Ok, another unanswerable question

[hellbellz]

Well since no one likes beavis and butthead, I decided to change it to this:

 

 

 

A blind man asks his friend "What do colors look like? I want to see what purple, green, red all the colors, just not this blank darkness"

 

"Well, I can't explain it" Says the friend.

 

"Yes you can, it should be easy, you see them everyday, all the time"

 

"Well, I CAN'T, I'm sorry." Says the friend in a firm, but nice way.

 

 

 

Can you explain the colors for the blind man?

 

 

 

Because I know I sure as hell can't :-k

[monkey_933]

Hell yeah count me in. Started watching it with my friend, lmao love that show.

 

 

 

It's literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen. But it's hilarious. Reminded me of me and my friend. :P

[hellbellz]

What show? :?

[knives669]

Well, if I was to try and explain colors to a blind person, I'd start by telling them the emotions that certain colors evoke. Such as red is excitement and also a warm color, while blue is calming and a cool color.

[xevanx]

I love trying to think of other colours, liek ya knwo how nobody knwos what colours dino's are, imagine a completely different unknown colour to the human eye on a dino. its driving me up the wall.

 

 

 

and to answer your question..it looks like blue. and if he was blind he would know what black is, so i would tell him that its a lighter shade of darkness.

[hellbellz]

I love trying to think of other colours, liek ya knwo how nobody knwos what colours dino's are, imagine a completely different unknown colour to the human eye on a dino. its driving me up the wall.

 

 

 

and to answer your question..it looks like blue. and if he was blind he would know what black is, so i would tell him that its a lighter shade of darkness.

How exactly would he know shades? :-w

 

Yeah, I get that, too, about dinosaurs, what other color could there be? :x

[Greatsilverwyrm]

There are no unknown colors. All colors that exist or have ever existed, as far as humans are concerned, fall within the extreme red and extreme violet. This is called the visible spectrum, and it literally encompasses all colors we can see.

 

 

 

You can't fully explain colors to a blind man, because he doesn't know sight. If I were to explain it I would simply say that it's a property of objects, similar to what they feel like, or what they sound like. That's really as far as he can understand it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If we're going to do philosophical debates, lets do interesting ones.

[Pandaman115]

what other color could there be? :x

 

 

 

Panda-opolis.

[hellbellz]

Whaa? Panda-opolis?

[Seahawk10490]

Actually there are colors that may not be visible to the eye or scientific equipment. Color, or images, being trasmitted thourgh space take trillions of years to reach us. The possiblity of another existence could possibly mean new colours.

[falconice]

I remember reading "The Giver" in 7th grade or something. the guy sees colors for the first time. he caught a glimpse of a red apple. yet when he tried to explain red to others, he couldn't.

 

 

 

people who have never experienced colors can not be able to comprehend it.

 

 

 

though... in one book i read, they had a nice explaination. something about blue being the calm before a storm. something something. i completly forgot. but it was like comparing colors to certain emotions/scenarios. i thought it was pretty neat.

[Greatsilverwyrm]

Actually there are colors that may not be visible to the eye or scientific equipment. Color, or images, being trasmitted thourgh space take trillions of years to reach us. The possiblity of another existence could possibly mean new colours.

 

 

 

Our eyes cannot pick up color that isn't in the visible spectrum. Due to the nature of what a spectrum is, we know all colors that exist within that spectrum.

 

 

 

Anything else isn't a color by definition, becaue humans can't see it. However there's a huge possibility other things exist that other species may consider something akin to what we consider color.

[hellbellz]

So, if there was something, we couldn't see it, but we would feel it, making it invisible? :shock:

[Seahawk10490]

No,

 

If there was another color, which is impossible,in theory, to imagine, it would most likeley be viewed from light beams projected from some other point of exsistence. But that colour would be ancient histopry by the time we saw it. So, in theory, we can view the past.

[hellbellz]

No,

 

If there was another color, which is impossible,in theory, to imagine, it would most likeley be viewed from light beams projected from some other point of exsistence. But that colour would be ancient histopry by the time we saw it. So, in theory, we can view the past.

True, so true. OMG, I can tell you what happned the past... kah bah gee!!(It's what I say when I'm pretty excited :wink:)

[mad4u689]

Mmm, qualia :D

[runesmithie]

Actually there are colors that may not be visible to the eye or scientific equipment. Color, or images, being trasmitted thourgh space take trillions of years to reach us. The possiblity of another existence could possibly mean new colours.

 

 

 

Our eyes cannot pick up color that isn't in the visible spectrum. Due to the nature of what a spectrum is, we know all colors that exist within that spectrum.

 

 

 

Anything else isn't a color by definition, becaue humans can't see it. However there's a huge possibility other things exist that other species may consider something akin to what we consider color.

 

 

 

Psh, whats that color my microwave turns when I start it up then? :P

[Anesthesia]

There are no unknown colors. All colors that exist or have ever existed, as far as humans are concerned, fall within the extreme red and extreme violet. This is called the visible spectrum, and it literally encompasses all colors we can see.

 

 

 

What about Hooloovoo?

[xxsheepxx]

I remember reading "The Giver" in 7th grade or something. the guy sees colors for the first time. he caught a glimpse of a red apple. yet when he tried to explain red to others, he couldn't.

 

 

 

people who have never experienced colors can not be able to comprehend it.

 

 

 

though... in one book i read, they had a nice explaination. something about blue being the calm before a storm. something something. i completly forgot. but it was like comparing colors to certain emotions/scenarios. i thought it was pretty neat.

 

 

 

Yeah, i remember reading that in 7th grade too.

 

 

 

Colors are too confusing! AARRGGHHH

[menot]

No,

 

If there was another color, which is impossible,in theory, to imagine, it would most likeley be viewed from light beams projected from some other point of exsistence. But that colour would be ancient histopry by the time we saw it. So, in theory, we can view the past.

 

 

 

 

 

well strictly, since all light takes SOME time to reach us, we are always viewing the past... its just a question of how far in the past do you want to actually call the past rather than the present.

[Tigra00]

There are no unknown colors. All colors that exist or have ever existed, as far as humans are concerned, fall within the extreme red and extreme violet. This is called the visible spectrum, and it literally encompasses all colors we can see.

 

 

 

You can't fully explain colors to a blind man, because he doesn't know sight. If I were to explain it I would simply say that it's a property of objects, similar to what they feel like, or what they sound like. That's really as far as he can understand it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If we're going to do philosophical debates, lets do interesting ones.

 

 

 

About a year ago they discovered a new shade of black that absorbs something like 97% of all light, where-as normal "black" absorbs something like 93%. :P

 

 

 

To explain colors to a blind man is just like explaining colors to a man who can see. People take colors for granted and if you asked most people how colors get the color they are, they'd shrug. It all has to do with how much light is absorbed or reflected due to the pigment in it and la-de-da. Lots of science in that stuff. :P One could argue that there are no actual colors and that the human mind just see's the light reflected/absorbed and our brain turns it into a color based on that, but I couldn't say how true that is. I just remember reading a bunch of stuff on colors a while back...Bit rusty, I am.

[issy2]

Describing a colour to a blind man - you never would get the correct definition across, would you? It's like trying to explain music to a deaf person, or dancing to a paralysed person. It's impossible, because senses are personal.

 

Surely, with 'colours we haven't discovered,' there ARE no colours we haven't discovered. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it stands to reason, doesn't it? Colour is natural, we view it in everything around us, and we can experience and imagine every different colour in our minds. Well, that's what I think anyway...

 

 

 

Oh yeah, and with the 'seeing past-present stuff' when you stargaze etc, you're watching the light of stars that might not exist anymore, that you're watching milllions of years in the past? It seems so simple but it's actually quite freakyl... :uhh:

 

 

 

Try to imagine a new sense. :P

 

 

 

How come we see stuff in our heads? We don't have eyes in our heads, ears neither, so how can we 'imagine' sights and sounds? It's another question I've been pondering about yet no-one I know can answer it. When we see things in our imagination, inside our heads, are we conjuring memory, or fooling our vision? I don't think anyone will ever know...

[Uldric]

In the immortal words of Gary Larson:

 

 

 

Roses are red

 

violets are blue

 

that's what they tell me

 

because I'm blind.

 

 

 

Or would you prefer another unanswerable question:

 

 

 

Professor: "What if I remove a single molecule from the table? Is it still a table.?"

 

 

 

Class: "Yes."

 

 

 

Professor: "What if I keep doing that? One molecule at a time? When does the table stop being a table?"

 

 

 

Class: "Ooooooh."

 

 

 

Brian: "I'm gonna say when it falls over."

 

 

 

Professor: "That's not the point of the--"

 

 

 

Brian: "That's when it stops being a table."

 

 

 

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=060907 :lol:

[dusqi]

How come we see stuff in our heads? We don't have eyes in our heads, ears neither, so how can we 'imagine' sights and sounds? It's another question I've been pondering about yet no-one I know can answer it. When we see things in our imagination, inside our heads, are we conjuring memory, or fooling our vision? I don't think anyone will ever know...

 

 

 

fMRI studies of the brain show that the same brain areas are activated when we imagine things as when they actually happen... and since 'experiences' are just neurons in certain areas of the brain firing, you feel and see the same things as when you experience them.

 

 

 

 

 

Concerning colours, colour experience is partly down to something hard wired in your brain/eyes, since cross-cultural studies show that most people universally consider the focal point of colours (e.g. the best example of 'red') to be about the same amount of hue and value. Similarly, experiments show that children of 4 months have the same colour categories that we have.

 

 

 

Colour is also down to social factors though, since some cultures don't have seperate words for 'blue' and 'green', and for people who live in them, it is hard to tell the difference between the two colours.

 

 

 

Interestingly, the Dani of Papua New Guinea only have a colour term for 'light' colours, and one for 'dark' colours.

 

 

 

This doesn't really solve the issue as to how you'd explain colour to a blind man, but gives some general insight into 'normal' psychological perception of colour.

[darkmage099]

There are no unknown colors. All colors that exist or have ever existed, as far as humans are concerned, fall within the extreme red and extreme violet. This is called the visible spectrum, and it literally encompasses all colors we can see.

 

 

 

You can't fully explain colors to a blind man, because he doesn't know sight. If I were to explain it I would simply say that it's a property of objects, similar to what they feel like, or what they sound like. That's really as far as he can understand it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If we're going to do philosophical debates, lets do interesting ones.

 

 

 

About a year ago they discovered a new shade of black that absorbs something like 97% of all light, where-as normal "black" absorbs something like 93%. :P

 

 

 

 

Yes, but the shade of black has always been there and we've always been able to see it. We just couldnt distinguish the difference. Not that I'm arguing against yuo but I'm just pointing this out.