My imagination is crazy, physics help?

[Guest]

Are you even a builder. Like qualified? Or is this just an imagination thing, where you let your mind wander into the possibilities of someone building a structure like that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe in the next few years we might see something partly as big as this (but no where near) go up in Dubai. There's crazy building feats going on over there at the moment.

[Despaxes]

 

 

 

No, most every skyscraper is a tenant building. Look, you can even lease at the Sears Tower. And the World Trade Center was full of tenants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, i don't know much about america's buildings, so yeah haha.

 

 

 

I still dont see the need for it to be that large. If you could get that many people to want to rent office space then i could understandm but noone would want to create a random HQ in a random area for no reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

warri0r45

 

 

 

All your debates with the probability of the building were addressed in my post. The pyramid shape debate thing is addressed in his first post, he said it would have a larger base , and work to a smaller tip. (from what i read, honestly i didnt read the entire post haha)

[MyPurpleCrayon]

What the hell is wrong with you?

[Viktorkrum77]

 

 

 

I still dont see the need for it to be that large. If you could get that many people to want to rent office space then i could understandm but noone would want to create a random HQ in a random area for no reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Real estate. :

[warri0r45]

 

warri0r45

 

 

 

All your debates with the probability of the building were addressed in my post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry about that. :

[Viktorkrum77]

Major edit.

[crimsonking]

Keep nature in mind, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunami's volcanoes, all places have their natural disasters there really isn't a way around them.

[Gin_and_Tonic]

Keep nature in mind, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunami's volcanoes, all places have their natural disasters there really isn't a way around them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Insurance? :|

[SanFranciscoGiants]

 

 

After 9/11, I'm all against pointlessly tall buildings. Their just sitting targets for terrorists. Building a ton of smaller buildings that equal up to that much space would be a much better idea if you ask me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But not as cool.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

+1 =)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Smaller ones will be waaaay cooler when theyre still standing

[Tigra00]

Great plan. Now all you have to do is defy the laws of physics and raise a few billion dollars for expenses to build it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're almost .5% done! :P

[issy2]

Great plan. Now all you have to do is defy the laws of physics and raise a few billion dollars for expenses to build it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're almost .5% done!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After 9/11, I'm all against pointlessly tall buildings. Their just sitting targets for terrorists. Building a ton of smaller buildings that equal up to that much space would be a much better idea if you ask me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still dont see the need for it to be that large. If you could get that many people to want to rent office space then i could understandm but noone would want to create a random HQ in a random area for no reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow... so much negativity. Come on guys it's obvious Viktorkrum isn't exactly planning on building this thing. He's asking for help, not criticism. Lighten up guys!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway to conserve resources etc you could use... um what's that stuff called... *hurries off to watch Stormbreaker again* super nylon. It's a tiny tiny thread made of (I think...) nylon and titanium plaited together. It's unbelievably thin but unbelievably expensive, too. :roll:

 

 

 

The wind pressure up there would be too strong... like SuziAngel said it might be cool to have sweets in the lifts. :lol: :)

 

 

 

Also in terms of wind again what about glass? I'm no physician but I'm guessing there'd crack up there with so much pressure. And no-one wants to work in a building with no windows...

 

 

 

And if it was 6000 feet high... I'm not sure but what about passing aeroplanes?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The shape would have to have a wide base preferably going up to a point. (nope you've already got that.) And if it was based in America where there's lots of tornadoes the foundations would have to be really deep.

[cadburys_egg]

After 9/11, I'm all against pointlessly tall buildings. Their just sitting targets for terrorists. Building a ton of smaller buildings that equal up to that much space would be a much better idea if you ask me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you think they first built them? To tempt terrorism? Just because they wanted to? It was to conserve space. Building lots of little buildings is fine, but you're going to use up much, much more space than a single skyscraper.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I don't think this building would be feasible. How do you plan to finish building the top? There aren't any cranes that could reach that high and I doubt anyone would want to (and I doubt they could) carry girders, cement, bricks etc up to the top.

[KCHughes]

Keep nature in mind, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunami's volcanoes, all places have their natural disasters there really isn't a way around them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, those infamous Chicago hurricanes really pack a punch. :wink:

[Viktorkrum77]

 

Keep nature in mind, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunami's volcanoes, all places have their natural disasters there really isn't a way around them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, those infamous Chicago hurricanes really pack a punch. :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lmfao. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[BlueTear]

First step would probably be to found a suitable place for the foundation, which would baically have to be solid bedrock. Drill a few big holes into it to anchor the building properly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The wind needs to be conquered. For the finished building, you can use a colossal freefloating object suspended a few meters of your foundation, attached to the top of your building. Properly made, it'll absorb any wind observation. Wind tunnels could be used to augment this effect if you stumble on a jetstream or somesuch, and despite the loss in usuable space, with a few properly placed windows it would plain look cool.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For construction, well, you'd obviously have to build a seriously solid frame to work on, and the central shaft where you're going to hang your anti-wind-ball will most likely have to be filled with construction gear like extra big elevators.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Materials... Steel works to a point, but you'd want cables akin to what someone mentioned above. Never heard of a titanium based one, but nano-manipulated carbon made ones are thought to be able to build a space elevator. Go figure how they'd hold out in a plain building.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For security, well, if terrorist attacks worries you so much, install a few SAM sites here and there. It's worth mentioning however, that even the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center was built to survive a plane crash. They collapsed because the ensuing fire deformed the carrying steel bulkheads. We fix that with a considerably improved automatic fire suppression system (I'm thinking cannisters of foam made for detonation placed here and there suitable places around the building) and the use of the aforementioned nanocables.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Making the entire thing a pressurised environment is probably the best option to make the top floors workable and ease the transition from the individual floors.

[crimsonking]

 

Keep nature in mind, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunami's volcanoes, all places have their natural disasters there really isn't a way around them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, those infamous Chicago hurricanes really pack a punch. :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see where it says hes going to put it Chicago.

[ThurinEthir]

I'm probably one of few Tip.Iters that have been in the fastest elevator of the world, in the tallest building of the world. It took 49 seconds or something to go from the 5th floor to the 89th. Major ear-poppage pl0x. (So your building would be...Major, major, major, major, major, major, major, major, major, major ear-poppage.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And who would want to fly a plane into the Taipei 101...? Other than some Chinese people with a grudge against Taiwanese...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oops...Typed "poopage" instead of "poppage"...ROFL... :lol:

[Viktorkrum77]

I'm probably one of few Tip.Iters that have been in the fastest elevator of the world, in the tallest building of the world. It took 49 seconds or something to go from the 5th floor to the 89th. Major ear-poppage pl0x. (So your building would be...Major, major, major, major, major, major, major, major, major, major ear-poppage.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And who would want to fly a plane into the Taipei 101...? Other than some Chinese people with a grudge against Taiwanese...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oops...Typed "poopage" instead of "poppage"...ROFL... :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I went in the one in John Hancock Center (Chicago) and that's supposedly the fastest at 39 seconds.

[ThurinEthir]

 

I'm probably one of few Tip.Iters that have been in the fastest elevator of the world, in the tallest building of the world. It took 49 seconds or something to go from the 5th floor to the 89th. Major ear-poppage pl0x. (So your building would be...Major, major, major, major, major, major, major, major, major, major ear-poppage.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And who would want to fly a plane into the Taipei 101...? Other than some Chinese people with a grudge against Taiwanese...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oops...Typed "poopage" instead of "poppage"...ROFL... :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I went in the one in John Hancock Center (Chicago) and that's supposedly the fastest at 39 seconds.

 

 

 

How tall is it...?

 

 

 

Fastest Ascending Elevator speed: 16.83 m/s (37.5 miles/hour or 60.4 km/h)

 

 

 

Yes, I know, that's Wiki, but check other sources...

[apinagez]

The problem with buildings that high would be - from what I've heard - not just the materials we have avaliable, but the elevators speed.

 

 

 

Nobody would want to spend several minutes to go up and down.

[Viktorkrum77]

 

 

 

How tall is it...?

 

 

 

Fastest Ascending Elevator speed: 16.83 m/s (37.5 miles/hour or 60.4 km/h)

 

 

 

Yes, I know, that's Wiki, but check other sources...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We went from the -2th to the 94th in around 39-49 seconds I believe. The elevator kept saying, "Welcome to the world's fastest elevator...".

[ThurinEthir]

 

 

 

 

How tall is it...?

 

 

 

Fastest Ascending Elevator speed: 16.83 m/s (37.5 miles/hour or 60.4 km/h)

 

 

 

Yes, I know, that's Wiki, but check other sources...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We went from the -2th to the 94th in around 39-49 seconds I believe. The elevator kept saying, "Welcome to the world's fastest elevator...".

 

 

 

When...? That's what happened at the Taipei 101, except in Mandarin. :P (Maybe the floors at the John Hancock Center are shorter than at the 101.)

[issy2]

 

 

 

 

 

How tall is it...?

 

 

 

Fastest Ascending Elevator speed: 16.83 m/s (37.5 miles/hour or 60.4 km/h)

 

 

 

Yes, I know, that's Wiki, but check other sources...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We went from the -2th to the 94th in around 39-49 seconds I believe. The elevator kept saying, "Welcome to the world's fastest elevator...".

 

 

 

When...? That's what happened at the Taipei 101, except in Mandarin. :P (Maybe the floors at the John Hancock Center are shorter than at the 101.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or, of course, you could just have stairs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:-w

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:-$

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:-w

[Viktorkrum77]

When...? That's what happened at the Taipei 101, except in Mandarin. :P (Maybe the floors at the John Hancock Center are shorter than at the 101.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, there's no doubt that Taipei 101 is much taller.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, Issy made me think of something. Would your ears pop if you took the stairs, because of the more gradual air pressure change?

[sjiskebab5]

After reading all those post, I realized you were serious :shock: .

 

 

 

I don't know poo about physics so i'll just stop spamming this up :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sjis