Bronx Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 "Slashiroth"]Just some things here I had to get off my mind. To Bronxie: * and go away no one cares about your opinion, come back when your clan is in the top 10 kthx :lol: Yeah if I recall correctly the last time we saw you was when we had that p2p miniwar and Devils beat the living **** out of ZF. Also, if you look at list ratings, Devils are almost unanimously ranked in the top 10. Also, you got 70 peopel to your war...that is absolutely pathetic, and you claim to be the 3rd or 4th best clan? I used to like ZF...I thought that the idiots were only a couple and the majority was good, but after this topic it is safe to say that you are almost all jerks. No offense slashir but with a turnout of 70 I don't think it's even safe to say YOUR clan is in the top 10 and yeah you have about 2 years on my clan ty. Harsh, and yea you showing up with 70 people is kinda pathetic. We came home with at least 50+ people still alive. I'm sorry that it was harsh but for some reason slashiroth decided to come and immediately target me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xx0trust0xx Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 too bad i was with 'the' i thought war was going down on world 20, so i grabbed my noobs and ran to pick up leftovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpaladin9 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Congratulations on your victory Gladz. You did well, and outnumbered us immensely(sp?). Congratulations to ZF for showing up, and with the numbers you had. I apologize for not being there. I was outside for an 8 hour band practice in which a large portion of my body was sun burned. Ok, i stopped reading after about page 10, so if this has already been said i'm sorry 1st... The Quality > Quantity thing wasn't meant as an insult to Gladz. We aren't saying you aren't a Quality Clan. What they meant is when comparing the Average Combat/Hp lvl of Zeonic Force with Gladiatorz, Zf has a slighty higher average combat and hp, although i believe our requirements are actually slightly higher than yours which would cause us to have higher average levels. I believe it was one of the gladz leaders who said this(or maybe a member i don't remember) "We don't kick those who don't meet req when we raise them" Zf doens't do that either :P I wish Zf would stop dogging gladz about having lower leveled members though. Although I believe we had the higher level averages at the war we still lost. Because we were greatly outnumbered. So obviously their strategy worked better(no i'm not saying you mass recruited or anything). Next... King koltzan 80/150 = Approximately 55% 110/200 = Approximately 55% So each clan had about 55% show up going by the numbers. While gladz had 40-50 more there, we were about the same in percentages(yes gladz has more active members, but as a clan is just as active as zf). <-- The point i'm trying to prove. Next... Zf members please stop flaming, and non zf members please don't consider 3/150(2% or so) of zf the entire clan... From the pages i read i only saw 3 of the members flaming, show me ONE clan(a large sized one, not a 10-50 member clan) that doesnt have any big mouths in it, then i will stop being upset about you saying 2% of zf is the entire clan. Next... Gladz has like 100k more post then zf... They are like a year older(no i don't know how many times gladz switched forums). Zf has switched forums 7-15 times i believe(don't remember exact amount) each of which had anywhere from 30-50k post(except the few that were temporary forums during down time, those having 100-5,000 post). Next... Don't remember who it was, but someone said something along the lines of "If you are all going ot be such sore losers we shouldn't war you again." Now that isn't word for word what he/she said, but its rather close. I would like you to show me a single clan that would have 100% of its members accept defeat without saying anything. I highly doubt you can, but thats beside the point. Every clan has people like that. Finally... Good job to gladz for the victory, and ZF for the turnout. -Darkpaladin9, High Council of Zeonicforce P.S. I need a new sig :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kstroyer Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 im not reading all these post but ..umm when did pko join gladz? i can remember a about a week ago.. u guys were trashing ga about him having addy on..?? not accusing of anything just wondering when he joined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Could_Happen Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Congratulations on your victory Gladz. You did well, and outnumbered us immensely(sp?). Congratulations to ZF for showing up, and with the numbers you had. I apologize for not being there. I was outside for an 8 hour band practice in which a large portion of my body was sun burned. Ok, i stopped reading after about page 10, so if this has already been said i'm sorry 1st... The Quality > Quantity thing wasn't meant as an insult to Gladz. We aren't saying you aren't a Quality Clan. What they meant is when comparing the Average Combat/Hp lvl of Zeonic Force with Gladiatorz, Zf has a slighty higher average combat and hp, although i believe our requirements are actually slightly higher than yours which would cause us to have higher average levels. I believe it was one of the gladz leaders who said this(or maybe a member i don't remember) "We don't kick those who don't meet req when we raise them" Zf doens't do that either :P I wish Zf would stop dogging gladz about having lower leveled members though. Although I believe we had the higher level averages at the war we still lost. Because we were greatly outnumbered. So obviously their strategy worked better(no i'm not saying you mass recruited or anything). Next... King koltzan 80/150 = Approximately 55% 110/200 = Approximately 55% So each clan had about 55% show up going by the numbers. While gladz had 40-50 more there, we were about the same in percentages(yes gladz has more active members, but as a clan is just as active as zf). <-- The point i'm trying to prove. Next... Zf members please stop flaming, and non zf members please don't consider 3/150(2% or so) of zf the entire clan... From the pages i read i only saw 3 of the members flaming, show me ONE clan(a large sized one, not a 10-50 member clan) that doesnt have any big mouths in it, then i will stop being upset about you saying 2% of zf is the entire clan. Next... Gladz has like 100k more post then zf... They are like a year older(no i don't know how many times gladz switched forums). Zf has switched forums 7-15 times i believe(don't remember exact amount) each of which had anywhere from 30-50k post(except the few that were temporary forums during down time, those having 100-5,000 post). Next... Don't remember who it was, but someone said something along the lines of "If you are all going ot be such sore losers we shouldn't war you again." Now that isn't word for word what he/she said, but its rather close. I would like you to show me a single clan that would have 100% of its members accept defeat without saying anything. I highly doubt you can, but thats beside the point. Every clan has people like that. Finally... Good job to gladz for the victory, and ZF for the turnout. -Darkpaladin9, High Council of Zeonicforce P.S. I need a new sig :P wisely said Josh :) i agree with what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpaladin9 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 "Slashiroth"]Just some things here I had to get off my mind. To Bronxie: * and go away no one cares about your opinion, come back when your clan is in the top 10 kthx :lol: Yeah if I recall correctly the last time we saw you was when we had that p2p miniwar and Devils beat the living **** out of ZF. Also, if you look at list ratings, Devils are almost unanimously ranked in the top 10. Also, you got 70 peopel to your war...that is absolutely pathetic, and you claim to be the 3rd or 4th best clan? I used to like ZF...I thought that the idiots were only a couple and the majority was good, but after this topic it is safe to say that you are almost all jerks. No offense slashir but with a turnout of 70 I don't think it's even safe to say YOUR clan is in the top 10 and yeah you have about 2 years on my clan ty. Harsh, and yea you showing up with 70 people is kinda pathetic. We came home with at least 50+ people still alive. Ok... Now i'm not trying to be rude when i say this. If zf Showing up wth 70-80 of thier 150 members (approximately 55% of their clan) then gladz shows up with 110-120 members (55%-60%) of thier clan, than doesn't it make it pathetic that you could only pull the same percent from your clan as us. ALthough we had less numbers we also have less total members. In all reality each clan had around 55% of thier clan there so I think thats enough for us to both be happy about it. Once again please don't take that as an insult, I am not trying to insult Gladz, or anyone else, although it will probably be considered one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirDDegreE Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 im not reading all these post but ..umm when did pko join gladz? i can remember a about a week ago.. u guys were trashing ga about him having addy on..?? not accusing of anything just wondering when he joined? I've posted this already, but he joined last week. He is also very active on our forums, which is good. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirDDegreE Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 "Slashiroth"]Just some things here I had to get off my mind. To Bronxie: * and go away no one cares about your opinion, come back when your clan is in the top 10 kthx :lol: Yeah if I recall correctly the last time we saw you was when we had that p2p miniwar and Devils beat the living **** out of ZF. Also, if you look at list ratings, Devils are almost unanimously ranked in the top 10. Also, you got 70 peopel to your war...that is absolutely pathetic, and you claim to be the 3rd or 4th best clan? I used to like ZF...I thought that the idiots were only a couple and the majority was good, but after this topic it is safe to say that you are almost all jerks. No offense slashir but with a turnout of 70 I don't think it's even safe to say YOUR clan is in the top 10 and yeah you have about 2 years on my clan ty. Harsh, and yea you showing up with 70 people is kinda pathetic. We came home with at least 50+ people still alive. Ok... Now i'm not trying to be rude when i say this. If zf Showing up wth 70-80 of thier 150 members (approximately 55% of their clan) then gladz shows up with 110-120 members (55%-60%) of thier clan, than doesn't it make it pathetic that you could only pull the same percent from your clan as us. ALthough we had less numbers we also have less total members. In all reality each clan had around 55% of thier clan there so I think thats enough for us to both be happy about it. Once again please don't take that as an insult, I am not trying to insult Gladz, or anyone else, although it will probably be considered one. You my friend are a true samaritin (sp?). I wish there were more of you around. :) I'm sorry you couldn't make it to the war. You missed a great fight. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I apologize for my flaming but I suppose people fail to realize their actions that cause reactions and then the reaction is looked poorly upon in many cases. Btw darkpaladin, I did take a large interest in ZF for a while. Don't you remember I offered you all an alliance? I wanted to join ZF at one point. My point is that I was not biased to dislike ZF, before today I have always liked them, so all that indicates is that ZF sure did something wrong to totally reform my opinion. Anyhow, you say that it's not all of you and I'll take your word for it. But I take responsibility for the insults I've handed out also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerico Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Quantity > Quality is not always true. MD outnumbered us by like 30 guys and had way more level 100s than we did and we were the last ones standing at GDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpaladin9 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Quantity > Quality is not always true. MD outnumbered us by like 30 guys and had way more level 100s than we did and we were the last ones standing at GDs. From what i've seen in all of your wars, you've all had excellent organization :P Having a well organized clan/war strategy helps a lot aswell :P But i'm sure we can both agree that 90% of the time 90 will be 60 in rs2 unless the lvls are just that far apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Noah Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 im not reading all these post but ..umm when did pko join gladz? i can remember a about a week ago.. u guys were trashing ga about him having addy on..?? not accusing of anything just wondering when he joined? I've posted this already, but he joined last week. He is also very active on our forums, which is good. :D Kstroyer, there are two people with the name almost, p_ko, the one in the gladz, and p_k_o that used to be in (may still be in) Corruption. Unless they were both in Corruption :shock: Then I don't know :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Goro Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I got to about page 11 and stopped lol I was with Jags and allies on dif server in case cheating occurred. Gratz to Gladz for their overwhelming victory! :evil: Death to those who oppose us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lltripletll Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 20+ pages that cant be good :D, when people lose they usually have their reasons, i dont see a problem with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tebo Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I watched all 3 of the wars today. TRWF Vs. LK Gladz Vs. ZF Bartba Vs. BK ( Bartba was the only member of Exer to go to the war ) LK outbumbered TRWF, but TRWF managed to win, it is not sheer numbers that will make you win a war also the teamwork. Gladz outnumbered ZF and won, ZF did do well Gladz should not of went as many magers and rangers as they did :wink: those are the ones who got killed, also watching LK set up for their war they were quite unorganized, while Gladz were very organized. So outnumbering is not the only thing that will make you win. Gladz have lower lvl's than ZF, but Gladz lower lvl's killed ZF's higher ones :o you did realise when you challenged them their was that possibility you would lose? My opinion means nothing I was a spectator at 3 wars today saw how they got organized and their battle plans, LK outnumberd was lower lvls less organized an they lost. Gladz ounumbered was lower lvls more organized and they won. Gladz won fairly, congratulations on your win. It was a crazy war, best war I've ever seen and lasted forever, the amount of numbers never seemed to get smaller :shock: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerico Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Hahaha yeah almost half of the 30 rangers and magers got destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucca13 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I watched all 3 of the wars today. TRWF Vs. LK Gladz Vs. ZF Bartba Vs. BK ( Bartba was the only member of Exer to go to the war ) LK outbumbered TRWF, but TRWF managed to win, it is not sheer numbers that will make you win a war also the teamwork. Gladz outnumbered ZF and won, ZF did do well Gladz should not of went as many magers and rangers as they did :wink: those are the ones who got killed, also watching LK set up for their war they were quite unorganized, while Gladz were very organized. So outnumbering is not the only thing that will make you win. Gladz have lower lvl's than ZF, but Gladz lower lvl's killed ZF's higher ones :o you did realise when you challenged them their was that possibility you would lose? My opinion means nothing I was a spectator at 3 wars today saw how they got organized and their battle plans, LK outnumberd was lower lvls less organized an they lost. Gladz ounumbered was lower lvls more organized and they won. Gladz won fairly, congratulations on your win. It was a crazy war, best war I've ever seen and lasted forever, the amount of numbers never seemed to get smaller :shock: . Psh even if lk had won (and thankfully they didnt) they did cheat. :P They invited a few jags to come as friends :lol:. Though I didnt allow them to go, you could assume LK did ask others :P I'm better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 "Slashiroth"]Just some things here I had to get off my mind. To Bronxie: * and go away no one cares about your opinion, come back when your clan is in the top 10 kthx :lol: Yeah if I recall correctly the last time we saw you was when we had that p2p miniwar and Devils beat the living **** out of ZF. Also, if you look at list ratings, Devils are almost unanimously ranked in the top 10. Also, you got 70 peopel to your war...that is absolutely pathetic, and you claim to be the 3rd or 4th best clan? I used to like ZF...I thought that the idiots were only a couple and the majority was good, but after this topic it is safe to say that you are almost all jerks. No offense slashir but with a turnout of 70 I don't think it's even safe to say YOUR clan is in the top 10 and yeah you have about 2 years on my clan ty. Harsh, and yea you showing up with 70 people is kinda pathetic. We came home with at least 50+ people still alive. Ok... Now i'm not trying to be rude when i say this. If zf Showing up wth 70-80 of thier 150 members (approximately 55% of their clan) then gladz shows up with 110-120 members (55%-60%) of thier clan, than doesn't it make it pathetic that you could only pull the same percent from your clan as us. ALthough we had less numbers we also have less total members. In all reality each clan had around 55% of thier clan there so I think thats enough for us to both be happy about it. Once again please don't take that as an insult, I am not trying to insult Gladz, or anyone else, although it will probably be considered one. This has been bugging me for like 10 pages lol. To find the exact percentage of people at the war just take the number there and divide by the total number. Then move the decimal point 2 spots to the right. ZF: 70/150=46.666% 80/150=53.333% Conclusion: ZF had between 46%-53% of there clan at the war, an excellent turnout. Gladz: 110/200=55% 120/200=60% Conclusion: Gladz had between 55%-60% of there clan at the war, again an excellent turnout. Overall conclusion: Both clans had excellent turnouts but the numbers indicate that Gladz had a higher percentage turnout. See? That's all these numbers prove. It doesn't prove that Gladz is more active then ZF or ZF is more active then Gladz. All it proves is that Gladz had a higher percentage turnout in members. All those numbers prove is 1 fact, a single war, 1 day among many. ZF fought great and it was an excellent war, one of the best and most fun I've ever fought in. Plus, I'm glad I died in the war, it makes it more exciting. What's fun about standing around in the same spot? :lol: I've always had respect for ZF but I lost a lot of respect towards Tombo, Slash, and Weedsharker(?) only because of the disresepctful, inappropriate comments being said in Lumby. But you can't judge a clan by a couple members, right people? Congratz to everyone in Gladz on our victory and I'm sure we'll see ZF again in the future I hope. :wink: RSC VeteranGladz since April 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Could_Happen Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I watched all 3 of the wars today. TRWF Vs. LK Gladz Vs. ZF Bartba Vs. BK ( Bartba was the only member of Exer to go to the war ) LK outbumbered TRWF, but TRWF managed to win, it is not sheer numbers that will make you win a war also the teamwork. Gladz outnumbered ZF and won, ZF did do well Gladz should not of went as many magers and rangers as they did :wink: those are the ones who got killed, also watching LK set up for their war they were quite unorganized, while Gladz were very organized. So outnumbering is not the only thing that will make you win. Gladz have lower lvl's than ZF, but Gladz lower lvl's killed ZF's higher ones :o you did realise when you challenged them their was that possibility you would lose? My opinion means nothing I was a spectator at 3 wars today saw how they got organized and their battle plans, LK outnumberd was lower lvls less organized an they lost. Gladz ounumbered was lower lvls more organized and they won. Gladz won fairly, congratulations on your win. It was a crazy war, best war I've ever seen and lasted forever, the amount of numbers never seemed to get smaller :shock: . that would partly be me, lvl 92 took out some lvl 111's (aula1) and several lvl 100+, lowest i got was 96 i killed 9 ppl at this war and led the charge on over 20 was a very exciting and fun war. I cant wait till next one hopefully around xmas Even tho i LOVE most of ZF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sith Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Twenty three pages... I hope you guys got this out of your system, lol. Too much flaming here. Locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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