wakka102 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I have a fascination with aliens, UFO's, and government conspiracies surrounding them. I've done lots of research into them and am thinking of getting some books on the topic (which is amazing since I hate reading books :shock: ). Personally I do believe that the earth is being visited by extra terrestrials. Whether or not the government is affiliated with them is up for debate but I feel I've learned enough on the topic to make a good decision on the subject. I do believe that if the government knows about it, they will crack within the next few years. A lot of pressure and evidence has been stolen from them and they can only cover it up for so long. What are your thoughts on the topic? If your ever playing Runescape or something, pull this up in the corner of your screen and watch. It's a very interesting and full of information on the topic. It's about an hour and a half: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 02&q=alien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Yes, I believe in extra terrestrial life. However, more so in other galaxies or other extrasolar systems in our galaxy. And I don't believe, if they are actually evolved enough like us, that they could come in contact with us, or even know of are existence. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalTalker Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I also have to admit having a facination (sorry if i mispelled it) about aliens, space, etc. I, personelly, believe in aliens/other life forms, because, in the deep depths of space, there has GOT to be other living things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabola Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I think that it is hilarious to assume that aliens are visiting our planet. I also think that it would be irresponsible not to assume that given the size of our universe there are other life forms out there. They just aren't visiting us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 The chances that amongst the billions of stars there is some sort of alien life is pretty good. The chances that they would come across Earth are very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadburys_egg Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Despite space being seemingly endless, I still don't believe in extra terrestrial life. Maybe it's naive, or maybe I just don't want to admit there could be things out there more advanced than us. I just don't, can't even, grasp the theory of us just being a tiny spec in a tiny spec of a tiny spec of a galaxy of a galaxy of a galaxy, more so than that. But I doubt they'd visit this planet. Think how many other planets, galaxies even, there are. Less chance than the lottery really. We'd be more likely to recieve a visit if we had means of contacting them, via means of radio or a signal of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabola Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Less chance than the lottery really. And yet someone wins that every week :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 wow, this filled up fast :shock: lol. I'm glad to see that people believe that other extra terrestrial life in the universe. It's illogical to think that were the only ones in this vast universe. I was one to believe that aliens did were not visiting the planet until I researched it myself. The evidence I've found is just too overwhelming to pass up. I've read all about Roswell, Area 51, thousands of sighting, videos, I've read about the stories of the government being involved. There's just too much for me to pass it up as being false. I think if others here were to look into it they would see the same but I'm sure a lot of you have not so I won't argue the point too much. The main reason that the government would cover it up is money. They found the crashed ship in Roswell and basically tried to take it apart and see how it works. They could come up with ways to power the world without relying on fossil fuels and wage war in new ways. The main point of covering it up is so that enemies of the country that has control if it won't get a hold of it until they milked it to its full potential. I've read some supposed leaked documents, including a letter to president Roosevelt, on the topic of the extra terrestrials. A lot of very interesting stuff. The Cold War, the Kennedy assassination all revolve around it. I'm sort of rambling at this point, and do not know if that stuff is true, not saying it is, but I thought it was interesting to point out. But none the less, the evidence is just overwhelming if you take the time to look. This is the best documentary I've seen on the topic. If you've got some time, watch it. It's very fascinating and has a lot of good information. It's about 1 and half hours. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 02&q=alien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My_Eggs Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Aliens are real, Big Foot is real, The Monster under my bed is real.... I'll leave it at that.... 99 HP, Attack, Strength, Defence, Summoning, Ranged, Herblore, Prayer, Agility, Magic, Slayer, Fletching, Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, and Thieving. Jagex'd out of my untrimmed hp cape on 6/14/2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 wow, this filled up fast :shock: lol. I'm glad to see that people believe that other extra terrestrial life in the universe. It's illogical to think that were the only ones in this vast universe. I was one to believe that aliens did were not visiting the planet until I researched it myself. The evidence I've found is just too overwhelming to pass up. I've read all about Roswell, Area 51, thousands of sighting, videos, I've read about the stories of the government being involved. There's just too much for me to pass it up as being false. I think if others here were to look into it they would see the same but I'm sure a lot of you have not so I won't argue the point too much. The main reason that the government would cover it up is money. They found the crashed ship in Roswell and basically tried to take it apart and see how it works. They could come up with ways to power the world without relying on fossil fuels and wage war in new ways. The main point of covering it up is so that enemies of the country that has control if it won't get a hold of it until they milked it to its full potential. I've read some supposed leaked documents, including a letter to president Roosevelt, on the topic of the extra terrestrials. A lot of very interesting stuff. The Cold War, the Kennedy assassination all revolve around it. I'm sort of rambling at this point, and do not know if that stuff is true, not saying it is, but I thought it was interesting to point out. But none the less, the evidence is just overwhelming if you take the time to look. Maybe a little exaggerated, but that is probably true. Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 Aliens are real, Big Foot is real, The Monster under my bed is real.... I'll leave it at that....I take it that you're not a believer. I urge you to look into it before you go one way or the other. The one's visiting the planet, however, are not hostile to us. In fact, I believe they care about the safety of us. If they wanted to "invade" they would have by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabola Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 The speculation I've found is just too overwhelming to pass up. There, I corrected it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My_Eggs Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Aliens are real, Big Foot is real, The Monster under my bed is real.... I'll leave it at that....I take it that you're not a believer. I urge you to look into it before you go one way or the other. The one's visiting the planet, however, are not hostile to us. In fact, I believe they care about the safety of us. If they wanted to "invade" they would have by now. No, actually I do believe in all of those that I just mentioned.... well besides the monster. :uhh: 99 HP, Attack, Strength, Defence, Summoning, Ranged, Herblore, Prayer, Agility, Magic, Slayer, Fletching, Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, and Thieving. Jagex'd out of my untrimmed hp cape on 6/14/2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moopymitchell182 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Yes on alien life. No on government conspiracies. Anyway, the aliens and government conspiracies always remind me of Megadeth's Hanger 18 video. If you haven't seen it, I would watch it. It's pretty funny and has something to do with this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapeloser22 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 George Bush is an alien, why do you think he cant pronounce Nuclear? Thats the aliens ONLY weakness! If we get him to try and say it enough he'll crack and reveal they're secret plans! Now whos with me?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 The chances of alien life out there somewhere is astronomically (no pun intended) huge. The chances of them visiting us regularily are small, but still feasible if you can comprehend a reason WHY they'd wish to do such a thing. There are tons of video's out there of undeniable proof of SOMETHING flying around in our skies and in space that is not known to us. It could very well be government crafts being tested, but they give such stupid excuses it's just hard to believe they're not hiding something. Honestly, I saw one video of a craft hovering above an area for THREE HOURS straight and then zooming off incredibley fast. Government said it was "Swamp Gas". Are you kidding me? Swamp Gas is the BEST they can come up with? The planet Venus is also regularily blamed even when it cannot be seen. If you see something in the sky half the size of the moon, guess what? It isn't Venus. Venus doesn't get it's jollies off by zooming up and having a date with our moon. Just doesn't happen. I've also seen a video of 7 crafts in the sky, hovering for hours. Again, the government had a stupid excuse...Flare's. Air Force fighter jet flares. In the sky. Hovering. For hours. Apparently they were magic flares, because they defied gravity and several other laws of physics. There were fighter jets flying around in the sky that night and the government said that due to these flares, they couldn't land. Besides the fact that it's impossible that they were flares...Why can a fighter jet not land because of a flare? Oh, I forgot...It was a MAGIC flare. My bad. Not to mention the several space-station feeds that were hijacked and made public. Like the one where they said there were objects "in the foreground", but they clearly go BEHIND a tether that had broken off and floated like 7 miles away. The government declined to comment on that one. They commented another time, however, when a feed of a missle being shot, from space, towards a craft, and the craft dodging the missle was hijacked and made public. They said that the flash of the missle was the light from the thruster (entirely possible, but it stops there) and that the two moving objects (one moving faster than the other, and both in different directions) were just dust particles thrown around by the thruster. My favourite, besides that last one, is the video of a glowing orange disk striking the ground, bouncing up, and then striking the ground again and exploding on impact. The government said that was a weather balloon, despite the fact that it's impossible (not improbable, impossible, no matter the technology) that a balloon of any sort could move that way, that fast, and then explode. *Shrug* Personally, I think the government knows everything that's going on. Is it aliens? Might not be. Could just be government crafts. But why the hell don't they just say "Top secret." instead of giving STUPID excuses? I think a more important question is - If they are aliens, why in the hell are we shooting at them? That's the dumbest thing I can think of doing. You don't fire upon someone who out-tech's you, you'll get smoked. :P I'm under the understanding, though, that the government shoots them down to collect technology. Things like microwaves, fiberoptics, microchips and a load of other stuff came directly from alien space ships that were shot down by the government. Oh well. The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 As much as i love conspiracys i don't beleive there is one surrounding rhw US government and aliens. Why? If aliens are true they don't just land in the USA. Other countries would have seen them, and the chances the American government has special contacts with them over everyone else is possible. However everyone else's rulers would know about them if they landed in their own country. I can't beleive every leader in the world for the past 50 years would cover it up. I also don't beleive that such a secret could be held back if there was real proof or who determines which president knows about it. Is their a secret agency who deem whether presidents are trusting enough to tell them about it or what? With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 +1 At least most of the time you do this (every post) you have something to contribute to the thread. It's lame even then. At the OP: Is this a joke?Whats an OP? this topic isn't a joke. As much as i love conspiracys i don't beleive there is one surrounding rhw US government and aliens. Why? If aliens are true they don't just land in the USA. Other countries would have seen them, and the chances the American government has special contacts with them over everyone else is possible. However everyone else's rulers would know about them if they landed in their own country. I can't beleive every leader in the world for the past 50 years would cover it up. I also don't beleive that such a secret could be held back if there was real proof or who determines which president knows about it. Is their a secret agency who deem whether presidents are trusting enough to tell them about it or what?from the research I have done, the last president that was told was Kennedy. He was assassinated due to the fact that he wanted to reveal the information to the world, this compromised there objectives to harvest as much technology from the downed crafts as possible, therefore, he was assassinated. No president has been told since. NASA and another group whom I cannot remember the name of head the operations. I'm sure that some people in the government know of it but not the president. Some government's have released info on what they know of the issue, that is why there is more evidence being released constantly. However, the U.S. were the only ones (to the reasearching knowledge) that have successfully found a downed ship/gunned one down. Other countries have not been successful in this issue so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I do have a facsination of aliens as well. Its deffinitly an incredibly interesting subject, even if our idea of what an alien looks like isn't true. (Greys, for example). I used to do a lot of research about them back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBOSRUS Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 ~Aliens are alive if Allah says so. That's the only thing I'll beleive. If it's in the Qu'ran, then it's true. O:) ~Oh, and also I read somewhere that it would take only 48 hours for the whole world ( or the part that has radio / t.v. / internet access ) to know if the U.S. found / kept aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 I do have a facsination of aliens as well. Its deffinitly an incredibly interesting subject, even if our idea of what an alien looks like isn't true. (Greys, for example). I used to do a lot of research about them back in the day.the type you are referencing is only one among about 56 species that are believed to have visited earth. That is alot :shock: . The grey ones with beady eyes that you see in sci-fi flicks? they are based similar to the "zeta reticula greys" as we call them. They live in a galaxy outside of ours called zeta reticula as scientists call it. ~Aliens are alive if Allah says so. That's the only thing I'll beleive. If it's in the Qu'ran, then it's true. O:) ~Oh, and also I read somewhere that it would take only 48 hours for the whole world ( or the part that has radio / t.v. / internet access ) to know if the U.S. found / kept aliens.What exactly do you mean? if the government ever released the info sure. But if they kept it to themselves it would not be. Very few people that are high ranked would risk releasing info, in the fear of death. Yes, death. again, I'll post this link. An hour and a half documentary made in 2006 about the current stance on the alien issue. its very interesting and informative: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 02&q=alien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Ah, im going to watch that documentary now :) With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonking Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I really doubt any extra terrestrials have visted Earth, or been seen by a human anywhere, the whole government conspiracy thing is really pushed too much, when we don't even have the slightest bit of evidence that there is even any intelligent life outside of our world. Though I do believe in the possiblility that there is intelligent life outside of Earth. ~^v^~Ex-Leader of the Divine Flames of Redemption~^v^~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I think there could be other life out there, but popular belief says that they would be a super advanced race. Not necessarily. I think there may be fledgling life out there, such as microorganisms and the like, on planets similar to ours, at a similar (or greater, becuase the sun is below average size [correct me if i'm wrong]) distance from a star. And I dont think silicon would replace carbon the the basis of thier biology, as some people theorise, infact I think that these microorganisms could be similarto the ones we have here on earth (if the conditions are similar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 I think there could be other life out there, but popular belief says that they would be a super advanced race. Not necessarily. I think there may be fledgling life out there, such as microorganisms and the like, on planets similar to ours, at a similar (or greater, becuase the sun is below average size [correct me if i'm wrong]) distance from a star. And I dont think silicon would replace carbon the the basis of thier biology, as some people theorise, infact I think that these microorganisms could be similarto the ones we have here on earth (if the conditions are similar).Since the universe is seemingly infinitely there are probably life forms on the whole range. The range being ones that are single celled, bacteria like organisms on other planets to super beings far more advanced then us. A lot of people seem to think that it has to go one way or the other when in truth it almost certainly goes both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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