June 28, 200620 yr READ CAREFULLY PLEASE Long ago (a few months now) I have, with the help of Wydoncha, devised ways to make a VIABLE Deathcraft Company... Much like Fast Free Laws on world 66, but then with Death runes. I back then asked many people if they would be interested in crafting, and the response was pretty much 100% for everyone that COULD craft them. And why not, it would save a lot of cash on pure essence to get from 65 to 91 Runecrafting. Runners however were hard to find. The requirements were somewhat high. And even though they did not have to do ALL the required quests for it (halfway the Underground Pass quest was far enough), many people did not play for the thrill of quests, or visiting the wonderfull land of the elves, but rather stuck to greed. Some of you (only a few maybe) know exactly how the Deathcraft Company would work, for those who DO NOT know it: http://www.talshiar-alliance.com/Deathcraft_Company.html As said before: If you dont trust the link, dont click it, do not start complaining and ruin a perfectly good discussion. Not many people have done the quests to run Death runes, So I'm hoping that updating Prifddinas will push them over the edge to go do it. So there it is, the reason why I started the survey... Now for the question(s): - When do you expect that Jagex will update Prifddinas - What do you expect the update will be - If you have not started the Plague series, and the Prifddinas update happens; What should the update contain to make you start on the longest and hardest chain of quests Read the questions carefully before answering them. I've become something of an expert on the lands of Isdafar and Tirannwn (morytania too, but that is irrelevant here), so if you have any questions, feel free to ask them in this thread. Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT!
June 28, 200620 yr I dont see what prifddinas has to do with death crafting as i dont believe its anywhere near the alter :?
June 28, 200620 yr I dont see what prifddinas has to do with death crafting as i dont believe its anywhere near the alter :? It's the elf city, it's nearby the entrance to the Underground Pass and the well. It's pretty close and when it becomes an open city and you can teleport there and to undoubtedly a bank, Death Craftin/Running will be much easier.
June 28, 200620 yr When do you expect that Jagex will update Prifddinas - What do you expect the update will be - If you have not started the Plague series, and the Prifddinas update happens; What should the update contain to make you start on the longest and hardest chain of quests Answer to #1: I think Jagex will update Prifddinas when Mournings end pt3 comes out(Possbly July or August) Answer to #2: I have done almost all the plaque series quests, only need to do the 2nd part..I think it should be more difficult than doing Part2 without a guide..Cause if thing this is going to be whats its cracked up to be, were in for some good stuff(Maybe making it take longer to create, only to be worth it)Maybe requirements be like, 65Farming(Possibly to keep other lower levels out of the gig) 70 Agility, high things like that..Things that people don't like to train (Note: I'm not saying taht for my part, I don't have those skills..) All Quests completed99 Thieving achieved on January 10th, 200899 Defense achieved on August 3rd, 200885 Slayer achieved on July 31st, 20086 Dragon boot drops, 14 Whip drops
June 28, 200620 yr Author I dont see what prifddinas has to do with death crafting as i dont believe its anywhere near the alter :? People, this is the perfect example of someone who hasnt read the post... Read the part in red please... Its where I ask if an Prifddinas update will push you to do the Plague series quests, which are required for the Deathcraft Company... :shame: Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT!
June 28, 200620 yr i personnaly think this might not work. good idea but might not work. we will just wait and see how it works. good luck (i have read thru entire post just so u know. and nice site logo)
June 28, 200620 yr I dont see what prifddinas has to do with death crafting as i dont believe its anywhere near the alter :? It's the elf city, it's nearby the entrance to the Underground Pass and the well. It's pretty close and when it becomes an open city and you can teleport there and to undoubtedly a bank, Death Craftin/Running will be much easier.Wait, the death alter is in the underground pass? I thought it was in that big maze temple place where the dark beasts are, thats in ardougne. I must be missing something here... :? I dont see what prifddinas has to do with death crafting as i dont believe its anywhere near the alter :? People, this is the perfect example of someone who hasnt read the post... Read the part in red please... Its where I ask if an Prifddinas update will push you to do the Plague series quests, which are required for the Deathcraft Company... :shame:Well if thats what you mean people wont do it, its too long of a walk and a dangerous one too, you have to carry alot of things in your inventory and the only way you could do it effectivly would be through the abyss
June 28, 200620 yr Author I dont see what prifddinas has to do with death crafting as i dont believe its anywhere near the alter :? It's the elf city, it's nearby the entrance to the Underground Pass and the well. It's pretty close and when it becomes an open city and you can teleport there and to undoubtedly a bank, Death Craftin/Running will be much easier.Wait, the death alter is in the underground pass? I thought it was in that big maze temple place where the dark beasts are, thats in ardougne. I must be missing something here... :? I dont see what prifddinas has to do with death crafting as i dont believe its anywhere near the alter :? People, this is the perfect example of someone who hasnt read the post... Read the part in red please... Its where I ask if an Prifddinas update will push you to do the Plague series quests, which are required for the Deathcraft Company... :shame:Well if thats what you mean people wont do it, its too long of a walk and a dangerous one too, you have to carry alot of things in your inventory and the only way you could do it effectivly would be through the abyss Actually, you should read the site I posted in the first post of this thread... You will see that there are easier and faster ways the further down the quest line you progress... Yes, you can access the Death Altar from inside the Underground Pass... During Mournings End, you learn that the dwarves have tunneled to it from there (well, to the Mysterious Ruins of the Death Altar). Ofcourse Abyss is faster, but if one could use the Abyss, one wouldnt need to use the Company... NOW CAN WE PLEASE STOP DEBATING THE POSSIBILITY OF THE DEATHCRAFT COMPANIES VIABILITY, AND RETURN TO THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION: - When do you expect that Jagex will update Prifddinas - What do you expect the update will be - If you have not started the Plague series, and the Prifddinas update happens; What should the update contain to make you start on the longest and hardest chain of quests Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT!
June 28, 200620 yr 1) hopefully some time in the near future 2) Just enterance to the city, and maybe some more crystal weapons, or even armor :pray: 3) done all so this doesnt apply to me :P
June 28, 200620 yr sounds quite a good idea, if it came out, id be a crafter if the oppotunity arose. I'm not drunk! You wouldn't dare call me drunk if i was sober!
June 28, 200620 yr Runners however were hard to find. The requirements were somewhat high. And even though they did not have to do ALL the required quests for it (halfway the Underground Pass quest was far enough), many people did not play for the thrill of quests, or visiting the wonderfull land of the elves, but rather stuck to greed. Stuck to greed? Are you just ignorant? You can make more money running laws as tey sell for 300ea, deaths are hard to get 300 for. Deaths also require a hellish trip through the underground pass which i would wish upon no one. Greed? More like being sensible why do they owe yuo anything? Why should they help you out? You do nothing for them, so why would they let you futher buy another skill. Greed? You run your own ess. Then you will see why no one wants to go through the pass. And what a waste of time compared to running laws it is. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
June 28, 200620 yr Author Runners however were hard to find. The requirements were somewhat high. And even though they did not have to do ALL the required quests for it (halfway the Underground Pass quest was far enough), many people did not play for the thrill of quests, or visiting the wonderfull land of the elves, but rather stuck to greed. Stuck to greed? Are you just ignorant? You can make more money running laws as tey sell for 300ea, deaths are hard to get 300 for. Deaths also require a hellish trip through the underground pass which i would wish upon no one. Greed? More like being sensible why do they owe yuo anything? Why should they help you out? You do nothing for them, so why would they let you futher buy another skill. Greed? You run your own ess. Then you will see why no one wants to go through the pass. And what a waste of time compared to running laws it is. Yess... You've obviously looked up my stats and realised I can make Deathrunes and be a crafter... but OMG NO!!! I cant!!! I'd be a runner most definitly... Why? Cuz i want deathrunes. "Laws are 300, Deaths are hard to get 300 for" If i have 5k laws, can you please exchange them for 5k Deathrunes? "Death require a hellish trip yadayada" Did you even read the DeathCraft Company guide? Lletya route isnt hellish at all, and I can pretty much GUARANTEE that you dont die even doing the Underground route (provided you finished the quest to up to that point). Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT!
June 28, 200620 yr Well then it's simple. The time it takes to get through the pass you could have run like 3 loads of laws. Sell them, and buy death. It's obvious and anyone who see's this is not a waste of time needs to look a little harder. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
June 28, 200620 yr 1. Some time soon hopefully 2. A bunch of fancy stuff to drain more money from the game. 3. A teleport to the new city, also a support group for underground pass survivors. (Quit: tallest please come to the death altar, give me 1,337,000,000 gp, a golden tinderbox, and a spade, also steal one of zidanes phats and give it to me.
June 28, 200620 yr Author Well then it's simple. The time it takes to get through the pass you could have run like 3 loads of laws. Sell them, and buy death. It's obvious and anyone who see's this is not a waste of time needs to look a little harder. However, the ammount of people that want laws is much larger... The waiting time to be "law-ed" is much longer... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT!
June 28, 200620 yr 1. Some time soon hopefully 2. A bunch of fancy stuff to drain more money from the game. 3. A teleport to the new city, also a support group for underground pass survivors. there is a tele prot to lletya that is the little elf tonw behind the moutains so a new telport wouldnt be needed
June 28, 200620 yr 1. Some time soon hopefully 2. A bunch of fancy stuff to drain more money from the game. 3. A teleport to the new city, also a support group for underground pass survivors. there is a tele prot to lletya that is the little elf tonw behind the moutains so a new telport wouldnt be needed He said a teleport to the NEW city( I think he means Priffindas) All Quests completed99 Thieving achieved on January 10th, 200899 Defense achieved on August 3rd, 200885 Slayer achieved on July 31st, 20086 Dragon boot drops, 14 Whip drops
June 29, 200620 yr Author A teleport to the city is what everyone expects... But what if the rewards fo that city are too great for any normal means of teleportation (Spell, Crystal, Ectophial)? Perhaps a teleport that requires a little bit of extra effort, like the Camulet or Lyre Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT!
June 29, 200620 yr Well then it's simple. The time it takes to get through the pass you could have run like 3 loads of laws. Sell them, and buy death. It's obvious and anyone who see's this is not a waste of time needs to look a little harder. However, the ammount of people that want laws is much larger... The waiting time to be "law-ed" is much longer... unless you do 2 simple quests and go inside the alter yourself. if you do that, you will get 2-4 trades instantly. - When do you expect that Jagex will update Prifddinas -- a few months, they still have things they are planning for other updates - What do you expect the update will be -- quest + new areas - If you have not started the Plague series, and the Prifddinas update happens; What should the update contain to make you start on the longest and hardest chain of quests -- a new GOOD weapon or armour. nothing like an egg beater from recipe for disaster.
June 29, 200620 yr Author unless you do 2 simple quests and go inside the alter yourself. if you do that, you will get 2-4 trades instantly. I agree, well, 2-4 trades is a bit exaggerated... But the question was for the people to go as far as underground pass for free deaths... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT!
June 29, 200620 yr Runners however were hard to find. The requirements were somewhat high. And even though they did not have to do ALL the required quests for it (halfway the Underground Pass quest was far enough), many people did not play for the thrill of quests, or visiting the wonderfull land of the elves, but rather stuck to greed. Stuck to greed? Are you just ignorant? You can make more money running laws as tey sell for 300ea, deaths are hard to get 300 for. Deaths also require a hellish trip through the underground pass which i would wish upon no one. Greed? More like being sensible why do they owe yuo anything? Why should they help you out? You do nothing for them, so why would they let you futher buy another skill. Greed? You run your own ess. Then you will see why no one wants to go through the pass. And what a waste of time compared to running laws it is. Yess... You've obviously looked up my stats and realised I can make Deathrunes and be a crafter... but OMG NO!!! I cant!!! I'd be a runner most definitly... Why? Cuz i want deathrunes. "Laws are 300, Deaths are hard to get 300 for" If i have 5k laws, can you please exchange them for 5k Deathrunes? "Death require a hellish trip yadayada" Did you even read the DeathCraft Company guide? Lletya route isnt hellish at all, and I can pretty much GUARANTEE that you dont die even doing the Underground route (provided you finished the quest to up to that point). I don't know about that. I can die in a LOT of places.
June 29, 200620 yr The elf city isnt the closest place to the underground pass exit. Its the elf village which is already there. If you ran deaths you'd have to make 1 wire trap each direction and a leaf trap. Its a pain. I've forgot to charge my ammy and had to walk it a couple of times. Just having the city means you could walk alot farther and no wire trap. I'm more interested in the additions to mortania and possibility of a blood altar. Deaths are abyss or nothing. Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol
June 29, 200620 yr laws are worth more, least dangerous... and easy with glory... more crafters... and lets abby pk at world 60... :twisted: ^^ click my sig for my lesser ranging guide ^^jwrm22: 4816th > 99 cooking 100% f2p !1172 total! + 140mil in items.i dont play anymore... i think rs is ruined
June 29, 200620 yr Author The elf city isnt the closest place to the underground pass exit. Its the elf village which is already there. If you ran deaths you'd have to make 1 wire trap each direction and a leaf trap. Its a pain. I've forgot to charge my ammy and had to walk it a couple of times. Just having the city means you could walk alot farther and no wire trap. I'm more interested in the additions to mortania and possibility of a blood altar. Deaths are abyss or nothing. If you've done the quests up to that point, you should have 56+ agility... I hardly fail any of these traps, and even then... it doesnt kill you, just damage you... Remember that the dwarves provide quite a bit of food to heal you back up :) Im trying to make deaths to be abyss or this, instead of nothing... so people who havent done the quests have access to deathrunes too... laws are worth more, least dangerous... and easy with glory... more crafters... and lets abby pk at world 60... :twisted: So... laws are worth more? can i have 5 deathrunes if i give you 5k law runes? pk all you want, I strongly recommended against the abyss route for Deathcraft Company Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT!
June 30, 200620 yr I would think that if you had the means to do some of the more effective running routes, it probably wouldn't be so much hassle for you to raise your rc to 65. Let's face it, who would want to go through the underground pass everytime for a few deaths? The other routes might be okay, but if you just trained your rc a bit more you could get the 65 and run through the abyss which would be a lot faster and you'd be getting the exp. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo"
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