So My Views Aren't Right?

[How2PK]

Not going to say what view is 'right' or 'wrong'. But what do you expect these people to say when you say your view? That they suddendly agree? I don't see what's wrong with them telling you that they don't agree with you.

[wakka102]

dude I totally agree with you, whenever I say something about religion people just take shots at my beliefs. Athiesm is just as much od a religion as christianity so they need to respect my beliefs too. If they dont I can give them a hard time about it and I have. I've never lost an arguement over religion because its impossible too, theres no proof what so ever to back up what the bible claims, even the origin of hte bible cant be proven. Its a bunch of pooie.

 

 

 

If you respect my religion I'll respect your's if you dont respect mine then we have problems.

[Barihawk]

dude I totally agree with you, whenever I say something about religion people just take shots at my beliefs. Athiesm is just as much od a religion as christianity so they need to respect my beliefs too. If they dont I can give them a hard time about it and I have. I've never lost an arguement over religion because its impossible too, theres no proof what so ever to back up what the bible claims, even the origin of hte bible cant be proven. Its a bunch of pooie.

 

 

If you respect my religion I'll respect your's if you dont respect mine then we have problems.

 

 

 

I will respect yours when you stop lying about mine.

 

 

 

There are hundreds of thousands of documented evidence verifying events, locations, authors, and dates recorded in the Bible...even such outlandish events such as the destruction of Sodom and Gamorrah.

 

 

 

I can reccomend a number of books to you giving hardline evidence. There is nothing to prove 100% the Bible is true, but there is much more evidence than just about any other scientific theory or religion. (when I say that, i am referring to both the Jewish and Christian faiths.)

[Guest GhostRanger]

Athiesm is just as much od a religion as christianity so they need to respect my beliefs too.

 

 

 

I agree that people should respect your beliefs, but it's not because atheism is just as much of a religion as Christianity. Atheism is the absence of religion, or of belief in a supernatural force, whereas religion is the acceptance of a supernatural force.

 

 

 

If you want to be an atheist, go for it. But do know that you don't have a religion.

[bjbj1991]

I believe that all religions where created by man to serve several purposes. I am too lazy to look for an answer, I am afraid of death, I see dumb people with money, and how the heck do I control all these people?

 

 

 

Even if there is a god, I dont see any reasion why they should act like most religions deplict.

[malo2]

Thats just how people are raised, their parents tell them all about christianity when theyre too young to question, and they will belive in it for life.

 

 

 

When ever i tell people that Im athiest, they look at me like a murderer or something, they just wont accept an answer like "i have never been given any proof of god or any other things you belive in", thats just how ignorant most religious people are. Theyre right no matter what, and will fob off anyone who wants proof.

[Guest GhostRanger]

Thats just how people are raised, their parents tell them all about christianity when theyre too young to question, and they will belive in it for life.

 

 

 

Off the top of my head I can think of 10 or 15 people my age who converted to a number of different religions late in life (Christianity, Mormonism, and Islam) and my high school youth group was about 75% converts.

 

 

 

I do agree that some people are indoctrinated at a young age and never question it, but the fact that a very large number of people that aren't indoctrinated at a young age are still strong believers of whichever religion they choose to be a part of flies in the face of your theory.

[malo2]

well ofcourse if they werent introduced to it at a young age they will belive in whatever was introduced to them at a later age.

 

 

 

But then again, as people get older, they do start to doubt or atleast think about what has been taught to them. So they might actually weight their opinions on different religions, or better yet, actually think if theese religions are real or a bunch of bullcrap.

[Guest GhostRanger]

well ofcourse if they werent introduced to it at a young age they will belive in whatever was introduced to them at a later age.

 

 

 

But then again, as people get older, they do start to doubt or atleast think about what has been taught to them. So they might actually weight their opinions on different religions, or better yet, actually think if theese religions are real or a bunch of bullcrap.

 

 

 

So you're saying that you would believe whatever people introduce to you? Wouldn't everyone then convert to something eventually? How do atheists even exist using that logic?

[logic-is-overrated]

Just look at any dictator who doesn't have to answer to someone: he's a terrible, harsh, cruel person. Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, etc. Name a dictator who was a good person and you can prove me wrong.

What do you mean by terrible people. The fact that they killed people? The fact that they tortured people? The fact that they manipulated the public by controlling information that was released? Every one of these and probably every other attribute that you attach to them that makes them "terrible" are readily seen throughout the history of the Church. So obviously not having to answer to someone isn't what makes a person cruel, terrible, or whatever else you want to label someone.

[malo2]

well ofcourse if they werent introduced to it at a young age they will belive in whatever was introduced to them at a later age.

 

 

 

But then again, as people get older, they do start to doubt or atleast think about what has been taught to them. So they might actually weight their opinions on different religions, or better yet, actually think if theese religions are real or a bunch of bullcrap.

 

 

 

So you're saying that you would believe whatever people introduce to you? Wouldn't everyone then convert to something eventually? How do atheists even exist using that logic?

no im not saying that, read the last sentence.

[wakka102]

Thats just how people are raised, their parents tell them all about christianity when theyre too young to question, and they will belive in it for life.

 

 

 

When ever i tell people that Im athiest, they look at me like a murderer or something, they just wont accept an answer like "i have never been given any proof of god or any other things you belive in", thats just how ignorant most religious people are. Theyre right no matter what, and will fob off anyone who wants proof.

that took the words right out of my mouth, I couldnt put it any better then this from my perspective.

[Guest GhostRanger]

well ofcourse if they werent introduced to it at a young age they will belive in whatever was introduced to them at a later age.

 

 

 

But then again, as people get older, they do start to doubt or atleast think about what has been taught to them. So they might actually weight their opinions on different religions, or better yet, actually think if theese religions are real or a bunch of bullcrap.

 

 

 

So you're saying that you would believe whatever people introduce to you? Wouldn't everyone then convert to something eventually? How do atheists even exist using that logic?

no im not saying that, read the last sentence.

 

 

 

So what was the point of your first sentence? Do you not believe what you wrote?

[insane]

I still don't understand why everyone thinks it's science versus religion :?

 

 

 

The Bible = revelation about God.

 

Science = truths about the natural world.

 

 

 

How are these two relevant in any manner?

[wakka102]

I still don't understand why everyone thinks it's science versus religion :?

 

 

 

The Bible = revelation about God.

 

Science = truths about the natural world.

 

 

 

How are these two relevant in any manner?

its just a matter of creation and how the world works. Does god know everything we are going to do? did god create us? or was it all scientific. they sort of do conflict with eachother.

[woopidoo2]

God gave the choice to us, he wanted to let us decide if you want to believe in Him or not.

 

 

 

The Bible? The Ten Commandments? I don't believe it's mentioned anywhere he gave us that choice. Infact it's mentioned that those who don't believe in him will go to hell. And therefore the Bible creates an arguement of not having free religion, or is frowning down upon it.

 

 

 

It is mentioned in the bible.

[Guest GhostRanger]

I still don't understand why everyone thinks it's science versus religion :?

 

 

 

The Bible = revelation about God.

 

Science = truths about the natural world.

 

 

 

How are these two relevant in any manner?

its just a matter of creation and how the world works. Does god know everything we are going to do? did god create us? or was it all scientific. they sort of do conflict with eachother.

 

 

 

Or did God create science since science is merely understanding truths about the natural world?

[Not]

People have told me that I am "annoyingly quiet", which I would probably have to agree with them on. Often times I just keep quiet not to offend people by telling them off on their views, I figure it's the nicest thing I can do. I'm thinking about being more outspoken about my views, my family doesn't know I'm an athiest.

 

 

 

Your views might not be right for others, just like others views wouldn't be right for you.

[insane]

I still don't understand why everyone thinks it's science versus religion :?

 

 

 

The Bible = revelation about God.

 

Science = truths about the natural world.

 

 

 

How are these two relevant in any manner?

its just a matter of creation and how the world works. Does god know everything we are going to do? did god create us? or was it all scientific. they sort of do conflict with eachother.

 

 

 

Or did God create science since science is merely understanding truths about the natural world?

 

 

 

Precisely what I believe. You believe in the Big Bang? That's cool, I believe in the Big Bang too - I just so happen to believe it is more logical that an intelligent supreme being created the Big Bang rather than some raondom spontaneous explosion causing a perfectly functioning complex universe.

 

 

 

Again, the Bible is not a science textbook; so don't put it against a science textbook and say science wins - it's like comparing apples and oranges and saying the orange wins for the most vibrant orange colour.

[wakka102]

If i were to believe in a supirior being it would be aliens. Like another being from another planet far far away put us here for reasons unknown to us. That sounds more logical then some dude that lives in a place called heaven. Maybe heaven is a planet and god is an alien? lol

[Guest XplsvBam]

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

 

 

 

It is impossible for something to come from nothing. All the remains is that it was created. No matter how improbable, it must be the truth.

[Oy_the_Great]

I still don't understand why everyone thinks it's science versus religion :?

 

 

 

The Bible = revelation about God.

 

Science = truths about the natural world.

 

 

 

How are these two relevant in any manner?

its just a matter of creation and how the world works. Does god know everything we are going to do? did god create us? or was it all scientific. they sort of do conflict with eachother.

 

 

 

Or did God create science since science is merely understanding truths about the natural world?

 

 

 

Precisely what I believe. You believe in the Big Bang? That's cool, I believe in the Big Bang too - I just so happen to believe it is more logical that an intelligent supreme being created the Big Bang rather than some raondom spontaneous explosion causing a perfectly functioning complex universe.

 

 

 

Again, the Bible is not a science textbook; so don't put it against a science textbook and say science wins - it's like comparing apples and oranges and saying the orange wins for the most vibrant orange colour.

 

 

 

Well, I think the Big Bang actually is just one of the countless Big Bangs there ever have been. I like to believe that there never was a beginning and there never will be an ending to the universe. And with 'universe' I don't just mean all stars, planets and other matter, I mean everything there is. It just seems very right that whenever a galaxy is formed, thousands of the trillions of planets are planets that are suitable for life, whether it is intelligent, barely evolved or just single cellular creatures.

 

We live on one of the most miraculous planets there are and because of the perfect harmony between life and the Earth (well, we're ruining it, but eventaully, the harmony will be restored) life has been able to evolve to what we are now.

 

I have a lot of respect for everyone that holds on to true and good beliefs, but I always sigh whenever people claim God created the Earth a few thousand of years ago. I know you don't Insane, you believe in pretty much the same thing as I do, because I too am confident that a higher power exists. But how can people ever be scientists when everything is determined by God anyway? One might just as well say that everything I type here is planned in God's great schedule. Which I seriously doubt. Right, God?

 

 

 

btw, beautiful new sig Not!

[Guest XplsvBam]

I still don't understand why everyone thinks it's science versus religion :?

 

 

 

The Bible = revelation about God.

 

Science = truths about the natural world.

 

 

 

How are these two relevant in any manner?

its just a matter of creation and how the world works. Does god know everything we are going to do? did god create us? or was it all scientific. they sort of do conflict with eachother.

 

 

 

Or did God create science since science is merely understanding truths about the natural world?

 

 

 

Precisely what I believe. You believe in the Big Bang? That's cool, I believe in the Big Bang too - I just so happen to believe it is more logical that an intelligent supreme being created the Big Bang rather than some raondom spontaneous explosion causing a perfectly functioning complex universe.

 

 

 

Again, the Bible is not a science textbook; so don't put it against a science textbook and say science wins - it's like comparing apples and oranges and saying the orange wins for the most vibrant orange colour.

 

 

 

Well, I think the Big Bang actually is just one of the countless Big Bangs there ever have been. I like to believe that there never was a beginning and there never will be an ending to the universe. And with 'universe' I don't just mean all stars, planets and other matter, I mean everything there is. It just seems very right that whenever a galaxy is formed, thousands of the trillions of planets are planets that are suitable for life, whether it is intelligent, barely evolved or just single cellular creatures.

 

We live on one of the most miraculous planets there are and because of the perfect harmony between life and the Earth (well, we're ruining it, but eventaully, the harmony will be restored) life has been able to evolve to what we are now.

 

I have a lot of respect for everyone that holds on to true and good beliefs, but I always sigh whenever people claim God created the Earth a few thousand of years ago. I know you don't Insane, you believe in pretty much the same thing as I do, because I too am confident that a higher power exists. But how can people ever be scientists when everything is determined by God anyway? One might just as well say that everything I type here is planned in God's great schedule. Which I seriously doubt. Right, God?

 

 

 

btw, beautiful new sig Not!

 

Location: Sheltered in the palm of the creator.

[malo2]

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

 

 

 

It is impossible for something to come from nothing. All the remains is that it was created. No matter how improbable, it must be the truth.

 

the big bang is not impossible untill its proven impossible. So far scientists have "fossil" evidence and evidence of all sorts proving the big bang to be real, its just not 100% certain. Wikipedia for more.

[Guest XplsvBam]

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

 

 

 

It is impossible for something to come from nothing. All the remains is that it was created. No matter how improbable, it must be the truth.

 

the big bang is not impossible untill its proven impossible. So far scientists have "fossil" evidence and evidence of all sorts proving the big bang to be real, its just not 100% certain. Wikipedia for more.

The Big Bang Theory- Single point infinitely small and infinitely massive. Since it is impossible for anything in our universe to be 1-dimensional the Big Bang Theory is false.