'm level 64 combat and I like to have some fun in the duel arena. Well, I went up against a level 74. We both had full rune and we were both using a d-long. Well, I only have level 20 prayer so I used the two prayers that boost attack and strength. When I was about to beat the guy, he yelled out, "Prayer n00b!!" and resigned. I guess I still won but it still made me mad. Prayer has helped me a lot. I have beaten plenty of people with higher levels than me. I think the highest are two level 86's. Anyway, prayer is a very valuable skill, which is why I plan on leveling it here in the near future.

[jessy87]

i have solved your problem with people calling you a prayer noob. the answers can be found in the picture below

 

 

 

 

 

[QueenValerie]

I say if you got it flaunt it :lol: Prayer owns we all know it... 83 prayer here going for 84 soon. I use my prayer in C wars when 6 people are teaming on me, and they say lets get a screenie of the level 120 dieing to noobs.. I pop that on and well the rest is history,,, Sorry buds but no screenie of a level 120 going down.,.. :wink:

[weasel]

happens to us all i gues they just complain cause they dun have the skills that we do 8-)

[ironmaiden666]

The only time prayer noob really apllies is when ur at duel arena and u hav almost beat them and they whip out a pray, i think prayer is fine in wildy, especially when bein attacked by abyss pkers, and then they say prayer noob to the people there entangling or ice bursting

[money_bought]

you worked for the level, you use it simpel as that

 

 

 

same thing happens with defence

 

 

 

i was at teh duel arena today and some guy with like 80 mage and range 70 att 60 str 1 def wanted to stake me and goes no armour noob...

 

 

 

why should he deserve and advantage just because i trained in a way to comabt him with def seen as my other skills didnt match his?

[Furious_F]

I don't call players that, but I do find people that are a bit trigger-happy as for prayer protections a bit annoying. The only time you'll find me using a prayer of such sorts is when an ancient mage is protecting from melee attacks.

 

 

 

When at castle wars and the person I'm fighting with switches on melee protection, I ignore them and attack another player. This way my strength and attack (and attack prayer) is being put to it's best use, while they waste their prayer. And I also kinda tend to attack them again as soon as they cancel their protection - my vengeance :P

 

 

 

Surprisingly, some let go of it after a few times resulting in some good fights!