I tried posting my image of my bank page but id have to regester with a hosting service and thats a bit to much. so iv edited this list with most of the stuff in my bank. so look at all i have wroten and remember there is alot more I will add to my bank and then drop stuff I need to make room.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go to Imageshack.us

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Select Browse.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Find the Picture.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Click "host it!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Copy "Hotlink for Forums 1" Which may be in the top set or bottom set.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Paste the link and send it to me via PM.

i reckon yeh we've got to get more space cos im a jack of all trades and i dont have enough room and i won't be a member til better internet

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i was lazy and only read the first page if the topics strayed and every one's wondering what im talking about -.-

Have I disproven the idea that F2P needs more bank space yet? No one has posted trying to prove me wrong, so far.

i have, look i got rid of all the so called junk. i attended a drop party gave away alot of my stuff and now my bank is maxed out again. but this time the only thing of less than 1k value is a steel kite sheild for a frend of sorts. i even got rid of my marionet and zombi head. now if i try to make those amulets even if i was to do one at a time my bank will max out. i cant drop anything that i dont use or need. what am i to drop? my frog prince outfit? i use that quite often. if i try to get anouther kind of arrow it will max out, if i try to store my armour it will max out. ectra ectra ectra. it is maxed out already save perhaps one slot. the only things left for me to drop are thing i need.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i even got rid of my tools. look you may not be a jack of all trades or have this problem but I do. I run a clan and they need orange capes and purple gloves. with less than 5 things for play in my bank and no junk yet still maxed out I think we reely need more bank space. so do members I admit that but heers a compromise we can all live with. say for every 10 new bank slots members are given f2p is given one. this would help to establish balance and would make it a fairer system.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as it stands members keep getting more and more bank space when f2p desprately needs it. so yes I do need more free to play bank space. so does prankster king, penguin freek, and the 340 other people who have come to this thread and asked to be put on the list. so do thausands, tens of thausends or perhaps millions of free to players all across runescape. and we do deserve it dispite the fact we donot pay. read the first page of this thread and you will see why.

I agree with you, Bufoman. I have quite the same kinds of problems happen to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

Have I disproven the idea that F2P needs more bank space yet?

 

 

 

Nope. That's still something you need to accomplish.

The bottom line is THIS:

 

 

 

F2P DOES need more bank space.

 

 

 

F2P will NOT get it.

 

 

 

F2P IS a major part of the economy, but what kind of arguement is "I sell things to members so I deserve more bank space"? You blatantly don't sell things with "I'm going to help members" in mind, you sell them for the gold coins. F2P do NOT deserve more bank space simply for playing. That's a ridiculous arguement that needs to be dropped, now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You want more bank space, you pay. You don't like it, don't play.

 

 

 

That's how it works.

I take it your a member who doesen't know what it's like to have limited bank space. I myself have many random events, and have wizard robes, runes, 3 rune weapons, archery gear, pic axe, woodchopping axe, and all sorts of arrows in my bank, and thats just the stuff I can use to fight with! I use to be members so I also have 100 castle wars tickets and a rune hally I keep so when I become members again I can use them, along with lobbies, ores, and all that other stuff. I definatly support this idea of a little more bank space.

Right I'll start off by saying sorry i've not been able to keep you updated on things that I have found out but since my last post my internet has been down and has only just been sorted. I have read from my last post up until midway through page 37 because I got fed up with rose. We are not debating whether Bufoman can spell we are debating the topic of: 'More F2P bank space!'. I have seen that you don't want F2P to have more bank space and/or believe that its a waste of time because jagex will not give it so drop it and leave. I do believe that trading items to a friend and then them trading them to your other account is breaking the rules about having more than one account but I will send a message to find out so that then you can be reported and then be kicked from the forums and we dont have to read you posts that say the same thing every time. Finaly you said the following:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can pay by cash, you can even steal your mother's credit card and buy a month or two of members. You can ask a friend to pay it for you as long as you give him/her 5$ a month. Honestly, one of the weakest arguments I've seen, there are tons of ways to get members without your parent's consent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This goes beyond all human morals because religion says it best when it says:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you shall not steal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Before anybody asks i'm not religous and so do not want anyone saying my religion is getting in the way of this idea. Also yes you can get your friend to pay but you said this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can ask a friend to pay it for you as long as you give him/her 5$ a month.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe the main reason for people not being able to pay is because the parents do not give them the money not that they won't pay it. If you think there are many other ways of getting members without parental consent then I would like you to post them as there are no others that I can think of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For people who have only just found the thread and have not read more than the first few pages and the last few posts I am P2P but have only been so for 3 months so I know that there is a need for more space, I also know I was saying earlier in the post that there are ways of getting round it which there possible are (I am not saying this as a certainty) but the main way of getting the problem sorted is probably to just make the bank for F2P 12 slots bigger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People who have said 12 is not enough and that 30 to 45 are needed that is called greed because even prankster has said that is going a bit too far and you wouldn't need all the space if you were careful with what you put in (look a few pages back where I showed no_username4 how he could clear some spaces and how you only need some esentials (not tons of coal and tons of yews at the same time!!).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Many people have suggested a quest that opens up more bank space for F2P and P2P, this is an idea that I would support and that would work well the only fault I can find is that this may be hard for Jagex to program (anyone who is saying I know nothing about programming I will admit I don't know much as I only know a little bit of BASIC (This is a programming language like Java)).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People who believe that P2Ps will get better responses from Jagex I have already tried and posted the reply in an earlier post. I will try again after finishing this but will not hope much as they don't seem to take notice of suggestions via the message centre.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is all I will say for now. I will send the message to Jagex That I have said I will send and will post back with the replies but for now I will say goodbye.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: before even messaging Jagex about trading to friends and them trading to you I looked in the knowledge base and found this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can I give items to another player from one of my accounts, so that they can then give the items to another character that I play?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, this goes against the rule. You may not transfer items between your accounts in any way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. Rose don't say I have bad spelling and/or Grammer because I don't care.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S.S. Sorry about any off-topicness just incase.

p0nd3r4: Mind telling us why they have to pay to get bank space?

 

 

 

Aaron4: Nice to see you actually sort of support this now.

 

 

 

Rose_2_Pure: Many people have "argued". They've all been stopped, and some "converted" to "our side". And look at what Aarone said about "muling".

 

 

 

Prices are set by every buyer and seller in RuneScape. The majority of those buyers/sellers are F2P. So F2P DO affect the economy.

 

 

 

You say that there is a lot of "junk" in F2P banks. I'm guessing you're one of those people who claim that selling an item, then buying it back when you use it is a solution. If you aren't, I apologize. But if you are, that doesn't work. The main concern I have about F2P banks is the random event items. I think they take up 16 spaces if you have them all. 16 spaces is a lot to F2P. And have you ever thought Bufoman doesn't know English too well? Would you be able to type in Romanian perfectly? Of course not, unless you know it well.

 

 

 

You can ask a friend to pay it for you as long as you give him/her 5$ a month.

 

 

 

I'm not sure where it says, but only family members can pay for membership. And if you can't pay Jagex $5 a month, then how can you pay your friend?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Once again, random event items is one of the main things behind this thread. Jagex adds more random event (items), which F2P can't store. And they can't sell it. And can't get it back without getting the event again. If Jagex makes random event items able to get back, it would give experienced F2Pers, who need this update most, more than 10 spaces.

 

 

 

You want more bank space, you pay. You don't like it, don't play.

 

 

 

That's how it works.

 

 

 

Except when the membership ends you lose the bankspace and then have to deal with lots of members objects. Seriously, how many times do I have to explain this?

p0nd3r4: Mind telling us why they have to pay to get bank space?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm a calm, self-controlled person, but jesus christ, you make me want to curse. Are you mentally impaired?? Have you somehow not picked up on the basic concepts of business/life? Jagex and members pay for RuneScape to exist. F2P do not. How the BEEP can you justify saying you deserve more, when you don't even deserve to play the damn game in the first place, by all rights? For god's sake, what's wrong with you people!

 

 

 

It's an incredibly basic concept:

 

 

 

F2P give absolutely nothing to Jagex, yet Jagex give F2P a great game to play.

 

 

 

Members give money to Jagex, so Jagex give members an even better game to play.

 

 

 

How is that unfair? My god, could you be any more ungrateful?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One way or another, you people are going to have to learn at some point that most of the time, you don't get something for nothing.

 

 

 

Yet not only do you not realise that, you actually have the nerve to feel that you deserve MORE for nothing. Worse STILL, you have the outright indecency to DEMAND more for nothing. To hell with you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AceScope - actually I was F2P for around 2 years. I know what it's like to have the very limited bank space, it's a real pain. At the end of the day, that's not what matters here. No matter how little bank space F2P are given, they should be grateful for even getting that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tetsuya - I realise this. I've gone through it about 6 times. If you want, you can go around and gather 1 or more of every F2P item, then you'll no longer have a problem. Anyhow, that's irrelevant. If you want to keep your bank slots, you purchase membership status again. It's really quite simple.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh I'd also like to point out that nobody forces you to play this game. If you don't want to pay for it but aren't satisfied with the free version then don't [bleep]ing play it. It's THAT easy. What you DON'T do is complain about it.

 

 

 

How do your minds work? I can't even begin to comprehend your thought processes. All I can imagine is something like: "I'm not given enough, considering I actually spend my precious time enjoying this game for free."

 

p0nd3r4: Mind telling us why they have to pay to get bank space?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm a calm, self-controlled person, but jesus christ, you make me want to curse. Are you mentally impaired?? Have you somehow not picked up on the basic concepts of business/life? Jagex and members pay for RuneScape to exist. F2P do not. How the BEEP can you justify saying you deserve more, when you don't even deserve to play the damn game in the first place, by all rights? For god's sake, what's wrong with you people!

 

 

 

It's an incredibly basic concept:

 

 

 

F2P give absolutely nothing to Jagex, yet Jagex give F2P a great game to play.

 

 

 

Members give money to Jagex, so Jagex give members an even better game to play.

 

 

 

How is that unfair? My god, could you be any more ungrateful?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One way or another, you people are going to have to learn at some point that most of the time, you don't get something for nothing.

 

 

 

Yet not only do you not realise that, you actually have the nerve to feel that you deserve MORE for nothing. Worse STILL, you have the outright indecency to DEMAND more for nothing. To hell with you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AceScope - actually I was F2P for around 2 years. I know what it's like to have the very limited bank space, it's a real pain. At the end of the day, that's not what matters here. No matter how little bank space F2P are given, they should be grateful for even getting that.

 

 

 

The bolded part is the flaw in your argument. F2P give a lot to Jagex, but obviously not as much as us members.

 

 

 

F2P gives Jagex:

 

 

 

-Money through advertisements. Even if they are per-click, I'm pretty sure some people misclick them by accident.

 

 

 

-More players. Like I said (Somewhere in the first 36 pages), not everyone will pay for membership. Those players are what I'm talking about.

 

 

 

-A way to keep old members after they don't feel like paying anymore. If not for F2P, a lot of people would quit, and Jagex would lose money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

F2P is the way Jagex drags in new members. If Jagex does not make sensible F2P updates, or no F2P updates at all, most F2P will make one of two choices...

 

 

 

1. Quit out of boredom from the lack of updates.

 

 

 

2. Get membership.

 

 

 

Now, not everyone is willing to pay for membership. I'm not saying they can't afford it, but they have better things to spend their money on. Those people will either quit or just play F2P...I'm sure a lot will quit. Because they quit, Jagex has just lost potential members/potential money. You are the one who doesn't understand the basic concepts of business...

 

 

p0nd3r4: Mind telling us why they have to pay to get bank space?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm a calm, self-controlled person, but jesus christ, you make me want to curse. Are you mentally impaired?? Have you somehow not picked up on the basic concepts of business/life? Jagex and members pay for RuneScape to exist. F2P do not. How the BEEP can you justify saying you deserve more, when you don't even deserve to play the damn game in the first place, by all rights? For god's sake, what's wrong with you people!

 

 

 

It's an incredibly basic concept:

 

 

 

F2P give absolutely nothing to Jagex, yet Jagex give F2P a great game to play.

 

 

 

Members give money to Jagex, so Jagex give members an even better game to play.

 

 

 

How is that unfair? My god, could you be any more ungrateful?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One way or another, you people are going to have to learn at some point that most of the time, you don't get something for nothing.

 

 

 

Yet not only do you not realise that, you actually have the nerve to feel that you deserve MORE for nothing. Worse STILL, you have the outright indecency to DEMAND more for nothing. To hell with you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AceScope - actually I was F2P for around 2 years. I know what it's like to have the very limited bank space, it's a real pain. At the end of the day, that's not what matters here. No matter how little bank space F2P are given, they should be grateful for even getting that.

 

 

 

The bolded part is the flaw in your argument. F2P give a lot to Jagex, but obviously not as much as us members.

 

 

 

F2P gives Jagex:

 

 

 

-Money through advertisements. Even if they are per-click, I'm pretty sure some people misclick them by accident.

 

 

 

-More players. Like I said (Somewhere in the first 36 pages), not everyone will pay for membership. Those players are what I'm talking about.

 

 

 

-A way to keep old members after they don't feel like paying anymore. If not for F2P, a lot of people would quit, and Jagex would lose money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

F2P is the way Jagex drags in new members. If Jagex does not make sensible F2P updates, or no F2P updates at all, most F2P will make one of two choices...

 

 

 

1. Quit out of boredom from the lack of updates.

 

 

 

2. Get membership.

 

 

 

Now, not everyone is willing to pay for membership. I'm not saying they can't afford it, but they have better things to spend their money on. Those people will either quit or just play F2P...I'm sure a lot will quit. Because they quit, Jagex has just lost potential members/potential money. You are the one who doesn't understand the basic concepts of business...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Haha, you tell me I don't understand business, yet I'm telling you Jagex won't give you bank space and, surprise surprise, no bank space for you yet. I'm sure you're not going to tell me that Jagex, also, don't understand business when they make millions every month. Hopefully you see my point here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Once again you prove yourself to be an ungrateful fool.

 

 

 

Indeed, F2P give TONS to Jagex by viewing advertisements on their page... as if they have a choice. You may rebuttal by saying that the advertisements are per-click. So, that would mean that F2P are giving a lot to Jagex because they click on advertisements that appeal to them. Right, I'm sure Jagex would appreciate that thoughtful, thoughtful gesture.

 

 

 

More players... of course, that's great. I'm sure if there's one thing on Jagex's christmas list, it's more non-paying players! Yes, every member started as a free player. Yes, F2P needs to be there as a trial to get people interested. No, that doesn't mean F2P deserves any more than they already have.

 

 

 

A way to keep old members... if not for F2P, a lot of people would quit and Jagex would lose money? Err, logic fault, anyone? I don't think Jagex is going to lose any money from EX-members quitting. :/

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's this supposed to prove anyway? I'm not trying to deny that F2P isn't an important part of the game. I'm trying to deny that F2P deserve more bank space, or even F2P itself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I honestly can't believe that you're so warped to think that by playing their game and exhausting their resources you're entitled to.. well..anything at all. If anything, YOU owe JAGEX more bank space. They should start reducing bank slots for those who aren't paying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for your last point, you're clearly speculating. F2P will make one of THREE choices:

 

 

 

1. Quit out of boredom from the lack of updates (I'm guessing maybe 5% maximum over the next year).

 

 

 

2. Get membership (I'm guessing 10% MINIMUM over the next year)

 

 

 

3. Continue playing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most players will probably go with #3. Probably including you.

 

 

 

And to your very last point: -_-

 

 

 

Congratulations, you've just made another huge mistake! :)

 

 

 

You say not everyone will pay for membership, fair enough. You then say a lot of those people may quit, losing jagex potential money. If they're not going to pay, there's no potential loss to Jagex...?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You produce little sense and even less wisdom. I wish not to argue with you any further. You may either stand corrected, or continue your ungrateful whining. Just know that there's an unpleasant slang word for your kind. The word is 'snob'.

Congratulations, you've completely forgotten the point I'm a member!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We've gotten bankspace alright...We got a bunch last week.

 

 

 

Did I ever say that Jagex gets TONS from advertisements/F2P?

 

 

 

More non-playing players can easily end up as more paying players. Common sense, anyone? And ex-members can also easily become members again...

 

 

 

F2P DOES need more bank space.

 

 

 

I'm trying to deny that F2P deserve more bank space, or even F2P itself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Contradicting? Don't think that DESERVE and NEED are any different. If F2P need bank space, they deserve it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let's see...If you had a choice to play a game in which they gave you updates, at least once a month, or RuneScape, which gives none at all, which one would you play? (This is not a real situation, if you were stupid enough to think so)

 

 

 

MOST people would go with the one that has updates. Not all, as some "loyal" players will stick with RuneScape. And some will pay. You're speculating as well, I'm sure you can't read the minds of every F2Per.

 

 

 

You don't act like you even know what potential loss is. Say there are 5 F2Pers. They all could become P2P at any point. Meaning $25 more profit for Jagex per month. Then they all quit because they can't fit items in their bankspace, and are getting tired of it. That $25 per month that Jagex could have made is now gone. That's potential loss. Just make that on a larger scale, over 50K people. (Or even 500K)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

None of your "corrections" were corrections. I showed you why. Let's see if you can be a little wiser next time. And how am I a snob? According to M-W.com...

one who blatantly imitates, fawningly admires, or vulgarly seeks association with those regarded as social superiors

 

 

 

I don't exactly "blatantly imitates", "fawningly admires" or "vulgarly seeks association" with those regarded as "social superiors". Actually, I guess P2P COULD be considered those" social superiors"...

 

 

 

Oh, and you call this whining...

to complain with or as if with a whine

 

 

 

Complain? Yes. That's pretty much what this forum AND rants is for. The definition of the word whine in that definition is...

 

 

 

to utter a high-pitched plaintive or distressed cry

This isn't plaintive or distressed.

"Don't think that DESERVE and NEED are any different. If F2P need bank space, they deserve it. "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

O.M.F.G.

 

 

 

That's the most amazingly brattish statement I've ever read!

 

 

 

You think just because you need something, you deserve it??!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hahahahaha, you go through the rest of your life with that mentality, see where it gets you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Say there are 5 F2Pers. They all could become P2P at any point. Meaning $25 more profit for Jagex per month. Then they all quit because they can't fit items in their bankspace, and are getting tired of it. That $25 per month that Jagex could have made is now gone."

 

 

 

First of all, if they were going to become members, it's only logical that they'd become members rather than quit the game, no?

 

 

 

Secondly, I'm quite sure the amount of people that will actually quit just because they aren't satisfied with the amount of bank slots they get in F2P is negligable. I can only hope, anyway, that the majority of F2P aren't like you and can appreciate what they're given.

38 pages is alot to read so im not sure if this has been mentioned but you dont need to store the newer holiday items in your bank. The game just gives them to you if you lose them and go ask the npcs for another one. There is no need to use this as a valid point for bank space.

Are you blind or something? Just to make sure you can see...I am a member!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The need/deserve thing:

 

 

 

You say F2P need bankspace, but don't deserve it. Unless you really are that stupid, you'd be able to see that your statement contradicts your self. Maybe not completely, but a little. How does F2P not deserve bank space? Yes, they don't directly pay. But they indirectly give Jagex money through advertisements. They don't give as much as members, but they give enough to support F2P servers as I am told. Once again, I bring up a point I made a few pages ago:

 

 

 

If F2P do not deserve bank space/updates, then why the heck have F2P gotten updates this year? Two weeks ago, they got one!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, if they were going to become members, it's only logical that they'd become members rather than quit the game, no?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did I ever say they were going to become members? I said they COULD. Once again, you prove your English isn't too good. COULD is different than WILL.

 

 

 

The amount of F2P players that will quit because of bank space obviously isn't a lot. But the amount of F2P players that will quit because they aren't getting ANY sensible updates will be a lot. Why? F2P gets boring after a while if you don't have anything new to do. That's why I became a member, I was really bored with F2P, and I had resorted to doing some strange merchanting game I found on these forums. If people get bored, they usually will quit whatever they're doing. In this case, that's RuneScape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Encicra: If only random event items were like that.

AMEN!

 

 

 

On my main i always have to carry at least 5 items, with my bank still full!

 

 

 

It's insane! :wall:

p0nd3r4: Mind telling us why they have to pay to get bank space?

 

 

 

Aaron4: Nice to see you actually sort of support this now.

 

 

 

Rose_2_Pure: Many people have "argued". They've all been stopped, and some "converted" to "our side". And look at what Aarone said about "muling".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mind telling us why you should get Bank Space?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't bother to read his post because I can assume he's repeating what I've disproven.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prices are set by every buyer and seller in RuneScape. The majority of those buyers/sellers are F2P. So F2P DO affect the economy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been F2P for a while now and I can't remember I saw an F2P'er buying Yew Logs, large amounts of Ores, or Essence. They are almost always P2P'ers in F2P. And as I said ALREADY, if P2P'ers couldn't buy from F2P'ers we would have people in P2P which would do the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And have you ever thought Bufoman doesn't know English too well? Would you be able to type in Romanian perfectly? Of course not, unless you know it well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, my bad, I thought this was a english-speaking forum.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can ask a friend to pay it for you as long as you give him/her 5$ a month.

 

 

 

I'm not sure where it says, but only family members can pay for membership. And if you can't pay Jagex $5 a month, then how can you pay your friend?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't think making $5.00 was very hard, you really can do ANYTHING to make money. And if your not sure where it says only family members may pay for membership then don't post it until you have signifigant proof.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Once again, random event items is one of the main things behind this thread. Jagex adds more random event (items), which F2P can't store. And they can't sell it. And can't get it back without getting the event again. If Jagex makes random event items able to get back, it would give experienced F2Pers, who need this update most, more than 10 spaces.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And, once again, I will repeat what I have 3(?) times. JAGeX DOESN'T VIEW F2P AS A SMALLER GAME, THEY VIEW IT AS A TRIAL FOR MEMBERS. GIVING YOU MORE ITEMS IS JUST THEM PUSHING YOU TO GET MEMBERS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rose

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

 

 

penguingeek3 I decided to read the post you made at the top of the page. Review page 37 and I think 36 for your answers, don't just start debating a point when it's been disproven.

 

p0nd3r4: Mind telling us why they have to pay to get bank space?

 

 

 

Aaron4: Nice to see you actually sort of support this now.

 

 

 

Rose_2_Pure: Many people have "argued". They've all been stopped, and some "converted" to "our side". And look at what Aarone said about "muling".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mind telling us why you should get Bank Space?

 

 

 

How about reviewing the first post?

 

 

 

I didn't bother to read his post because I can assume he's repeating what I've disproven.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prices are set by every buyer and seller in RuneScape. The majority of those buyers/sellers are F2P. So F2P DO affect the economy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been F2P for a while now and I can't remember (The last time?) I saw an F2P'er buying Yew Logs, large amounts of Ores, or Essence. They are almost always P2P'ers in F2P. And as I said ALREADY, if P2P'ers couldn't buy from F2P'ers we would have people in P2P which would do the same thing.

 

 

 

Irrelevant. I wasn't saying that P2P trade with F2P. I was saying F2P trade amongst themselves, and that affects the economy. You might have said something about this already, my bad if you did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And have you ever thought Bufoman doesn't know English too well? Would you be able to type in Romanian perfectly? Of course not, unless you know it well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, my bad, I thought this was a english-speaking forum.

 

 

 

English speaking? Yes. Having everyone type in perfect English, even if they're from some non-English speaking country? No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can ask a friend to pay it for you as long as you give him/her 5$ a month.

 

 

 

I'm not sure where it says, but only family members can pay for membership. And if you can't pay Jagex $5 a month, then how can you pay your friend?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't think making $5.00 was very hard, you really can do ANYTHING to make money. And if your not sure where it says only family members may pay for membership then don't post it until you have signifigant proof.

 

 

 

You can only do this if the person you are paying for is a member of your immediate family. This is necessary to help us detect fraud. Ignoring this warning could result in any associated accounts being banned.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you wish to purchase membership for someone outside of your family, we recommend you give them the money to allow them to directly purchase the membership for their account.

 

 

 

Go under Customer Support, Billing, then FAQs in the KB. I guess what you were talking about was the second part, but once again...

And if you can't pay Jagex $5 a month, then how can you pay your friend?

Explain that. And some people would rather spend their money on food, water, gas, rent, etc. Necessities. Not a game. Although $5 a month should be left over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Once again, random event items is one of the main things behind this thread. Jagex adds more random event (items), which F2P can't store. And they can't sell it. And can't get it back without getting the event again. If Jagex makes random event items able to get back, it would give experienced F2Pers, who need this update most, more than 10 spaces.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And, once again, I will repeat what I have 3(?) times. JAGeX DOESN'T VIEW F2P AS A SMALLER GAME, THEY VIEW IT AS A TRIAL FOR MEMBERS. GIVING YOU MORE ITEMS IS JUST THEM PUSHING YOU TO GET MEMBERS.

 

 

 

If Jagex really wanted to push them to get members, they'd do something else. There are many other techniques to get more P2Pers. But I guess what you're saying in this part is kind of true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rose

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

 

 

penguingeek3 I decided to read the post you made at the top of the page. Review page 37 and I think 36 for your answers, don't just start debating a point when it's been disproven.

 

 

 

The post on page 38? To summarize that post up...

 

 

 

I'm a member, I got bankspace last week.

 

 

 

I never said a bunch of money from F2P.

 

 

 

Potential loss is bad for Jagex, not giving F2P sensible updates will result in potential loss.

 

 

 

Strange English.

 

 

 

More potential loss.

 

 

 

I'm not a snob.

 

 

 

None of that was covered in the past few pages. I guess the potential loss has been touched on, but not that much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically Rose, I'm not "hating" you as much now. You've relatively calmly told me some points you thought weren't true and were wrong. That always helps while arguing. (Kind of irrelevant, but who cares. You were irrelevant, now it's my turn.)

Are you blind or something? Just to make sure you can see...I am a member!

 

 

 

Yes... I realise this... good for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The need/deserve thing:

 

 

 

You say F2P need bankspace, but don't deserve it. Unless you really are that stupid, you'd be able to see that your statement contradicts your self. Maybe not completely, but a little. How does F2P not deserve bank space? Yes, they don't directly pay. But they indirectly give Jagex money through advertisements. They don't give as much as members, but they give enough to support F2P servers as I am told.

 

 

 

If they make enough to support F2P servers, then all they deserve (at the very most) is to have F2P servers. Aside from that, did you not understand my previous point about advertising? I'll recap for you:

 

 

 

Do you think that ANYONE who views or clicks the advertisements is thinking "I'll help out jagex by doing this"? No. It's just a bonus for Jagex. You think by viewing the advertisments, which F2P have to anyway, that gives them the right to demand more from the game?

 

 

 

Once again, I bring up a point I made a few pages ago:

 

 

 

If F2P do not deserve bank space/updates, then why the heck have F2P gotten updates this year? Two weeks ago, they got one!

 

 

 

Jagex doesn't want F2P getting bored? Just because you're given something, doesn't mean you deserve it. Stop making crossed connections like this. Neither needing something nor getting something necessarily mean you deserve it. That, my friend, is a very warped perspective.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, if they were going to become members, it's only logical that they'd become members rather than quit the game, no?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did I ever say they were going to become members? I said they COULD. Once again, you prove your English isn't too good. COULD is different than WILL.

 

 

 

And if they COULD but WILL NOT, then it's there's NO POTENTIAL LOSS! Like you said, there's only potential loss if potential members quit.

 

 

 

The amount of F2P players that will quit because of bank space obviously isn't a lot. But the amount of F2P players that will quit because they aren't getting ANY sensible updates will be a lot.

 

 

 

Great, more speculation. You have no idea how many players will quit due to no updates.

 

 

 

Why? F2P gets boring after a while if you don't have anything new to do. That's why I became a member, I was really bored with F2P, and I had resorted to doing some strange merchanting game I found on these forums. If people get bored, they usually will quit whatever they're doing. In this case, that's RuneScape.

 

 

 

So I suppose you took the unusual path and became a member rather than quitting?

 

 

 

Once again I'd like to point out that if they're going to become a member they'll most likely subscribe rather than quit. If they were ever going to become a member, does it not figure that they will subscribe when they don't want to play F2P anymore? Otherwise, we've got F2Pers subscribing when they're satisfied with F2P... but... why would they become a member if they're happy with F2P...? ;-)

If they make enough to support F2P servers, then all they deserve (at the very most) is to have F2P servers. Aside from that, did you not understand my previous point about advertising? I'll recap for you:

 

 

 

Do you think that ANYONE who views or clicks the advertisements is thinking "I'll help out jagex by doing this"? No. It's just a bonus for Jagex. You think by viewing the advertisments, which F2P have to anyway, that gives them the right to demand more from the game?

 

 

 

F2P does support the game. Just not directly like members accounts. The ads as well as f2p are both importent in the success of RS. Not just a "bonus".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Adding bankspace will just improve the game overall. as I said before. Theres no reasonable explenation to be against this idea. Or at least I havnt heard one so far.

 

 

p0nd3r4: Mind telling us why they have to pay to get bank space?

 

 

 

Aaron4: Nice to see you actually sort of support this now.

 

 

 

Rose_2_Pure: Many people have "argued". They've all been stopped, and some "converted" to "our side". And look at what Aarone said about "muling".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mind telling us why you should get Bank Space?

 

 

 

How about reviewing the first post?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I've disproven those, try bringing new points?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prices are set by every buyer and seller in RuneScape. The majority of those buyers/sellers are F2P. So F2P DO affect the economy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been F2P for a while now and I can't remember (The last time?) I saw an F2P'er buying Yew Logs, large amounts of Ores, or Essence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I meant the last time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are almost always P2P'ers in F2P. And as I said ALREADY, if P2P'ers couldn't buy from F2P'ers we would have people in P2P which would do the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Irrelevant. I wasn't saying that P2P trade with F2P. I was saying F2P trade amongst themselves, and that affects the economy. You might have said something about this already, my bad if you did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

F2P trading with themselves affects only the F2P economy. Not the economy as a whole. And for that to take a effect it would have to be incredibly expensive trade without rares.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And have you ever thought Bufoman doesn't know English too well? Would you be able to type in Romanian perfectly? Of course not, unless you know it well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, my bad, I thought this was a english-speaking forum.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

English speaking? Yes. Having everyone type in perfect English, even if they're from some non-English speaking country? No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest if you can't speak or write the language then maybe you shouldn't be trying to speak or write it until you have it down. I'm conversational in Russian but I'm not going to type a message to someone with horrible grammar. I'm going to take time to look over my post. And if he for some reason can't do that then there are multiple browsers which have a spell-check.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can ask a friend to pay it for you as long as you give him/her 5$ a month.

 

 

 

I'm not sure where it says, but only family members can pay for membership. And if you can't pay Jagex $5 a month, then how can you pay your friend?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't think making $5.00 was very hard, you really can do ANYTHING to make money. And if your not sure where it says only family members may pay for membership then don't post it until you have signifigant proof.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can only do this if the person you are paying for is a member of your immediate family. This is necessary to help us detect fraud. Ignoring this warning could result in any associated accounts being banned.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you wish to purchase membership for someone outside of your family, we recommend you give them the money to allow them to directly purchase the membership for their account.

 

 

 

Link

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess what you were talking about was the second part, but once again... If you can't pay Jagex $5 a month, then how can you pay your friend? Explain that. And some people would rather spend their money on food, water, gas, rent, etc. Necessities. Not a game. Although $5 a month should be left over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If your poor enough so that you can't have time or money to spend then you should be working more, not playing games.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Once again, random event items is one of the main things behind this thread. Jagex adds more random event (items), which F2P can't store. And they can't sell it. And can't get it back without getting the event again. If Jagex makes random event items able to get back, it would give experienced F2Pers, who need this update most, more than 10 spaces.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And, once again, I will repeat what I have 3(?) times. JAGeX DOESN'T VIEW F2P AS A SMALLER GAME, THEY VIEW IT AS A TRIAL FOR MEMBERS. GIVING YOU MORE ITEMS IS JUST THEM PUSHING YOU TO GET MEMBERS.

 

 

 

If Jagex really wanted to push them to get members, they'd do something else. There are many other techniques to get more P2Pers. But I guess what you're saying in this part is kind of true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Erm.. No, that is the perfect way of pushing them towards P2P without making it blatantly obvious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

 

 

penguingeek3 I decided to read the post you made at the top of the page. Review page 37 and I think 36 for your answers, don't just start debating a point when it's been disproven.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never said a bunch of money from F2P.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Huh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Potential loss is bad for Jagex, not giving F2P sensible updates will result in potential loss.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I rarely play RS anymore, but I have a Red, and a White PartyHat, a long with a large sum of GP. Hell, I'll send you real life money if you find ten F2P'ers including or excluding yourself who truly quit and will not play again because JAGeX didn't give the free version of RuneScape updates.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Strange English.

 

 

 

?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

More potential loss.

 

 

 

Uh..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not a snob.

 

 

 

Didn't say you were.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

None of that was covered in the past few pages. I guess the potential loss has been touched on, but not that much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Erm...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rose

Yes, I've disproven those, try bringing new points?

 

 

 

Uh...no you haven't. Why do you claim you disprove something when you haven't?