rocketman089 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 And don't you think that since we were made with the ability to eat meat, that we were actually meant to. if we were made with the ability to make nukes, were we meant to use nukes on other countries? That's the dumbest thing ive ever heard. Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadfdfd Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Honestly Thanksgiving is my least favorite holiday, mainly because the time of the year it falls on (arguably the worst time of the year) Haha, I just hate Winter... So you hate Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanzaa? (Pick the one that applies to you) Anyways, I am all for eating turkey for Thanksgiving. Like darkmage said, I think it's just the battle for life. I (personally) think that it's important for us to eat meat to keep ourselves healthy. I don't hate vegetarians because they don't hate meat...I hate Vegetarians because they are all "I eat healthier because I don't eat meat, so ha!" First of all, there are some nutrients that we need that come only in meats. "So, looks like today you are drinking fat, eating some more fat from that hamburger." Lol what about the vitamins/minerals/nutrients that you are leaving out that I'm eating and you are too "nutritious" to eat them. EDIT: if we were made with the ability to make nukes, were we meant to use nukes on other countries? I'm going to second that being the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The answer: Yes. They are meant to be used on other countries. What do you think we are going to do? Put them into orbit. The USA doesn't spend Billions of dollars on Nukes just to waste them. Trust me, they are for your defense, and if we didn't have them, (and a lot of them at that \ ), Iraq could probably be all over us now, but they are scared because we can send one little nuclear bomb over there and blow up their entire country. (I know this wouldn't happen [so you don't kill innocent people], but just putting it out there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poopingman Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Honestly Thanksgiving is my least favorite holiday, mainly because the time of the year it falls on (arguably the worst time of the year) Haha, I just hate Winter... So you hate Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanzaa? (Pick the one that applies to you) Anyways, I am all for eating turkey for Thanksgiving. Like darkmage said, I think it's just the battle for life. I (personally) think that it's important for us to eat meat to keep ourselves healthy. I don't hate vegetarians because they don't hate meat...I hate Vegetarians because they are all "I eat healthier because I don't eat meat, so ha!" First of all, there are some nutrients that we need that come only in meats. "So, looks like today you are drinking fat, eating some more fat from that hamburger." Lol what about the vitamins/minerals/nutrients that you are leaving out that I'm eating and you are too "nutritious" to eat them. EDIT: if we were made with the ability to make nukes, were we meant to use nukes on other countries? I'm going to second that being the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The answer: Yes. They are meant to be used on other countries. What do you think we are going to do? Put them into orbit. The USA doesn't spend Billions of dollars on Nukes just to waste them. Trust me, they are for your defense, and if we didn't have them, (and a lot of them at that \ ), Iraq could probably be all over us now, but they are scared because we can send one little nuclear bomb over there and blow up their entire country. (I know this wouldn't happen [so you don't kill innocent people], but just putting it out there) I don't know....Christmas kind of saves itself because..well, its Christmas, GIFTS! However, Thanksgiving is pretty uneventful. Metal fans, check out my band!Still the King.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Make7upu101 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Vegetarians eating healthier- the jury's still out. I don't give a crap either way if it hurts me or helps me to live for 100 more years, it's an ethical thing for me. It's hard for me to imagine why people people don't see it that way but I try and keep it to myself while still informing people of why I eat how I do. Why do I keep it to myself you ask? People blow up if a vegetatian trys to act like he's "above" you for eating meat. It's the same thing with christan people trying to convert others. The smart ones don't just go to you and say "you're going to hell for that unless you follow jesus." They inform you and explain why they believe the way they do. It would be great if we didn't have more vegetatian bashing here. We all know the stupid ones don't have the answers. I'm pretty pissed because I just realized I forgot to get one of those fake turkeys (I forget every year) and thanksgiving's tomorrow. I've always wanted to try one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the49ronin Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Woo-Hoo we Americans are celebrating when the Native Americans were kind enough to save our behinds causing us to repay them with wiping them out, making and breaking many treaties with them, force marching them over long distances, and stealing their land and crowding different tribes together on small pieces of land =D> [/sarcasm] <the49ronin> O_o methinks ard is acting mighty high and pretty -.- <Ard_Choille> I am pretty <Ard_Choille> fo shizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadburys_egg Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 if we were made with the ability to make nukes, were we meant to use nukes on other countries? I'm going to second that being the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The answer: Yes. They are meant to be used on other countries. What do you think we are going to do? Put them into orbit. The USA doesn't spend Billions of dollars on Nukes just to waste them. Trust me, they are for your defense, and if we didn't have them, (and a lot of them at that \ ), Iraq could probably be all over us now, but they are scared because we can send one little nuclear bomb over there and blow up their entire country. (I know this wouldn't happen [so you don't kill innocent people], but just putting it out there) ... I lol'd. There was never any hard evidence Iraq had WOMD. So how do you know that they'd be "all over you"? Besides, were nukes around in the World Wars? No... They put MEN into the battlefield, not just dropped a bomb and problem solved. The irony with human kind is that we are good at two things; Surviving and killing each other. The biggest problem with nukes is what you already said. If you were to use it to end/fight in a war, you'd take out countless innocent lives aswell. So what is the point of them? I doubt we'll ever know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 I'm going to second that being the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The answer: Yes. They are meant to be used on other countries. What do you think we are going to do? Put them into orbit. The USA doesn't spend Billions of dollars on Nukes just to waste them. Trust me, they are for your defense, and if we didn't have them, (and a lot of them at that \ ), Iraq could probably be all over us now, but they are scared because we can send one little nuclear bomb over there and blow up their entire country. (I know this wouldn't happen [so you don't kill innocent people], but just putting it out there) Rofl, Mike. They are there to flex our muscles. Just to show we are big and bad. Why did NK get nukes? Leverage! No one is going to use them unless it comes down to WW3 in which case it doesn't matter because we are all F'd in the A anyway. Yes we actually do spend money on nukes. If we don't use them, it's still not a waste. People THINK you are going to use them, but really, wearen't. You've got to be an idiot to use a nuke in a 1 v 1 war. I doubt Iraq ever even thought US would use a nuke on them for two reasons. 1. Iraq hadsn't done squat to America. They weren't even involved in 9/11. 2. Iraq knows that if a nuke is used, the whole world gets really pissed at America. Then, America is F'd in the A. Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4u689 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Vegetarians eating healthier- the jury's still out. I don't give a crap either way if it hurts me or helps me to live for 100 more years, it's an ethical thing for me. It's hard for me to imagine why people people don't see it that way but I try and keep it to myself while still informing people of why I eat how I do. Why do I keep it to myself you ask? People blow up if a vegetatian trys to act like he's "above" you for eating meat. It's the same thing with christan people trying to convert others. The smart ones don't just go to you and say "you're going to hell for that unless you follow jesus." They inform you and explain why they believe the way they do. It would be great if we didn't have more vegetatian bashing here. We all know the stupid ones don't have the answers. I'm pretty pissed because I just realized I forgot to get one of those fake turkeys (I forget every year) and thanksgiving's tomorrow. I've always wanted to try one. unfortunately, they're way expensive... not worth it unless you have a lot of people who will be sharing it :( (Btw, I am a vegetarian as well. I'm with you :D) Everybody hug and spread the love :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadfdfd Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 sorry, i'll rephrase, terrorist instead of iraq. :D Glad to give you guys a nice laugh. God Bless and Happy Thanksgiving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 i almost went vegetarian, but then i thought that id miss meat too much. it tastes great and its a good source of protein, vitamins, and minerals! (and fat lol) being vegetarian would be hard. VERY hard. i would never get to taste sweet, sweet ham and turkey!!! :( An Important Note To Vegetarians: Remember, vegetarians are missing out on lots of important vitamins and minerals, and vegetarians often feel sluggish and get tired easily. They are also prone to various diseases such as anemia, iron deficiency, peripheral neuropathy, and other nutritional deficiencies. BE CAREFUL!!! :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadfdfd Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Woo-Hoo we Americans are celebrating when the Native Americans were kind enough to save our behinds causing us to repay them with wiping them out, making and breaking many treaties with them, force marching them over long distances, and stealing their land and crowding different tribes together on small pieces of land =D> [/sarcasm] It's true. :lol: Think of all those times in the 18th century that we moved west right into native's land and pwned em with our Rocket Propelled Grenades (or guns, dunno?) \ . Jk, but we did take a lot of land, and break a lot of treaties from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4u689 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Remember, vegetarians are missing out on lots of important vitamins and minerals, and vegetarians often feel sluggish and get tired easily. They are also prone to various diseases such as anemia, iron deficiency, peripheral neuropathy, and other nutritional deficiencies. BE CAREFUL!!! :shock: Hmm. This happens not only to vegetarians, but to anyone who isn't being careful and watching their nutrition. If you take a vitamin supplement (there are vegan ones out there :D), and get enough calories, and eat a BALANCED DIET (no just eating pizza all the time!) you will likely be okay :D Everybody hug and spread the love :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Remember, vegetarians are missing out on lots of important vitamins and minerals, and vegetarians often feel sluggish and get tired easily. They are also prone to various diseases such as anemia, iron deficiency, peripheral neuropathy, and other nutritional deficiencies. BE CAREFUL!!! :shock: Hmm. This happens not only to vegetarians, but to anyone who isn't being careful and watching their nutrition. If you take a vitamin supplement (there are vegan ones out there :D), and get enough calories, and eat a BALANCED DIET (no just eating pizza all the time!) you will likely be okay :D It can be done, but it's quite difficult. The biggest challenges are (1) getting adequate and diverse sources of protein, and (2) getting adequate iron (some people aren't able to tolerate oral iron supplements). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Make7upu101 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 I said stuff unfortunately, they're way expensive... not worth it unless you have a lot of people who will be sharing it :( (Btw, I am a vegetarian as well. I'm with you :D) I hear they're also pretty crappy. I read they're dry and sometimes don't taste anything like turkey anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeroh Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 well, case closed. looks like TIF is mostly carnivores :wall: Happy Thanksgiving :thumbsup: Retired from runescape. I will be on every now and then though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperbabe701 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 I feel for you i get grossed out eating any kind of meat! I am not a full vegitarian but I do not eat red meat. I only eat white meat because i am young and my parents say i need the protian. We need to ask ourselves though what are we accoplishing killing all theses turkeys? *cough cough* They can't charge me for breaking into my own house *cough cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 I feel for you i get grossed out eating any kind of meat! I am not a full vegitarian but I do not eat red meat. I only eat white meat because i am young and my parents say i need the protian. We need to ask ourselves though what are we accoplishing killing all theses turkeys? what were accomplishing is food. survival of the fittest. nature intended for man to eat animals...its not like were all cannibals. were not accomplishing anything bad, either. theyll be plenty more turkeys - they're not extinct. \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedepressedsquirrel Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 I feel for you i get grossed out eating any kind of meat! I am not a full vegitarian but I do not eat red meat. I only eat white meat because i am young and my parents say i need the protian. We need to ask ourselves though what are we accoplishing killing all theses turkeys? You'll grow out of it. Most annoying people have a partial-vegan phase when they are young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4u689 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 I feel for you i get grossed out eating any kind of meat! I am not a full vegitarian but I do not eat red meat. I only eat white meat because i am young and my parents say i need the protian. We need to ask ourselves though what are we accoplishing killing all theses turkeys? You'll grow out of it. Most annoying people have a partial-vegan phase when they are young. Hey, not everyone grows out of it. I started at 12 and have stuck with it since :) (19 now) Hyperbabe - think about your reasons for wanting to vegetarian. If it really feels right for you, then go for it :D Just be careful (like other people have been saying) about getting enough protein, iron, and other nutrients. :D (Good sources of vegetarian protein include tofu, tempeh, seitan, and legumes :D) Everybody hug and spread the love :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrencekill Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 You make it sound like nourishing ourselves is a sin. Aren't carrots living things too? What's wrong with eating....Survival of the fittest. Go bother the lions that eat antelope all day. Comon, don't you want to convince lions to eat vegetables. Go ahead, we'll be watching from a quite a while away. I'm fine with vegetarians, but when they try to stick the idea in our brains... well that I don't really like. yeah....i'll try to convince lions to eat vegetables. i'll dress you up in a broccoli suit and dangle you in front of the lions :thumbsup: j/k lol. Unfortunately I'm meat, not vegetables. And dressing me in a broccoli suit doesn't change that. :twisted: And don't you think that since we were made with the ability to eat meat, that we were actually meant to. if we were made with the ability to make nukes, were we meant to use nukes on other countries? Hell yeah! But then we'd just screw each other over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkforaster Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 people these days do not get the essence of being a vegetarian :wall: Are you saying we should all be vegetarians? Come on, that will never happen in fact. Because you do not eat meat, you are not technically human. Let me explain: Humans or homosapians are omnivores, this means they eat both plants AND meats. according this, you are not a human or homosapian for being a vegetarian. But I will not go calling you names like vegisapians or something. Because that is mean. And i have to agree with some points that have been made, Why argue your point about being a vegetarian when there are plenty of creatures out there eating meat right now. Your pets probably eat meat (if you have any that is). Go bother them, try to convince them in becoming vegetarians. sorry if i sound a bit harsh, but it is true. Lumbridge and it's past. Read here to find out about it.if you have time to waste then click hereTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkforaster Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 well, case closed. looks like TIF is mostly carnivores :wall: Happy Thanksgiving :thumbsup: we never said we were carnivores, we were saying how we did not want to be eating just vegetables. it means we are omnivores.the way we were supposed to be (read above post.) and people are saying that in different ways. Lumbridge and it's past. Read here to find out about it.if you have time to waste then click hereTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Make7upu101 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 people these days do not get the essence of being a vegetarian :wall: Are you saying we should all be vegetarians? Come on, that will never happen in fact. Because you do not eat meat, you are not technically human. Let me explain: Humans or homosapians are omnivores, this means they eat both plants AND meats. according this, you are not a human or homosapian for being a vegetarian. But I will not go calling you names like vegisapians or something. Because that is mean. And i have to agree with some points that have been made, Why argue your point about being a vegetarian when there are plenty of creatures out there eating meat right now. Your pets probably eat meat (if you have any that is). Go bother them, try to convince them in becoming vegetarians. sorry if i sound a bit harsh, but it is true. I realize that we are omnivores and have the potential to eat meat. The thing is, humans have gotten to a point where we do not need meat to live. The definition of what is human is pretty debatable and I̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m not going to get into that but you can't say person isn't human because they don't eat meat. Also, a lot of vegetarians will raise their pets on meat when they're small and then wean them off of it when they get bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadfdfd Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 We had a great feast with 35 guests! My mom panicked the entire time, I watched football and played video games with my cousin..And my 2 5-7 year old 2nd cousins kept asking if I wanted to see under their skirts :-s All in all though, it was a great day with awesome food! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhoggx7 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 if we were made with the ability to make nukes, were we meant to use nukes on other countries? I'm going to second that being the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The answer: Yes. They are meant to be used on other countries. What do you think we are going to do? Put them into orbit. The USA doesn't spend Billions of dollars on Nukes just to waste them. Trust me, they are for your defense, and if we didn't have them, (and a lot of them at that \ ), Iraq could probably be all over us now, but they are scared because we can send one little nuclear bomb over there and blow up their entire country. (I know this wouldn't happen [so you don't kill innocent people], but just putting it out there) ... I lol'd. There was never any hard evidence Iraq had WOMD. So how do you know that they'd be "all over you"? Besides, were nukes around in the World Wars? No... They put MEN into the battlefield, not just dropped a bomb and problem solved. The irony with human kind is that we are good at two things; Surviving and killing each other. The biggest problem with nukes is what you already said. If you were to use it to end/fight in a war, you'd take out countless innocent lives aswell. So what is the point of them? I doubt we'll ever know. This is way off topic now but I'll throw in my two cents. About them not around in the World Wars, ever heard of Hiroshima? And the Cold War? The atomic bomb pretty much solved the Japan threat, albeit at a high cost of life, and the Cold War didn't have MEN in the battlefield. I do agree that there would be no point to nuclear weapons if other countries didn't have them. They were made as a superior weapon to threaten other countries, and so the other countries had to make them or else have no defense at all. (Haha this reminds me othe End of ze world). Back on Topic, thanksgiving is tasty. Oh and vegitarians are awesome and all that, but if our prehistoric ancestors had morals like that, they would have died probably. Its a minigame. The first person to catch him gets a Klondike Bar and a handshake from Chuck Norris. Watch out those 2 combined may have adverse effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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