Nazgul740 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Anyway, I don't really know much about computers... My lil bro has been wanting one for like forever and since I have the opportunity and the cash I don't see why i shouldn't get him one... Sure my mom and dad will start shooting sparks at me but who cares.... I was thinking somthing like this http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-COMPAQ-N410C-ULTRA-LIGHT-1200MHZ-512MB-30GB-DVD-WIFI_W0QQitemZ220040099032QQihZ012QQcategoryZ140082QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Seems to be a nice computer, he loves playing runescape and so i'm trying to get him a wireless card... I need to keep the cash below 500$ as anything more will be just a tad too much :XD: Thoughts comments? New sigzor^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyber_demon12 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Well if your going to buy a computer, buy a good computer lol. Save up your money and buy an AlienWare. Its one of the best computers out there, so just give save up some cash and buy you an AlienWare and just give him your computer. But if you want to save some money, build your own computer or if you don't know how to build a computer, go to your local computer shop and price some stuff to make a good computer and have them build it for you, but having them build it for you might cost you more. If you are looking for a notebook, which i don't perfer you do because they are harder to update/upgrade them. Thanks Cyber_Demon12 Check Out Cyber Industries!! http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5386 ... tc9ad5.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonda Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 K... so the guy above me has no idea what he's talking about so don't bother listening to him. Your best bet is to build a computer, and honestly it isn't difficult at all so don't think you couldn't do it. If you don't want to build it, maybe you know a friend thats good with parts that could put it together for you, or in any case you could find a nerd in your area to do it for $20 or so. read this: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=516067 If building it yourself is out of the question, then theres still plenty of alternatives that don't cost $6000 for a $2000 rig. EDIT: This is the same bro the messed your internet? Pfftt. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyber_demon12 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Umm. Yes I do know what I am talking about. And you also said almost the same thing I did, so he should bother to look at my post... Thanks Cyber_Demon12 Check Out Cyber Industries!! http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5386 ... tc9ad5.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emiliochiquito Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 alenware is nowhhere near cheap lol im suggesting an acer good value for ur money. check out the acer veriton series i got one for about 250 us dollars nd its got an 80gig HDD 512 DDR ram. lk i sed freat vale for mony m8. - Looking for cb100+ PK Clan - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinslayer777 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Well, laptops are nice, but you'll need to decide if you want a Desktop or Laptop. I really would not recommend a laptop unless you found a miraculous deal. Laptops probably arent neccesary for a new user or young user like your brother and for the same money you can get a more powerful, and in fact reasonable, laptop. If you splurge up to 650 dollars i'd imagine something quite functional and maybe you can buy that for 500 by bargain hunting the peices on ebay. Building a computer is a scary adventure but it's worth it for value and for education. i got incredibly mad at everyone who told me this while i was looking for a new computer but...Rofl...I'm glad they did hammer it now. (It was worth it i feel...But then again..I did get super mad at everyone yelling at me to build it myself XD and i got scared a few times thinking i messed up.>But there is plenty of online help :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Firstly, find out what he'd be using for over the next few years - especially if you're going to build it yourself / together. And generally stay away from laptops. They're a pain to upgrade and wouldn't exactly be justified unless he was a college / uni student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashinred Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Umm. Yes I do know what I am talking about. And you also said almost the same thing I did, so he should bother to look at my post... Thanks Cyber_Demon12 Your done, You said something about Alien ware which is usally over 1000$, which means last time i checked, thats over the requirment of 500$. And the other guy said to build one, yet both of you wouldent point to where you got your great online help? you just dont remember or what? http://vashinred.googlepages.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazgul740 Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well, laptops are nice, but you'll need to decide if you want a Desktop or Laptop. I really would not recommend a laptop unless you found a miraculous deal. Laptops probably arent neccesary for a new user or young user like your brother and for the same money you can get a more powerful, and in fact reasonable, laptop. If you splurge up to 650 dollars i'd imagine something quite functional and maybe you can buy that for 500 by bargain hunting the peices on ebay. Building a computer is a scary adventure but it's worth it for value and for education. i got incredibly mad at everyone who told me this while i was looking for a new computer but...Rofl...I'm glad they did hammer it now. (It was worth it i feel...But then again..I did get super mad at everyone yelling at me to build it myself XD and i got scared a few times thinking i messed up.>But there is plenty of online help :) Yeah, i have a whole guide on how to build a computer and all that and the parts and such... Plus my older bro (lives outa the house now) used to build em... How much does the software (windows xp) cost though? I wouldn't mind buying the stuff but in the end would it be significantly cheeper? New sigzor^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runesmithie Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well, laptops are nice, but you'll need to decide if you want a Desktop or Laptop. I really would not recommend a laptop unless you found a miraculous deal. Laptops probably arent neccesary for a new user or young user like your brother and for the same money you can get a more powerful, and in fact reasonable, laptop. If you splurge up to 650 dollars i'd imagine something quite functional and maybe you can buy that for 500 by bargain hunting the peices on ebay. Building a computer is a scary adventure but it's worth it for value and for education. i got incredibly mad at everyone who told me this while i was looking for a new computer but...Rofl...I'm glad they did hammer it now. (It was worth it i feel...But then again..I did get super mad at everyone yelling at me to build it myself XD and i got scared a few times thinking i messed up.>But there is plenty of online help :) Yeah, i have a whole guide on how to build a computer and all that and the parts and such... Plus my older bro (lives outa the house now) used to build em... How much does the software (windows xp) cost though? I wouldn't mind buying the stuff but in the end would it be significantly cheeper? Get him hooked on linux young ;) An OEM license for XP Home I believe is around 90-100 USD I just posted something! ^_^ to the terrorist...er... kirbybeam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well if your going to buy a computer, buy a good computer lol. Save up your money and buy an AlienWare. This coming from the same guy that said PHP is faster that HTML. :lol: You get negative points just for telling him to buy the overpriced crap that is Alienware. Even if you aren't going to build it on your own, looking through the barebones kits and parts on Newegg is always a good place to start. It'll give you a good starting point to reference just how much you're spending. You can build yourself a rather nice computer for $500 now and it's pretty easy if you have a techie friend or family member to help you along. How much does the software (windows xp) cost though? I wouldn't mind buying the stuff but in the end would it be significantly cheeper? XP Home OEM disc - $89 plus shipping XP Home retail (The version you'd buy on it's own from a store) is $189, so yes it's significantly cheaper. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deloriagod Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well if your going to buy a computer, buy a good computer lol. Save up your money and buy an AlienWare. Its one of the best computers out there Yes, Alienware is nice but it's not worth the money you spend. The graphics card I have in mine cost $250 (it's in a laptop and I had it put it when I ordered the computer) and I could buy it at a local store for around $100. And I wouldn't put them near the best. They overcharge and have horrible customer service. Also the laptops overheat VERY easily. I actually have to be careful when playing games on higher setting because everything heats up so fast. Some games I can play for 6 hours without problems and others I can only get an hour out of before the computer needs to be shut off and left to cool. It literally gets so hot I've burnt my hand while playing games. If you're looking for a cheap, simple machine I suggest going to a local computer store and looking for an Emachine. They're fairly reliable computers and don't cost much. Aside from my current computer, Emachines are probably my favorite since I've had nothing but good luck with them. Internet Marketing For Newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinslayer777 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I found this very convienent :) A low-end buyers guide from anandtech. http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=2861 Maybe it'll prove helpful - it's fresh too! October 25th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbq_sauce Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Buy one of those crap dells and put some new stuff in it.. or take it apart and put it all in a cool case =] thats right, zoidnerd stole MY sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinslayer777 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Erm, i wouldnt recommend taking apart a dell - that's pointless :D. A cool case wont mean much and will take 100 dollars off the budget. Oh, and i dont think linux is so great for your brother, he'll probably be playing games for windows which are harder to play on linux? Well, dont swear me by that i dont know much about linux actually. XP home basic costs 80-90 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonda Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Buy one of those crap dells and ... take it apart and put it all in a cool case =] you couldn't even do that. Beside voiding the warrenty, they have their computers rigged with pullies and levers on the inside, making it difficult to do anything besides add more RAM. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futurama Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 just buy one about 1gb ram, 2400+ish processor, 256mb graphics and a decent soundcard, flatscreen monitor and a nice mouse and keyboard. its only a home pc, and you'll only be running home applications on it... id either build it or just buy one off ebay/overclockers :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 just buy one about 1gb ram, 2400+ish processor, 256mb graphics and a decent soundcard, flatscreen monitor and a nice mouse and keyboard. its only a home pc, and you'll only be running home applications on it... id either build it or just buy one off ebay/overclockers :)Probably be over $500, but on the other side, probably wouldn't have to upgrade for another few years at least. Cept for perhaps the CPU but that's trivial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito_Blade Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Sorry I cannot help you with this, not my forte. If you really are thinking about buying your brother a computer, I just wanted to say this: Good Job! I have seen very little evidence for generosity on this forum (I said "seen", that does not mean there isn't any) and this is wonderful. Probably the ONLY time I will ever use this smiley (frankly it looks stupid) but, :thumbsup: "We'll bring the sexy back to judging >_>." --Nadril Bleh, once I get off my lazy bum and go to Imageshack, there will be a picture here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomster Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 The answer is always "it depends". Laptops can be convenient, but are expensive for what they offer, and upgrades are also limited and expensive - most importantly, unless designed to accept a graphics upgrade, that would be impossible. For Desktops, the onboard graphics of current Nvidia and ATI chipset motherboards might just manage bottom level games performance, while the compatibility of Intel onboards is shaky. VIA and Sis, until very recently, did not have an onboard that could be considered up to date (eg. DirectX9 hardware) - not sure if either are actually in the market yet. NB. Even the best onboards are only an alternative to the very bottom end cards, even an Nvidia 7300GS or a Radeon 1300 would acrually out perform them, but onbaord is good as a "stopgap" instead of a card that would be certain to need replacing anyway for a higher level of performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Barebone kit's are the way to go IMO. What is he going to use this PC for exactly? I mean, is he only going to play runescape or is he going to play more demanding games? If your building one just for runescape/internet than you could build a really nice one for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Putter Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 If all he's doing is playing runescape, get him a Dell. No joke. Dell takes alot more flak than they should. Obviously you shouldn't buy from them if your trying to find a high-end system, but for something to play Runescape on, it's the best way to go. Far better than building your own. Reasons: 1) Reliable; good warranty. I've had several Dells now, never any problem with them. They don't crash too much, don't overheat, are extremely quiet. 2)Less hassle than building yourself: You don't have to find all the parts and figure out how to put them together. 3)Most likely it's going to come in cheaper than building your own. Check out this. $499, monitor/keyboard/mouse included. Plus you don't have to track down ultra-low end parts. For 100 dollars more, you can make it have a low end PCI card and 1gig of RAM. And here's the best part: No shipping. A lot of sites have huge costs for shipping, especially if you're getting it all coming separately. It's something a lot of people don't take into consideration. All that, and this is the perfect thing for if all he's going is Runescape/e-mail/internet/homework. Any light gaming will require atleast that extra $100. And this computer isn't really looking to the future, but as I said, for what you've asked, this is definately fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinslayer777 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hmm...In case it got shrouded with the (It's good :) flow of msgs i posted a link to Anandtech.com's low-end budget guide...It's a good read i'd look at it before deciding built-or-dell. I think if no monitor, mouse, or keyboard is needed...$500 dollars could get a reasonable computer. Well, maybe 600-700 would be more reasonable actually...650 if possible. You can go lower [500] if you dont plan on playing any games besides runescape such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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