magekillr Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 what do you think about the United States drnking age of 21? personally i feel it does more harm than good and should be moved back down to 18 any1 else's opinion? (more detailed than mine please...i wanted to make this topic but it's late and i cannot express my true opinion hehe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus_Fighter Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 In aus it's 18.. Thank god, When can you drive in the US ?? Respect- Oy_the_Great, Lode, Bubsa, Weezcake, Thrash111, Gloric, Vmser, Pianofrieak2, Runemetsa Sigs Made By - Pink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrencekill Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Explain how it does more harm than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magekillr Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 When can you drive in the US ?? depends on the state i think...but in general we say "16" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Explain how it does more harm than good. Exactly. The "good" that comes from alcohol is extremely tough to measure. That bad said, the bad that comes from alcohol is easy to see/measure. Thus it's going to be hard to argue for alcohol being more beneficial than harmful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magekillr Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Explain how it does more harm than good. Although the legal purchase age is 21, a lot of younger people under this age drink alcohol, and too many abuse it. "forbidden fruit," if you will. two times the united states has tried to ban alcohol, both times resulted in more damaging results (thuse why the amendment was appealed) On the other hand, while fewer young people are drinking and their average consumption levels have been falling, more younger people tend to drink abusively when they do drink. This change occurred after the increase in the drinking age. lowering the age won't solve the problem, but lowering the drinking age would help send the important message that drinking is not evidence of maturity, but that responsible consumption for those who choose to drink is evidence of maturity. moderation > restriction now i gotta go to bed :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordjake Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Once you hit college, age doesn't really matter regarding alcohol. You go to a party, you can't really tell anyone's age except those who are buying the beer. I think they should keep it @ 21. I realize people will argue that you can get drafted into war at 18, but can't relax with a beer unless you wait a full 3 extra years, but drinking beer doesn't help support your country in times of need. Beer is a privilege, fighting for your country is a responsibility. (I didn't really mean this to be a war post, please don't quote me to argue about wars :oops: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Regardless of the legal age - people under it will always find a way to get it (same deal with cigarettes, there are kids in GRADE 8 AND BELOW) who get cigarettes and alcohol. And they're easily 5-6 years under the legal limit (18 in AU). However, putting it around 16/18 will curb the "rebelion" issue where people only drink / buy it. because it's illegal. The only problem I could see with it being lowered here in Australia is in regards to SChoolies. It gets bad when we get southern grad students coming up and congregating in the same place because they can all legally drink. And thousands of legals in the same place for a week drinking, not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak722 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Its 19 in most parts of Canada, but it Quebec its 18. Quite a few people living around McGill University have complained about drunken students wandering around after hours and vandalizing property lol. :-w The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 There are many 16 year olds with the emotional stability of a 3-year old. (Not all) They should have no reason to be allowed to drink, I think it's great the age limit is at least 18. Though, I think 21 is a bit extreme. People wont respect the restriction, nobody who is 20 and likes alcohol is going to be restricted by the fact he's "only" 20. A fair age for drinking would be 18, or better still, grant drinking licenses based on easy intelligence tests performed on young people. If they can't locate Canada on the map or answer "10 times 10 times 10 is 101010", they shouldn't be allowed to buy a drink that dumbs them down even further and they will just ruin their own lives with an alcohol beverage. Their place is back in elementary school instead of trying to act "adult" by drinking themselves until they puke and lose consciousness. What a way to destroy your brain cells and "socialize". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diminished2b Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Shouldn't be any laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak722 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Anarchists... -.- The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoteman Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I know exactly what you mean. I feel that teens only drink alchohol because it is forbidden and it is rebelious etc etc. In Italy and France, plus many other european countries, there isn't a legal age, anyone can drink anywhere. This means that kids don't see alchohol as we do, and there are extremly little, if any problem with binge drinking. Cigarrettes however, i can totally understand and agree with, they are life threatening, unlike alchohol, so there should definantly be a restriction on them. 21 is ridiculous imo, i reackon about 80% if not higher of my year 9 grade have drunken alchohol, and not like a sip from mum or dad's glass. Something should be done... RM "A disbelief in magic can force some poor souls into believing in authority and business" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 16 here in Holland for beer, wine, bacardi breezer etc. The lighter drinks. 18 for heavy drinks, vodka, rum etc. though basically everybody can get it in a bar. it was pretty funny BTW. My mate who is 20 years old went on vacation to America together with another friend (also 20) and during their two weeks they couldn't drink a beer. Because they weren't 21. :lol: On the last day one of the travel guys could sneak in a twelve pack. Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Its drinking culture thats the problem, not the age limit. 18 seems to be a good figure for drinking in pubs and buying alcohol provided that ID is required for anyone looking younger than 25 imo. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magekillr Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Its drinking culture thats the problem, not the age limit. 18 seems to be a good figure for drinking in pubs and buying alcohol provided that ID is required for anyone looking younger than 25 imo. compeltely agree...it's the culture the main issue here with me is...of course i can get it easily as a college student (i'm 18). but i don't like breaking the law even though i am responsible with it. when i ent out drinking at 18 i would always take the bus to and from to where i was going, and barely ever got so trashed that i couldn't understand what i was doing...that happened maybe once or twice. i like drinking casually. another bad thing is my parents found out that i consumed...and now my dad threatened that i don't have a place to stay during holiday if i continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Well, if we wanted it to be 18, we should've done it a long time ago. If the US all of a sudden changes it to 18, the teens would go crazy for the first couple of years. Everyone 18-20 year old would probably rush to the nearest liquor store or gas station. Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsakenMage Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 While the actual legal age is 21 in the US, there are some states which allow minors to drink under the supervision of someone who is legal (some are 16, some are 18), with the exception of religious practices. Personally I would rather have it stay at 21. I'm not old enough to drink, but after seeing others around me do it, and smelling it, I'm really not looking forward to trying it ever. =; Just keep that stuff away from me, thank ya. Adventurer's Log || YouTube || Facebook || Tip.it Times Work || Wanna Join the Editorial Panel?Maxed Out 01 October 2012 PDT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Another problem is - what percentage of sixteen and seventeen year olds are actually going to drink responsibly? Probably <1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megadedhed Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Another problem is - what percentage of sixteen and seventeen year olds are actually going to drink responsibly? Probably <1. I know ALOT of kids who are 13-16 and drink ALOT. Honestly its not good for them. but what i hate most is that they use the excuse of "im gay, its ok for me..." becuase supposedly, or health teachers taught us something about it being ok for you to drink if you are gay/bi. #-o (this is coming from a 16 year old gay guy right now) Sigs made by Runemetsa, Nuzza, Dark_Shadow, Kuroi and Me.liquid blobs attacking eachother American Anime... YAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTear Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I know exactly what you mean. I feel that teens only drink alchohol because it is forbidden and it is rebelious etc etc. In Italy and France, plus many other european countries, there isn't a legal age, anyone can drink anywhere. This means that kids don't see alchohol as we do, and there are extremly little, if any problem with binge drinking. Cigarrettes however, i can totally understand and agree with, they are life threatening, unlike alchohol, so there should definantly be a restriction on them. First of all, I don't think drinking culture is directly coorelated with legalized drinking. Taking away a ban is not going to make people binge drink less, because it's not going to change people's attitudes. Second of all, alcholo not being life threatening? Huh? -This message was deviously brought to you by: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrencekill Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Explain how it does more harm than good. Although the legal purchase age is 21, a lot of younger people under this age drink alcohol, and too many abuse it. "forbidden fruit," if you will. two times the united states has tried to ban alcohol, both times resulted in more damaging results (thuse why the amendment was appealed) On the other hand, while fewer young people are drinking and their average consumption levels have been falling, more younger people tend to drink abusively when they do drink. This change occurred after the increase in the drinking age. lowering the age won't solve the problem, but lowering the drinking age would help send the important message that drinking is not evidence of maturity, but that responsible consumption for those who choose to drink is evidence of maturity. moderation > restriction now i gotta go to bed :( Let's face the facts. Although age does not equal maturity, it is often a good indicator. For the first few years the '18' age drinking restriction is set in place, there would be tons of people drinking 18-20, like darkmage said earlier. Maturity affects how a person handles situations. Whether alchohol is legal or not, the amount of alchohol depends on a person's maturity and willpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katha610 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 16 here in Holland for beer, wine, bacardi breezer etc. The lighter drinks. 18 for heavy drinks, vodka, rum etc. though basically everybody can get it in a bar. same in germany. could be stricter controlls though when i stayed in the US there has been no problem in getting alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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