None2None Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Well, as stereotypes may offend many people, and may not be true for everyone, they're most likely there because most of a certain type of people have that trait in common...I wont name any because I dont want to offend anyone...but... Discuss... :) ~ Clicky for the blog of No Cb Skils ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irulepoker Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I think it is. In some cases anyway. Meh. Just my opinion! :D My Farewell thread. Please post nicely, or die. :^_^:Yea, I'd vote for him too. But I don't think they let Iraqis vote :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I think it is. In some cases anyway. Meh. Just my opinion! :D Yeah...Well...Some of your other opinions were questionable... I think stereotyping is wrong to an extent. A harmless stereotypical joke, however, isn't that bad. Kind of like South Park. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonpost Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I believe you are asking the same question as the thread asking "Is racist prejudice always unjust?" Maybe not the exact same, but the same principle applies. Runescape Name: "unbug07"Expand your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irulepoker Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I think it is. In some cases anyway. Meh. Just my opinion! :D Yeah...Well...Some of your other opinions were questionable... I think stereotyping is wrong to an extent. A harmless stereotypical joke, however, isn't that bad. Kind of like South Park. :P Yeah well, that's the past. Forget about it. :D My Farewell thread. Please post nicely, or die. :^_^:Yea, I'd vote for him too. But I don't think they let Iraqis vote :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I think it is. In some cases anyway. Meh. Just my opinion! :D Yeah...Well...Some of your other opinions were questionable... I think stereotyping is wrong to an extent. A harmless stereotypical joke, however, isn't that bad. Kind of like South Park. :P Yeah well, that's the past. Forget about it. :D Sometimes, the past isn't so easily forgotten, and sometimes it greatly affects someone's reputation. This is one of those times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemathonical Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The occasional steroetype is alright, as long as its a bit of a joke. But the sterotypes saying that all muslims are terrorists is crap. ^Sir Jem 05-The Bunny Drinking Blog?^ Click it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryp0tt3rules Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Not always, sometimes people can stereotype in a good way the definition of it is- connecting a person to a group while it is mostly referred to as bad, I would say it isn't always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsessive_Passion Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Stereotyping isn't wrong, if used properly and in the right context. It's a method of simplification, just like some tools used in economics, which are pure simplifications of reality used for analytical purposes. Just as others have said, there are positive and negative stereotypes. What if you used a positive stereotype in a sarcastic manner? I guess it works both ways... In short: no, I don't think stereotyping is wrong. I think it's one of our methods to help cope with such a diverse and complex world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I believe you are asking the same question as the thread asking "Is racist prejudice always unjust?" Maybe not the exact same, but the same principle applies. Except stereotypes don't always apply to race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemathonical Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I believe you are asking the same question as the thread asking "Is racist prejudice always unjust?" Maybe not the exact same, but the same principle applies. Except stereotypes don't always apply to race. e.g All blondes are dumb. ^Sir Jem 05-The Bunny Drinking Blog?^ Click it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrencekill Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Depends on the context and way it's used. Some are harmless, others are very critical or hurtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvillexvalox Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I only use stereotypes in jokes, not when assuming something about a person. I love to make jokes, but theres a logical limit I set. 1. Think about the stereotype, is it negetive, or just something random. Negetive: Muslims-terrorist, emo-cutting Random: Blacks-fried chicken 2. Think about how the stereotype was made. Bad: A few terrorists were muslims, therefor the stereo type started Alright: Vast numbers of mexicans immigrating to the US to do jobs, therefor, mexican-landscaper stereotypes start. 3. How often is the stereotype seen as true in society? Not often: "Emo kids" cutting themselves Often: Mexicans (probably immigrants) Mowing grass Not meant to offend anyone in any way, just trying to explain how to chose which stereotypes are okay to use in jokes, not in assuming something about a person Obviously, I tend away from the Negetive/Bad/Not often stereotypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 they're most likely there because most of a certain type of people have that trait in common For the most part, stereotypes were made to degrade a group, that way you can exert power over them without feeling like you are taking advantage of them. Over time, the stereotypes evolved into generalizations and because whichever group was told they were this way for their entire lives, act this way. If your told you are stupid your entire life, you will begine to believe it, and begin acting like it. Same thing. ~M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonpost Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I believe you are asking the same question as the thread asking "Is racist prejudice always unjust?" Maybe not the exact same, but the same principle applies. Except stereotypes don't always apply to race. e.g All blondes are dumb. That's why I said the principle is the same. :) To be constructive, stereotypes have historically served to protect. They are only bad when they cannot be changed in light of evidence that they are not true. Initial stereotypes help to protect and help to predict. Runescape Name: "unbug07"Expand your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Obviously stereotypes are formed for a reason, that a no-brainer. But just because your part of a group of people, dosen't mean you should be judged like all of them; everyone is different and unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctp080188 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I know myself I am very stereotypical when it comes to certain people. But I keep it inside, I only think these things. My stereotypes would never stop me from approaching someone or from being their friend, I just have a prejudgement of them in my head before I speak to them. I am sometimes wrong, which should probably prove to me that I should stop, but I can't help it. The thing is my stereotypes are not always a negative thing, just a guess at who the person is, and what their interests are based on looks. I don't think it is bad unless acted upon in a negative way, as some stereotypes I don't even believe to be offensive, just a means of simplifying people's behaviour. SHH HUT YUH MUH. DERKHED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I'm SKINNY, so I MUST be anorexic I'm EMO, so I MUST cut my wrists. I'm BLACK, so I MUST carry a gun. I'm HISPANIC, so I MUST be dirty. I'm ASIAN, so I MUST be smart. I'm NOT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, so I MUST be a loser. I'm JEWISH, so I MUST be greedy. I'm GAY, so I MUST have AIDS. I'm a LESBIAN, so I MUST have a sex-tape. I'm ARAB, so I MUST be a terrorist. I SPEAK MY MIND, so I MUST be a [bleep]. I'm OVERWEIGHT, so I MUST have a problem with self control. I'm RELIGIOUS, so I MUST shove my beliefs down your throat. I'm an ATHEIST, so I MUST hate the world. I'm REPUBLICAN, so I MUST not care about poor people. I'm DEMOCRAT, so I MUSTmust not believe in being responsible. I'm SOUTHERN, so I MUST be white trash. I TAKE ANTI-DEPRESSANTS, so I MUST be crazy. I'm a GUY, so I MUST only want to get into your pants. I'm a GIRL, so I MUST be over-dramatic. I'm IRISH, so I MUST have a bad drinking problem. I'm INDIAN, so I MUST own a convenient store. I'm NATIVE AMERICAN, so I MUST dance around a fire screaming like a savage. I DON'T LIVE WITH MY CHILD, so I MUST be a dead beat parent. I'm ATHLETIC, so I MUST be stupid. I'm PREPPY, so I MUST shun those who don't wear Abercrombie & Hollister. I'm a TEENAGER, so I MUST drink and do drugs. I'm a CHEERLEADER, so I MUST be a [bleep]. I'm a PUNK, so I MUST do drugs. I'm YOUNG, so I MUST be naive. I'm RICH, so I MUST be a conceited snob. I WEAR BLACK, so I MUST be a goth. I'm BLONDE, so I MUST be a stupid ditz. I'm WHITE, so I MUST be a nagging, steal-your-money kind of girlfriend. I'm PRETTY, so I MUST not be a virign. I'm CUBAN, so I MUST spend my spare time rolling cigars. I'm MEXICAN, so I MUST have hopped the border. I'm NOT A VIRGIN, so I MUST be easy. I FELL IN LOVE WITHA MARRIED MAN, so I MUST be a home-wrecking [bleep]. I'm a TEENAGE MOM, so I MUST be an irresponsible [bleep]. I'm ITALIAN, so my family MUST own a pizzeria. I GOT A CAR FOR MY BIRTHDAY, so I MUST be a spoiled brat. I HAVE STRAIGHT A'S, so I MUST have no social life. I'm REALLY INTO MY MUSIC, so I MUST be scene. I DYE MY HAIR CRAZY COLORS, so I MUST be looking for attention. I'm INTO THEATRE & ART, so I MUST be a homosexual. I'm a VEGETARIAN, so I MUST be a crazy political activist. I HAVE A BUNCH OF GUY FRIENDS, so I MUST be [bleep]ing them all. I HAVE A BUNCH OF GIRL FRIENDS, so I MUST be gay. I'm COLOMBIAN, so I MUST be a drug dealer. I WEAR WHAT I WANT, so I MUST be a poser. I'm RUSSIAN, so I MUST not care about people's feelings. I'm GERMAN, so I MUST be a Nazi. I'm BRAZILLIAN, so I MUST be a [bleep]. I'm PUERTO RICAN, so I MUST rob, do graffiti and stab people. I WEAR GIRL PANTS, so I MUST have no friends. My BOYFRIENDS OLDER THAN ME, so he MUST only be w/ me 4 sex. I WEAR LEG BRACES, so I MUST be "crippled" this is to help people understand that stereotypes are dumb! and normally are not correct...get to know people dont judge them. Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemathonical Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Well said^^^^ ^Sir Jem 05-The Bunny Drinking Blog?^ Click it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Too Far Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 yep hate streio types (nice list you made some more country's could do so that evryone atleast has one of the list) and i think prejudce always is wrong! on a few cases not (i have a bomb in my bag so im terrorist is not real wrong atleast i would be scared of some one with a bom in its bag) i kind of am 3 of that list and i hate al of em (the whole list thoug the whole list cant ever be 1 person) the 3 of the list i am conciderd are: I WEAR BLACK, so I MUST be a goth. I HAVE STRAIGHT A'S, so I MUST have no social life. I HAVE A BUNCH OF GIRL FRIENDS, so I MUST be gay. ( i am a boy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 yep hate streio types (nice list you made some more country's could do so that evryone atleast has one of the list) and i think prejudce always is wrong! on a few cases not (i have a bomb in my bag so im terrorist is not real wrong atleast i would be scared of some one with a bom in its bag) i kind of am 3 of that list and i hate al of em (the whole list thoug the whole list cant ever be 1 person) the 3 of the list i am conciderd are: I WEAR BLACK, so I MUST be a goth. I HAVE STRAIGHT A'S, so I MUST have no social life. I HAVE A BUNCH OF GIRL FRIENDS, so I MUST be gay. ( i am a boy) but predujice is more about sexuality kinda like my x is...why o why...='( but meh...if she dont like it tough on her but on topic: steroytypes are all around us and will be to the day we die Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctp080188 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 yep hate streio types (nice list you made some more country's could do so that evryone atleast has one of the list) and i think prejudce always is wrong! on a few cases not (i have a bomb in my bag so im terrorist is not real wrong atleast i would be scared of some one with a bom in its bag) i kind of am 3 of that list and i hate al of em (the whole list thoug the whole list cant ever be 1 person) the 3 of the list i am conciderd are: I WEAR BLACK, so I MUST be a goth. I HAVE STRAIGHT A'S, so I MUST have no social life. I HAVE A BUNCH OF GIRL FRIENDS, so I MUST be gay. ( i am a boy) but predujice is more about sexuality[/b[ kinda like my x is...why o why...='( but meh...if she dont like it tough on her but on topic] Prejudice is judging someone before you know them, not necessarily just about sexuality, it can be anything, clothes, hair, race. The thing is, everyone judges people before they know them, it's just what they do with those judgements that is the clinching factor. SHH HUT YUH MUH. DERKHED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusqi Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Stereotyping isn't wrong, if used properly and in the right context. It's a method of simplification, just like some tools used in economics, which are pure simplifications of reality used for analytical purposes. Just as others have said, there are positive and negative stereotypes. What if you used a positive stereotype in a sarcastic manner? I guess it works both ways... In short: no, I don't think stereotyping is wrong. I think it's one of our methods to help cope with such a diverse and complex world. Obviously stereotypes are formed for a reason, that a no-brainer. But just because you're part of a group of people, dosen't mean you should be judged like all of them; everyone is different and unique. I think that both of these quotes are at the heart of the matter. Stereotyping does simplify the world, but the world isn't simple and people don't appreciate being simplified. I think that education is necessary to get people to understand when they make stereotypes. It may not be possible to reverse stereotyping, because we stereotype before we have a chance to stop ourselves - it's automatic. However, we can at least recognise when it occurs and do our best to make up for it. For it is the greyness of dusk that reigns.The time when the living and the dead exist as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvieee Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 White males are the only people you can be racist or sexist against now-a-days. Billy Connelly said that, well along those lines OT: Luring is sooo easy to avoid. That's what those nice signposts are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None2None Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 First of all, I'd like to clearly note that I'm not for or against them at all, just decided to make an intelligent discussion (not to say that there arn't others here) But seeing as many people are seeing some of the more irrational steriotypes, here are some more rational ones...of course, as stated before, everyone is unique, and they don't apply to everyone, but continuing on...: Chinese aswell as girls are very smart. People who ride motorcycles are tough. Boys are more "daring" or "willing to take risks"...I'd find this true in most cases. Girls care more about the way they look than guys. ~ Clicky for the blog of No Cb Skils ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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