Who here is agnostic?

[Viktorkrum77]

 

 

 

 

Jedi? I never heard of such a religion. I was thinking Star Wars when I seen it. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...That's why it's called the Jedi religion and the followers designate themselves as 'Jedi Knights'. :lol:

 

 

 

Sarcasm, I hope?

 

 

 

No hope for you.

 

 

 

Wow . . .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My thoughts exactly...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go society! \ Way to make up your own religion and gain enough followers.

[rocketman089]

 

 

 

My thoughts exactly...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go society! \ Way to make up your own religion and gain enough followers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't you mean George Lucas?

[Viktorkrum77]

 

 

 

 

My thoughts exactly...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go society! \ Way to make up your own religion and gain enough followers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't you mean George Lucas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I don't think he was the one that got all the people to follow the religion. Just the movies and the books.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kind of like Star Trek actually.

[Evilperson]

I believe myself to be agnostic, mainly because I don't want to offend those R-Tard Christians who get offended when I say I don't believe in god. Although I consider myself to be agnostic/aetheistic, I would prefer Nihilism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been havin bouts of depression which induce me to think nihilistically.

[pompey_spud]

 

 

Jedi? I never heard of such a religion. I was thinking Star Wars when I seen it. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...That's why it's called the Jedi religion and the followers designate themselves as 'Jedi Knights'. :lol:

 

 

 

Sarcasm, I hope?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

do they have a wesbite? i wanna learn more =P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, i am a devout athiest, and proud :thumbsup:

[darkmage099]

a religion based on a movie....how sad is that.

[Faux]

I believe myself to be agnostic, mainly because I don't want to offend those R-[developmentally delayed] Christians who get offended when I say I don't believe in god. Although I consider myself to be agnostic/aetheistic, I would prefer Nihilism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been havin bouts of depression which induce me to think nihilistically.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think you're even more of a 'developmentally delayed' person if you don't even know what you believe in.

[cadburys_egg]

a religion based on a movie....how sad is that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that so different from Christianity being based on a book?

[pompey_spud]

 

a religion based on a movie....how sad is that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that so different from Christianity being based on a book?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the man is right, the bible is essentially a load of stories, as are all religious texts as a matter of fact, but anyhoo, this Jedi Cult is exactely the same (albeit slightly more sarcastic) asa modern version of Christianity. Just that people don't accept it. I don't think anyone will ever accept a new religion as people actually believing it and not doing it for attention.

[darkmage099]

 

a religion based on a movie....how sad is that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that so different from Christianity being based on a book?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The movie was made for entertainment! If they meant the Bible to be entertaining, they didn't do a very good job. So yes, it is quite different. I HIGHLY doubt the movie was based on any religious beliefs. People just made it into that.

[Satenza]

 

 

a religion based on a movie....how sad is that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that so different from Christianity being based on a book?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The movie was made for entertainment! If they meant the Bible to be entertaining, they didn't do a very good job. So yes, it is quite different. I HIGHLY doubt the movie was based on any religious beliefs. People just made it into that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even worse! Christianity was founded on not only a book! But a boring one!

[darkmage099]

 

 

 

a religion based on a movie....how sad is that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that so different from Christianity being based on a book?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The movie was made for entertainment! If they meant the Bible to be entertaining, they didn't do a very good job. So yes, it is quite different. I HIGHLY doubt the movie was based on any religious beliefs. People just made it into that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even worse! Christianity was founded on not only a book! But a boring one!

 

 

 

Lol, my point still stands though.

[Faux]

 

 

 

 

a religion based on a movie....how sad is that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that so different from Christianity being based on a book?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The movie was made for entertainment! If they meant the Bible to be entertaining, they didn't do a very good job. So yes, it is quite different. I HIGHLY doubt the movie was based on any religious beliefs. People just made it into that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even worse! Christianity was founded on not only a book! But a boring one!

 

 

 

Lol, my point still stands though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 morons and counting...

[insane]

 

 

a religion based on a movie....how sad is that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that so different from Christianity being based on a book?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the man is right, the bible is essentially a load of stories, as are all religious texts as a matter of fact, but anyhoo, this Jedi Cult is exactely the same (albeit slightly more sarcastic) asa modern version of Christianity. Just that people don't accept it. I don't think anyone will ever accept a new religion as people actually believing it and not doing it for attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Care to actually prove all this garbage you speak?

[Faux]

 

 

 

a religion based on a movie....how sad is that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that so different from Christianity being based on a book?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the man is right, the bible is essentially a load of stories, as are all religious texts as a matter of fact, but anyhoo, this Jedi Cult is exactely the same (albeit slightly more sarcastic) asa modern version of Christianity. Just that people don't accept it. I don't think anyone will ever accept a new religion as people actually believing it and not doing it for attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Care to actually prove all this garbage you speak?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What the hell man, didn't you know? People became Christians in the beginning cause it's cool. It's not like there was any risk of DYING involved. It was all about the attention.

[BlueLancer]

 

But biased statistics don't change the fact that Jedi is the 4th most popular religion in the UK. If the government wanted, they could intentionally leave out all christians, but that still wouldn't mean they aren't the most practiced religion in teh UK. 8-)

Please dont make up claims about statistical research. I don't like my job being made to look like a sham.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You miss my point. It doesn't matter they aren't officially listed somewhere, it still doesn't mean they don't exist. We can claim pineapples don't exist and their share in the market of fruits is 0%. It doesn't change the fact they exist and there is a certain amount of them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even if it is not official, Jedi is the 4th most popular religion in the UK no matter what an oracle database on an english computer says. 8-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And guys above... Hate to break it down to you, but the Bible is not really one unified book, nor was christianity founded on it. It's a collection of letters and scriptures that were eventually assembled in it's current form in about 300-400AD. But yes, some parts may be boring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is still a valid argument that most of modern christianity is based on the authority of a book, namely the Bible, and it does contain non-factual legendary elements just as Star Wars does, though it does also have historical undisputed events as well.

[Guest GhostRanger]

It is still a valid argument that most of modern christianity is based on the authority of a book, namely the Bible, and it does contain non-factual legendary elements just as Star Wars does, though it does also have historical undisputed events as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not a valid comparison because Star Wars was written as fiction for entertainment purposes - and even if you don't believe the Bible is true, its purpose in being written is completely different than Star Wars - and therefore that is a completely invalid comparison.

[emrea]

but ghost your going on the asumption that it is real surely then (the bible). Lets face it the bible is more than likley never gone to be fully proven or disproven, and that surely leaves it open as to how you would regards the purposes for which it was writen

[Guest GhostRanger]

but ghost your going on the asumption that it is real surely then (the bible). Lets face it the bible is more than likley never gone to be fully proven or disproven, and that surely leaves it open as to how you would regards the purposes for which it was writen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, I am not. The point I am making is that Star Wars - real or not - was not written with the intent to be real stories. The Bible - real or not - was written with the intent to be real. Therefore, one group is taking a self-declared fiction series and treating it as real - and another group is taking a series that is - at least - supposed to be real - and treating it as real.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comparing the two is completely ridiculous.

[adthegreat-]

I don't see how the intentions of the written text have anything to do with feasibility of it being real. If something is unable to be proved (existence of a supernatural being, existence of 'The Force') then they are both on the same level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Using your logic, if a follower of the Jedi religion were to re-write Star Wars selectively into a 'holy text' with the full intention and belief that they were writing the truth, would it then make it comparable with Christianity?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And if there was evidence that before the Bible was written, someone made a self declared fictitous story that was similar to the Bible, would it make Christians renounce their faith, because their good book was based on fiction?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is my opinion that because we cannot prove or disprove supernatural beings, religion's only purpose is to provide a set of morals by which we should our lives, and for the most part this is done well, and it doesnt matter where the message comes from, Luke Skywalker or Jesus Christ.

[petey]

I've been trying to get more involved in Christianity, and I just seem to not believe a lot of it. I wanted to, but I guess it's hard to believe it when you're not fully raised a Christian.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or when you have any shred of common sense left.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Me, 100% agnostic, i'm so glad im not of any religion, who could stand all that sucking up? eugh, thank god :roll:

[assassin_696]

I suppose i'm agnostic. To me organised relgion is simply a necessity in ancient society to have a common theme of worship to explain certain inexplainable things that's carried through to the modern day. I'm not denouncing anyone with a faith, in fact I have a lot of respect for them, but for me I see so many religions that have sprung up from, frankly, society, and they can't all be right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, I believe in an ultimate creator, in my mind there almost has to be to explain everything, it's simply too amazing to put down purely to our science. So yeah, I believe in a higher being outside our known universe. An afterlife? Maybe, who knows? We'll see.

[darkmage099]

I don't see how the intentions of the written text have anything to do with feasibility of it being real. If something is unable to be proved (existence of a supernatural being, existence of 'The Force') then they are both on the same level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Using your logic, if a follower of the Jedi religion were to re-write Star Wars selectively into a 'holy text' with the full intention and belief that they were writing the truth, would it then make it comparable with Christianity?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And if there was evidence that before the Bible was written, someone made a self declared fictitous story that was similar to the Bible, would it make Christians renounce their faith, because their good book was based on fiction?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is my opinion that because we cannot prove or disprove supernatural beings, religion's only purpose is to provide a set of morals by which we should our lives, and for the most part this is done well, and it doesnt matter where the message comes from, Luke Skywalker or Jesus Christ.

 

 

 

I'll let Brett handle this one...Plus, I think he is more knowledgeable than I am on these type of things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they were to rewrite it, it would still be based on a story that was made for entertainment.

[emrea]

ive gotta say i didnt make my point very well, but what i ment was that we cant prove the bible was written about actual events,or if it was just a nice collection of books written to amuse some romans, you completly overlooked what i said, and that was we dont know why, and for what purpose the bible was written, you cant overlook that and therefore have as much right to say that comparing the 2 is ridiculous, as you do to say that beckham cant kick a ball

[Futurama]

Words of a true genius, Kaizer Soz̮̩̉̉...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"I don't believe in god, but i'm afraid of him."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sums it up nicely for me; I don't believe in his existence and I don't follow christianity, but there's always that fear that he might just be there ready to smite your [wagon] down.