Like I've said, terrorism is a technique. A technique is a skill that is meant to be used in specific way for one or multiple purposes. If this was a weapon, you'll need a protection to shield off against it. However technology improves the weapon to improve the weapons and the shield at the same time. At the end, the act of terrorism is still there.

 

 

 

It's also why the act of spreading terror in this world will never be eradicated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly. It is not a political idealogy that can be defeated, it is not a set of culturual moral standards that can be replaced. It's a technique to wage a war, to reach a political goal. In purpose, it has more similarities to a propaganda action than it has to a battle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Definitions of terrorism on the Web:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* is defined by the US Department of Defense as "the unlawful use of -- or threatened use of -- force or violence against individuals or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives."

 

 

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... ssary.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's amusingly ambivalent. So what the heck do you call it when it's lawful, whatever that means? Shock and Awe?

Kill all religious people. Each regilion has extremests, and they're the ones who cause the most terror.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unless you're talking about terror to the earth, then kill all living things! :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then you would kill everyone, since everyone has a religion they believe in. Even if you don't believe in anything, you'll still be bias to one religion or more religions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about murders? There not extremists for a religion, yet they strike fear in anyone that sees them.

To put it simply, you cant rid the world of terrorism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Every policy decision that any country makes (particularly in foreign policy) causes disagreement of some sort, the more important the plan then usually there will be more disagreement which can then be the catalyst for war and/or terrorist activity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also the term 'terrorism' is such a subjective term, its just like the saying 'one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.' For example when America was fighting Britain for Independance Im sure politicains in Britain considered the Americans terrorist rebels however, that doesnt nesseccarily make it so - it all depends on what side you are on and what the media is saying.

I don't think we've had enough controversy in this thread yet, so lemme step in a present my views?

 

 

 

I have two really,

 

 

 

1.) Segregation. I don't mean racially either. Extremeist fools, i feel, should be plucked from society at an as early stage as possible, and simply abandoned somewhere with other like-minded people. The British exporting convicts to Australia a few centuries ago was similar, except they weren't very selective. They deported people for looking at someone the wrong way. If this was done successfully, in every country, a hell of a lot of the terrorism around would be prevented. People wouldn't have the chance to convert others into fanatics as they would be deported before theyd printed their leaflets.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2.) The banning of organised religion. I know that im going to be flamed to a well done crisp for this, but i honestly see no good in religion. I feel it creates far far more problems that it solves, and i dont think it solves any at all in the first place. All it does is create tensions between different religions who cannot stick to their policies of tolerance. I feel that if it were to be outlawed, eventually, after it had ebbed away from the public mind, terrorism would have a sharp decline, as the other issues which spark terrorism are minor compared to religion IMO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

flame away....

I don't think we've had enough controversy in this thread yet, so lemme step in a present my views?

 

 

 

I have two really,

 

 

 

1.) Segregation. I don't mean racially either. Extremeist fools, i feel, should be plucked from society at an as early stage as possible, and simply abandoned somewhere with other like-minded people. The British exporting convicts to Australia a few centuries ago was similar, except they weren't very selective. They deported people for looking at someone the wrong way. If this was done successfully, in every country, a hell of a lot of the terrorism around would be prevented. People wouldn't have the chance to convert others into fanatics as they would be deported before theyd printed their leaflets.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2.) The banning of organised religion. I know that im going to be flamed to a well done crisp for this, but i honestly see no good in religion. I feel it creates far far more problems that it solves, and i dont think it solves any at all in the first place. All it does is create tensions between different religions who cannot stick to their policies of tolerance. I feel that if it were to be outlawed, eventually, after it had ebbed away from the public mind, terrorism would have a sharp decline, as the other issues which spark terrorism are minor compared to religion IMO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

flame away....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion does cause tension, even in the religion that is on the same side. here is an example:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Bible was originated from the Middle East area(where the Euphrates and other rivers supposedly were supposed to lie) and the culture was of course Jewish. But then the Catholic church came along(many centuries later) and decided to have there own views on God so they can control what people do. Because of the oppression the catholic church put on people other religions sparked from that such as Methodists, Presbyterian, and Baptists. I recognize the Jews as God's "chosen" people, but the other churches do not want to except what the Bible has written. Then there is the Muslim side of things, where they accuse us of stealing the Koran from them and vice versa.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of the religions of today could be combined into one because of the roots being so close together, but I doubt that is ever going to happen.

Although I do feel religion does help alot of people (and am religious myself), I have to agree religion does create conflict. However- this oftenly is a cause of misinterpretation.

 

 

 

Almost all religions preach peace (yes, the Islam too), so those who do attack others in aren't following their own religion. It think it's rather those people, or those misinterpretations, that need to be dealt with instead of religion itself.

No Force could stop terrorism. One will be defeated and another one will be born!! It is just the world we live in... I also agree with mass genocide idea! lol

Although I do feel religion does help alot of people, I have to agree religion does create conflict. However- this oftenly is a cause of misinterpretation.

 

 

 

Almost all religions preach peace (yes, the Islam too), so those who do attack others aren't following their own religion. It think it's rather those people, or those misinterpretations, that need to be dealt with instead of religion itself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, but if religion were to be erradicated, over time the extremeists would stop having an excuse to hide behind. They wouldnt have been inspired to 'uphold the name of their faith' because there wouldnt have been one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And allthough it is off topic, and illegal atm, i would like one good thing about religion to be named.

 

Although I do feel religion does help alot of people, I have to agree religion does create conflict. However- this oftenly is a cause of misinterpretation.

 

 

 

Almost all religions preach peace (yes, the Islam too), so those who do attack others aren't following their own religion. It think it's rather those people, or those misinterpretations, that need to be dealt with instead of religion itself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, but if religion were to be erradicated, over time the extremeists would stop having an excuse to hide behind. They wouldnt have been inspired to 'uphold the name of their faith' because there wouldnt have been one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And allthough it is off topic, and illegal atm, i would like one good thing about religion to be named.

 

 

 

- It has helped alot of people through a tough time.

 

 

 

And about eradicating religion, i don't think that is possible, really.

- It has helped alot of people through a tough time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i was hoping you would say this. I recently have gone through the hardest period of my life. I won't go into details, because its pretty bad, but it concerns ex-best-friends, and girls. Exactely.

 

 

 

I didn't turn to religion as others might say i should have, but instead i simply turned to my remaining friends, and the whole affair made my friendship with these other people 100 times better, and im happier now than ever.

 

 

 

Now religion gives people the option of swapping the friends i turned to, got support from, got advised from etc with God, or maybe a Minister or w/e. This may well work fine, but its unecessary, as my friends have proven.

You don't switch your friends for God or something. You don't just say "bye friends, see ya later" and only depend or God. That's just silly :?

 

 

 

What to turn to when you have nobody left? Alot of people in poor countries have that problem. The church is sometimes their last resort. They can get help there and sometimes that help can be found nowhere else.

 

 

 

Lots of Christian organisations (and other ones, with or without a religious background) have help centers there. You know what? They're not brainwashing people to become Christian in those centers. True, alot of people become Christian there, but there are also people who do not convert to Christianity, nor start to believe there. But those who do become religious, get alot of support out of it. I know a priest who went to south America and he told me a bit about his experience. He said those people are really happy they have something to rely on. It pulls them through. You can't say religion does nothing good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

=>I want to stress however that I'm not trying to shove anything down your throat or anything. If I do come over like that, I'm sorry :)

 

 

 

I'm also not trying to get everybody Christian, it's just an example.

Yes, but if religion were to be erradicated, over time the extremeists would stop having an excuse to hide behind. They wouldnt have been inspired to 'uphold the name of their faith' because there wouldnt have been one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then they'd hide behind political fronts, like communism, democracy, or downright nationalism ("Give us our country!") or whatever other inspring cause you might find where terrorism is perhaps the only way to actually fight for what you believe in.

 

 

 

=>I want to stress however that I'm not trying to shove anything down your throat or anything. If I do come over like that, I'm sorry :)

 

 

 

I'm also not trying to get everybody Christian, it's just an example.

 

 

 

dont worry, you're not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to counter that, i say the church is still very helpful, but in reality, unecessary. A non-religion based aid foundation could do the work just as fine, and to be honest, i don't believe the sort of statistics the christian ones give out about conversion numbers. I bet many or the those who have been 'converted' sinply do it for the favouratism im 100% sure the christian organisations give to them.

 

Yes, but if religion were to be erradicated, over time the extremeists would stop having an excuse to hide behind. They wouldnt have been inspired to 'uphold the name of their faith' because there wouldnt have been one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then they'd hide behind political fronts, like communism, democracy, or downright nationalism ("Give us our country!") or whatever other inspring cause you might find where terrorism is perhaps the only way to actually fight for what you believe in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

very very sorry for the double post, but i don't trust myself to incorporate this into the other post without screwing up..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know full well they would then find other fronts, but at least it would be a start. It would erradicate their most used and, argueably, their most justifiable reason for their acts.

You may have a point. Still, I think belief is something that is in every human, and is needed. I can't really explain why. Yes, it's stereotypical, but I have to admit that is how it really is.

 

 

 

Religion is there to give people support, and preach certain morals.

 

 

 

Like be good to others, no motter who and don't fight wars etc...Maybe that's it's function and that's why religion is needed?

You may have a point. Still, I think belief is something that is in every human, and is needed. I can't really explain why. Yes, it's stereotypical, but I have to admit that is how it really is.

 

 

 

Religion is there to give people support, and preach certain morals.

 

 

 

Like be good to others, no motter who and don't fight wars etc...Maybe that's it's function and that's why religion is needed?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i have absolutely no faith in anything other-worldly though, does this mean i have no morals? Or that i'm not human?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I get all my standards from society and my parents. My first experience with religion was when i was old enough to have made my mind up about the lack of a God, and so it has never made any impressions on me. Does this make me a social outcast?

How can we rid the world of terrorism?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~You can't get rid of "terrorism". Terrorism is in many different countries not just the Middle East. (Had to point that out to the pathetic fat American idiots)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Maybe you can get rid of the greed, then you can at least stop a small percent of terrorism. (President Bush declares war on Iraq. The war was mainly fought to secure the Oil in Iraq. Without the Oil from Iraq, the Oil prices in America would skyrocket! Also, I see that as an act of terrorism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Maybe you can get rid of the prejudice that countries have. America in their constitution states they do not favor one religion. However, you see that everything that happens is under Christianity. Schools get Christian holidays off, not Islamic ones. Schools says under "god" in the pledge, which indicates it. This leads to unrest and hate from different countries which sparks terrorism.

To the religous arguement:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion, is basically useless, just a bunch of unprovable theories about the unknown, why we came to be here, how we came to be here, life after death, ect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though many are under the delusion that their religion is undoubtedly wrong, even though they have absolutly no evidence whatsoever, that even includes those who believe the answer lies in science. Which leads to much controversy; constant fighting, death, even wars can come from this, its a never enhding cycle, that I really doubt will ever end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a possibility that someone is right, though its really doubtful that anyone in existance has the true answer so its not worth fighting over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion has caused many problems, and will continue to cause problems, we are better off without it, though human curiosity prevents that from ever happening.

To the religous arguement:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion, is basically useless, just a bunch of unprovable theories about the unknown, why we came to be here, how we came to be here, life after death, ect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though many are under the delusion that their religion is undoubtedly wrong, even though they have absolutly no evidence whatsoever, that even includes those who believe the answer lies in science. Which leads to much controversy; constant fighting, death, even wars can come from this, its a never enhding cycle, that I really doubt will ever end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a possibility that someone is right, though its really doubtful that anyone in existance has the true answer so its not worth fighting over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion has caused many problems, and will continue to cause problems, we are better off without it, though human curiosity prevents that from ever happening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In my Eyes evolution is the same way that you view religion. Evolution is a bunch of facts bunched up together trying to prove a point but actually just makes them seem stupid.(Do not flame me for this, keep your responses civilized so we don't have to close this topic. I like it alot :) )

 

To the religous arguement:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion, is basically useless, just a bunch of unprovable theories about the unknown, why we came to be here, how we came to be here, life after death, ect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though many are under the delusion that their religion is undoubtedly wrong, even though they have absolutly no evidence whatsoever, that even includes those who believe the answer lies in science. Which leads to much controversy; constant fighting, death, even wars can come from this, its a never enhding cycle, that I really doubt will ever end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a possibility that someone is right, though its really doubtful that anyone in existance has the true answer so its not worth fighting over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion has caused many problems, and will continue to cause problems, we are better off without it, though human curiosity prevents that from ever happening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In my Eyes evolution is the same way that you view religion. Evolution is a bunch of facts bunched up together trying to prove a point but actually just makes them seem stupid.(Do not flame me for this, keep your responses civilized so we don't have to close this topic. I like it alot :) )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really, if you want me to get into this arguement, evolution has evidence to back it up, but technically, it doesn't disprove religion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though that is not the point I am making, this was not an attack on any religion, I was merely stating the facts, any religion could be right, but only one theory can be right and its not very likely anyone in existance has found it, its possible, but not likely.

Terrorism can be the same thing as freedom, it just depends on what side you are on. Terrorist acts will continue untill humans as a whole evolve into a species of more understanding. ORif we going into a nuclear holocaust and the world itself is destroyed.

 

To the religous arguement:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion, is basically useless, just a bunch of unprovable theories about the unknown, why we came to be here, how we came to be here, life after death, ect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though many are under the delusion that their religion is undoubtedly wrong, even though they have absolutly no evidence whatsoever, that even includes those who believe the answer lies in science. Which leads to much controversy; constant fighting, death, even wars can come from this, its a never enhding cycle, that I really doubt will ever end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a possibility that someone is right, though its really doubtful that anyone in existance has the true answer so its not worth fighting over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion has caused many problems, and will continue to cause problems, we are better off without it, though human curiosity prevents that from ever happening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In my Eyes evolution is the same way that you view religion. Evolution is a bunch of facts bunched up together trying to prove a point but actually just makes them seem stupid.(Do not flame me for this, keep your responses civilized so we don't have to close this topic. I like it alot :) )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let's not turn this into a religion discussion, but you may want to draw attention to what you just stated:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Evolution is a bunch of facts

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the above:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion, is basically useless, just a bunch of unprovable theories

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think religion is useless like the person above you but like he said, religion is not about facts. Evolution has happened whether you believe it or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Terrorism does happen in other countries too like kindly pointed out, in Ireland, Spain, Greece, Italy, Germany, Russia etc.. By nationalists and religious extremists. It's not a new nor a middle-eastern, nor an islamic phenomenon.

I raq'on Bush isn't the smartest shrub in the garden. :P

 

 

 

 

=>I want to stress however that I'm not trying to shove anything down your throat or anything. If I do come over like that, I'm sorry :)

 

 

 

I'm also not trying to get everybody Christian, it's just an example.

 

 

 

dont worry, you're not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to counter that, i say the church is still very helpful, but in reality, unecessary. A non-religion based aid foundation could do the work just as fine, and to be honest, i don't believe the sort of statistics the christian ones give out about conversion numbers. I bet many or the those who have been 'converted' sinply do it for the favouratism im 100% sure the christian organisations give to them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're digging yourself a hole calling a Christian Organization Liars. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Evolution has happened whether you believe it or not.

 

 

 

Ah, Good to see we can count on you to tell us what's happened and what hasn't thousands of years ago. And especially since it hasn't been proven yet. It just makes the decision making that so much bit easier, with you around. THANKS BLUELANCER! :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^^ Note the Sarcasm

w00t im going to reply rudely so im able to say ive flamed the president of India, jk