Lionheart_0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 The problem i have with this forum is that everyone just wants to voice their opinions. Thats good and all, but almost at the same level as the "Favourits threads". To better some of these descussion and debates, i think people should start to back up their opinions (Not really opinions, but more of fact since they are proving them) instead of just saying "Oh this is what i think, and no matter the proof or how logical the other side is, i will stick to it." Thats why I created the essay thread (No one has handed in anything yet >.>), so that people can prove their points, while also proving that they are good debaters. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknownmasterofnothing Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I find I learn more about what other ppl in other countries feel on certain things. Just to find out something new, new points. Some topics like politics and religion are doomed to a merry go round of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin_and_Tonic Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 The problem i have with this forum is that everyone just wants to voice their opinions. Thats good and all, but almost at the same level as the "Favourits threads". To better some of these descussion and debates, i think people should start to back up their opinions (Not really opinions, but more of fact since they are proving them) instead of just saying "Oh this is what i think, and no matter the proof or how logical the other side is, i will stick to it." Thats why I created the essay thread (No one has handed in anything yet >.>), so that people can prove their points, while also proving that they are good debaters. I value peoples opinions, take them into account and reply to them, but i resent the fact some people argue to the bitter end someones opinion... You opinion is yours and yours only, you dont need to justify that opinion to someone just because it may not be the conformative response... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 The problem i have with this forum is that everyone just wants to voice their opinions. Thats good and all, but almost at the same level as the "Favourits threads". To better some of these descussion and debates, i think people should start to back up their opinions (Not really opinions, but more of fact since they are proving them) instead of just saying "Oh this is what i think, and no matter the proof or how logical the other side is, i will stick to it." Thats why I created the essay thread (No one has handed in anything yet >.>), so that people can prove their points, while also proving that they are good debaters. I value peoples opinions, take them into account and reply to them, but i resent the fact some people argue to the bitter end someones opinion... You opinion is yours and yours only, you dont need to justify that opinion to someone just because it may not be the conformative response... Of course there is some parts of tradition, belief, faith, location, age, and free will that goes into opinion, and this cant be changed. But at some point, proofs need to be shown for that opinion, other wise, why have the opinion. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin_and_Tonic Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 The problem i have with this forum is that everyone just wants to voice their opinions. Thats good and all, but almost at the same level as the "Favourits threads". To better some of these descussion and debates, i think people should start to back up their opinions (Not really opinions, but more of fact since they are proving them) instead of just saying "Oh this is what i think, and no matter the proof or how logical the other side is, i will stick to it." Thats why I created the essay thread (No one has handed in anything yet >.>), so that people can prove their points, while also proving that they are good debaters. I value peoples opinions, take them into account and reply to them, but i resent the fact some people argue to the bitter end someones opinion... You opinion is yours and yours only, you dont need to justify that opinion to someone just because it may not be the conformative response... Of course there is some parts of tradition, belief, faith, location, age, and free will that goes into opinion, and this cant be changed. But at some point, proofs need to be shown for that opinion, other wise, why have the opinion. Of course, valid response - Opinions can be challenged by proof, but, heres an example from the 'What happens when you die thread': Nothing... 'Why d'you think that?' No facts to prove what happens... Mostly based on beliefs and up-bringing. To challenge a persons beliefs, in my opinion is wrong... Its like trying to dictate what football team a person supports. (if you're not religious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I just continue posting here because I always have been as far as I can remember :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemathonical Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Maybe I like the people in OT? ^Sir Jem 05-The Bunny Drinking Blog?^ Click it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Maybe I like the people in OT? Nooo Waayyy! :shock: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I've been posting far less of late, and that's mainly because I don't really have much to add to the topics that I've seen here recently. Often they're religion topics which have been done to death, or at least topics which soon become religion threads. Sometimes I write a post, then think "bah, there's no real point my saying this" and close the tab without submitting. It's a shame, really. I put the lack of topics interesting to me as being down to the moderation and censorship of topics which might have become interesting. That's not really intended as a poke at the moderators or staff -- there are good reasons that most of these threads are closed -- but I do get a bit of a feeling of the forum being aimed (specifically) at children these days. Ive been the same way for a while now. Its worse when its a fairly large topic because even though I enjoy sharing my opinion, to me it just seems to be a waste of time basically reiterating what somebody has said already. To add to that in many topics (particularly religious and political ones) there seems to be little debate or rational thinking to begin with, which means people end up posting & reposting pretty much their same single opinion on the matter in order to force it onto other. This almost always results in a war. Its like some posters just pick a viewpoint and try to force it on others without considering the other side of the argument and at times even ignoring the facts. Maybe Im just getting cynical when it comes to the forums but it just seems that outside of recent news/events there is very little to post about that hasnt already been debated to death in the past. Its extremely difficult (and therefore rare) to create an interesting/unique topic for debate since tip.it has been going so long. However, this has had me thinking and maybe the forums haven't changed maybe we have. I mean Ive either read or posted on these forums in some incarnation for almost 6 years now and thats a pretty long time by any stretch. I mean in that time Ive gone from being a pretty immature 13/14 year old child to being a 19 year old grown man. My attitudes/opinions have drastically changed in those years, if I could look back Id probably cringe at most of my older posts. My point is that RS is a game geared towards younger teenagers for the most part (in terms of content/rules etc.) and therefore the forum is as well which is why it is moderated so its seemingly aimed at kids . So as the older users like myself slowly die out ,for whatever reason, new youngsters will inevitably come in. Therefore its not the boards that are becoming less mature or the post are becoming worse its maybe us that are becoming more mature and becoming proper adults. I hope you caught my drift there, its 3:30AM so Im a little tired at the moment so I may have went on a bit there. He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knives669 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Well, even though people come in here and really do nothing but voice their opinion, I like to see the way people think. It intrigues me to see what different people base their thoughts on and what they deem to be important to put faith into. Occasionally, there are times when someone will come in and we will have a serious discussion (even though that seems rare now), and that is always fun. The thing that really bothers me about the discussions that do take place (no matter how frivolous) is some people really seem to be in here for the wrong reasons. Some people just like to get a rise out of others by making them mad, and that's alright. :P But, not all the time. You know, I come in here and talk about my cat pictures, or funny things that have happened to me, but I hope that the majority of the regulars here have seen my serious side, because in real life, I am a very quiet, serious person who enjoys to have deep conversations. I also like the discussions in here that allow for us to get to know each other. ^_^ I'm very interested in the way people live in other regions of the world, and I like very much to get to know different people and find new friends, even if they aren't like the ones I have in real life. I'm always looking to broaden my horizons and gain new knowledge and this forum can really help with that sometimes. No. I don't really think that what we do talk about here is useless. Sometimes it is. But, not extremely often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak722 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Why are you questioning the system? You're not gonna nail 95 theseses on the forums are you?... :-s The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I learn things. I don't really give a flying [cabbage] about what you think. You can repeat it over and over again til your face turns blue, I don't care. What I want to know is what you base your thoughts and opinions on, your sources, your background your reasoning. Because I can use those to evaluate my own opinions, my own thoughts, and alter accordingly. And in the process I learn things about subjects I'd never spend time researching otherwise. Someone makes what appears to be an outrageous claim, I look it up - or get the source from whoever made the claim - and all of a sudden, I know something new. It's what keeps me coming back here at regular intervalls. (... not only do I learn things, I learn useful things. Remember the middle east debattes we used to have a few years ago? I wrote one essay and did one project on subjects involving the middle east, something I'd never have had the background knowledge to even consider without this place) I couldn't agree more, if someone just spouts ther opinion without any justification whatsoever, it just annoys me. Justifying your opinion with some sort of reasoning, however = smart and makes for a much better discussion/argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andufusthebronze Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 yes, like this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malo2 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Thats what off topic is all about, people like to start a discussion on something and debate about it. Although most people hate to be wrong a little too much, so no matter how much evidence you have backing you up, it will still be an endless flame war, gotta love it. Lastfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richpoepaap Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 yes, like this one Your post was pretty useless too. I think discussions should always have a place in off topic. My opinion is largely same as that of Lionheart_0...you do not have a discussion unless you can back up your opinions. Why those people think this or that is what I'm interested in. You can learn from what other people say. By discussing and being open to other peoples idea's and opinions, is the only way to form one of your own, imho. Just saying "I think this or that,and I don't care what anyone else says" is pointless. Not considering new information is stupid imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Itsjustagame, take your attitude elsewhere. I've cleaned this topic of your posts. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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