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[RandomNumbers123]

ok this isn't against any rules, it says that its against the rules if it mods the Rs client for example like SS, but this is perfectly legal in every way, anyone saying this is illegal is saying tip.it is illegal because it has guides so it gives us an unfair advantage....

[D. V. Devnull]

Whether software this guy wants to produce is illegal or not is up for debate. There are two definitions of illegal here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The first definition is - is it against the rules of RuneScape? The answer is no, if the software does not interact with the RuneScape java coding. For example the skill calculators,

 

 

 

This first part has been covered too much. No further word is needed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The second definition is - is it illegal in the eyes of the law? The answer to this is a bit more difficult as it depends on what copyrights and patents Jagex have registered. For example things like producing an interactive map as suggested would probably break copyright laws as you would, in effect, be reproducing a large part of RuneScape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would strongly suggest that you look into the legal aspects before you start publishing any software that you produce.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry to be a party-pooper but these things have to be considered.

 

 

 

Regarding that second definition, it would only be illegal in the eyes of the law if yettti stole parts of the code used to handle/display/generate the map, as well as failed to put a copyright notice within the map program that the map data belongs to Jagex and their RuneScape program.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now if yettti produces entirely original code for handling/displaying/generating the map that only produced the same effect visually, and did not steal the actual code as written by Jagex, as well as made sure to put in a copyright notice that the map data belongs to Jagex and their RuneScape program, then he would not be in violation of any copyright laws.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In fact, yettti would be safely within the limits of "Fair Use" laws.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, if you notice, Jagex has put out a map that anyone can download and use, and for the most part, as they see fit for a reference to getting around, as long as they would not steal the ideas behind RuneScape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As a Late Note: As I have been typing this post, something RandomNumbers123 has noted says a lot very well. If something like this were illegal, then stuff like what RuneHQ and Tip.It provides would also be illegal, like the special calculators they provide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, enough of this. Back to the actual topic. What ideas can we give yettti for a nice piece of Non-"Rule Violating" software to develop?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mr. D. V. Devnull

[Dead_Dude4]

Off-Topic: Dead_Dude, is Icelandic similar to Norwegian? Is it like Swedish where the words are so similar to Norsk that one man could be speaking Norwegian and the other speaking Swedish and both could understand the other? Sorry, I've got a hunger for knowledge of languages, I'm studying German (and according to the CIA Factbook, Iceland happens to have wide spread German spoken there) and I was told by studying German and English (Native language) that learning Norwegian would become easier. Anything like that with Icelandic?

 

 

 

If you read 1000 year old Norwegain texts and compare to modern Icelandic, yes...

 

 

 

If you read modern Norwegain and compare to modern Icelandic, nope...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The norwegain, english, swedish and danish languages were originally the same "nordic" language. You guy's have changed the language over the years and "simplified" the language (and been effected by latin and french among other things). You (english) can't understand norwegains now even though the language has only changed over a thousand years. It's the same for Iceland, since Iceland is a island and hasn't been effected by other languages and therefor hasn't changed much over the past 1000 years (which is about as long as the country has excisted).

 

 

 

Iceland was mostly populated by norwegains (mostly males) and the irish (mostly females) and since there were more norwegains, their language became our language (so... Icelandic is 1000 year old english in a way :P).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While I could say "hann ÃÆÃâÃâá bÃÆÃâÃâók" in 3 diffrent ways "ÃÆÃâÃâá hann bÃÆÃâÃâók?" "bÃÆÃâÃâók ÃÆÃâÃâá hann", in english there would only be 2 ways to do this "he owns a book" "does he own a book?".

 

 

 

Anyways... it's like this in all Icelandic sentenses. I can decide how I want to order my words and it would either form a question or a sentense while in english and the other nordic languages, there's only one specific word order. We also have forms for each word, so I could say "gefa" in 30+ diffrent ways (give..) depending on time, sex (male, female or neither), form of the word (like if you are reffering to something or it's your item) and other stuff (gefa, gaf, gÃÆÃâÃâáfum, gefiÃÆÃâÃâð.... all the same word in diffrent forms).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could go on and on and on about the diffrences on the languages, but I won't bother writing much more (I'm in class atm :P).

[Zonorhc]

It's not so much his atrocious English that bothers me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's the fact that he doesn't seem to be able to type.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From my own experience with coding, unless you want to spend absolutely ages trawling through code correcting syntax errors, you're going to have to learn to type consistently and without missing letters or mixing up their order.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The other thing that bugs me is that, for a so-called competent programmer, he doesn't seem to have a clue of what he wants to actually do. Also, if I wanted a time-consuming project like this to succeed, I certainly wouldn't leave it in the hands of a 13-year-old of whose ability the only evidence we have is his own claims.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't put too much faith on this project. It could take several months at the very least to complete, seeing as how his prefered method of initial development seems to be to ask people to give him every idea they have and then have them all vote on it - on a forum. It's inefficient and, on the whole, a ridiculously stupid process.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want to develop ideas quickly and create modules from there, you should at least put together your own framework first and then ask about how you could improve it.

[D. V. Devnull]

If you want to develop ideas quickly and create modules from there, you should at least put together your own framework first and then ask about how you could improve it.

 

 

 

And sometimes you need an idea to help you get started with producing a framework in the first place to show to everyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'Nuff said. Now, can we please stop harassing this kid and give him thoughts and ideas? AT LEAST BE WILLING TO GIVE SOMEONE A CHANCE!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. Devnull

[tefda]

Thanks Dead_Dude :D

[no_username4]

Alright, here's my idea. A topographical map. It'd take fover to go through the whole runescape world to measure the altitude of every tile though.

 

 

 

Or howabout an auto calc. An app that looks up all skills of one player on the high scores table and auto displays them. Then you can type in the level requested of one skill and it displays all the required things. Or you could switch modes and enter in what you want to do and get your final lvl.

 

 

 

Basicall just a really thorough calculator.

[pfilc23]

I think an interactive world map for traveling would be cool. You click your current location on the map, then click where you'd like to go to. It then calculates the best/fastest way to get there. It would need to have settings that get saved for the traveling options you have (for example, if you have no law runes, you uncheck tele spells and it won't use them or if you haven't done the quest for spirit trees, uncheck them). The map would display walk/run routes in solid lines and teles in dashed lines.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck coding that :)

[yettti]

ye that sa good idear i can code it and its a option thats considerabal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

keep the idears coming

[ruthlover]

Maybe a spell checker?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course, you can type into Wordpad, spell check it, then copy and paste (copy and paste is the programmers best friend).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just think of it as similar to compiling....

[nikoli40]

What about a chatroom for each world? Just pick the world your in and your in a chatroom, it could be seperated into category's like, pking, clans, skilling, bored, different stuff like that.

[D. V. Devnull]

What about a chatroom for each world? Just pick the world your in and your in a chatroom, it could be seperated into category's like, pking, clans, skilling, bored, different stuff like that.

 

 

 

Uhm, wouldn't that need a matching chat server to do something like that? :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. Devnull

[aznmidget448]

a little blog like a journal or a little note pad on the side for your check lists aka something to write "chop 100 willows, go pking with ___ at 10" on...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, a map of not only the normal ground, but also the building levels, underground caves, etc. would be nice, although that would be a ton of work to find all that data.

[Esh]

How about a quest flow chart type of thing. Something that can pull your high scores and then high light the quests that you have the requirements to do. It would be setup in a manner so as you can easily see what the next quest is. You could also scroll over each and pull up the requirements and rewards for each quest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've done something similar in Excel but would need a lot more experience with either Excel or some programming language to get it to work like I'm talking about.