Locke Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 California is looking to pass a bill that would ban parents from spanking children. The belief is that any physical pain inflicted on the child is unnecessary, and therefore child abuse. What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deloriagod Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I think it's just fine. I was spanked as a child and I turned out well, didn't I? I think people are becoming too over-sensitive these days. Phycial pain as punishment has been around for forever, why is it suddenly bad? I suppose they'd tell me that 'abusing' your child by spanking them will harm their fragile mind, but I'm quite a counter example. Spanking could be defined as abuse, but why should we suddenly define it as that? Internet Marketing For Newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I saw this on the news.   Spanking doesn't teach the child to behave, it just prevents them from misbehaving at the moment (a child psycholgist was hosted, and was talking about this). However, I dont really think it should be eliminated. There is a reason a spank is on the bottom; your bottom is so fatty and fleshy it really doesnt hurt all that much. As long as parents arent whipping their kids, I think spanking is alright.        Remember, this doesnt prevent it from happening in the privacy of homes; if worse abuse is occuring, its obviously not occuring in public. Therefore, this would most likely have no effect on child abuse rates.       Personally, I think we're going a bit to far on the whole "liberal" ideal. Soon children will file their own taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughnut Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 No, time outs do not work, taking away toys do not work. Physical punishment deters some problems that arise. You should not be allowed to smack your child across the face though. The hind quarters is wear all physical punishment should be dealt, and then only in a controlled manner. "A time comes when silence is betrayal" MLKJ Speak your mind, but be civil.Get mad, but do not rage.Do unto others as you would want done to yourself. "] Follow the doughnut to my blog! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 sure but only if you spank them on the behind. the way i see it, children dont like being spanked right? well if you spank them for doing something bad they wont want to do it again because they'll get spanked. if you dont spank your child he realizes that the consequences are minor such as time outs, or taking away toys, and they'll just keep going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsessive_Passion Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I was mischievous when I was little, and so my mum would occasionally spank me with a wooden spoon. To me, it's had no negative effects. Being only 3 or 4, I wouldn't have had the conscience to evaluate the necessity of the spanking, but in hindsight... I think it helped encourage discipline. I think to ban spanking is a little bit ludicrous. if done occasionally, it shouldn't be considered child abuse. If done continuously and becomes over-used as a substitute for teaching a misbehaving child to behave, then, yes, that's abusing a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 I think there is definitely a difference in hitting your kid when you get mad, and setting it as a punishment. As in, your child knows that if it does this, it will get three spanks, and when it happens, the spanks are given in a very controlled and serious manner to show it is not just a lash of emotion, but it is the consequence of wrong actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foooman Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Child abuse and discipline are completely different.       Being spanked doesn't hurt the child, it just inflicts that sharp pain for the time being, but still gets the point across. Getting whipped by a tree branch or a steel pipe is a completely different thing. Plus, unless children get hurt back or feel some sort of resistance you know they are just going to keep going about their own little ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Child abuse and discipline are completely different.       Being spanked doesn't hurt the child, it just inflicts that sharp pain for the time being, but still gets the point across. Getting whipped by a tree branch or a steel pipe is a completely different thing. Plus, unless children get hurt back or feel some sort of resistance you know they are just going to keep going about their own little ways.       Yes, they are. But I believe the government was trying to somehow lessen abuse cases by passing this. They really have no other reason to pass it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsdragon Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Spanking helps condition a child to behave and thus helps society as a whole and should thus be considered good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm not a fan of physical discipline, but I'm not against spanking - but that's the farthest I'd be ok with. I don't think spanking is the best way to discipline a child though. I mean physical discipline does work - I just think there are more effective ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deloriagod Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007  Child abuse and discipline are completely different.       Being spanked doesn't hurt the child, it just inflicts that sharp pain for the time being, but still gets the point across. Getting whipped by a tree branch or a steel pipe is a completely different thing. Plus, unless children get hurt back or feel some sort of resistance you know they are just going to keep going about their own little ways.       Yes, they are. But I believe the government was trying to somehow lessen abuse cases by passing this. They really have no other reason to pass it.       The problem is, it's not going to reduce the amount of cases. It's only going to increase them. Someone spanks their child and a neighbor sees them doing it, call the cops, +1 new case that doesn't even belong there. Internet Marketing For Newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 The people passing the bill need a good spanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm not a fan of physical discipline, but I'm not against spanking - but that's the farthest I'd be ok with. I don't think spanking is the best way to discipline a child though. I mean physical discipline does work - I just think there are more effective ways.       mind elaborating on what you think is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 mind elaborating on what you think is better?       The more severe one.   The only problem is that it diminishes character and confidence levels, and causes emotional distress.   We dont want that occuring, spanking is supposed to benefit the child, not abuse them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deloriagod Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007  I'm not a fan of physical discipline, but I'm not against spanking - but that's the farthest I'd be ok with. I don't think spanking is the best way to discipline a child though. I mean physical discipline does work - I just think there are more effective ways.       mind elaborating on what you think is better?       I was about to ask the same question. Time outs don't work, the child doesn't learn from having to do nothing for 5 minutes. Taking away their toys doesn't work, children have amazing imaginations and will occupy themselves in some other manor. What else are you to do with them? Internet Marketing For Newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errdoth Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I think spanking is just fine, it causes almost no physical pain to the child and the main effect of their crying is just umm, whats the word, to try to make a big deal of it and get their parents to feel bad? anyways, I was spanked, and I've got nothing wrong with me. Last.fm Signature Overlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm pro corporal punishment. It gets the point across. Look at your grandparents and then look at kids of our generation. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm not a fan of physical discipline, but I'm not against spanking - but that's the farthest I'd be ok with. I don't think spanking is the best way to discipline a child though. I mean physical discipline does work - I just think there are more effective ways.       You can't make blanket statements like that. It totally depends on the child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deloriagod Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm pro corporal punishment. It gets the point across. Look at your grandparents and then look at kids of our generation.       Lot's of drug/alcohol problems, teenage pregnancy, disrespect for parents/authority figures.. Yeah, I'd say our generation would have benefitted from being spanked. And if this anti-spanking thing works it's way around, we're going to have even more messed up kids. Internet Marketing For Newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 You can't make blanket statements like that. It totally depends on the child.       Grounding is also very popular. But it only works when the child is young. Grounding around the teenage years is pointless because of a teenagers general attitude (questioning the world around you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foooman Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007   Child abuse and discipline are completely different.       Being spanked doesn't hurt the child, it just inflicts that sharp pain for the time being, but still gets the point across. Getting whipped by a tree branch or a steel pipe is a completely different thing. Plus, unless children get hurt back or feel some sort of resistance you know they are just going to keep going about their own little ways.       Yes, they are. But I believe the government was trying to somehow lessen abuse cases by passing this. They really have no other reason to pass it.       The problem is, it's not going to reduce the amount of cases. It's only going to increase them. Someone spanks their child and a neighbor sees them doing it, call the cops, +1 new case that doesn't even belong there.       I think our cops have much bigger problems than a child getting spanked to tend to. Until there are less felonies being committed, this is a terrible waste of legislation. Don't fix what isn't broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsdragon Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm pro corporal punishment. It gets the point across. Look at your grandparents and then look at kids of our generation.       You can't compare us to our grandparents since most of us don't know exactly what they would do in recreation. For all some of us know is that they could have been doing stuff such as playing chicken in stolen cars or something else. We know that they were beaten and we know what they're like now, but how do we know what we'll turn out like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foooman Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007  I'm pro corporal punishment. It gets the point across. Look at your grandparents and then look at kids of our generation.       You can't compare us to our grandparents since most of us don't know exactly what they would do in recreation. For all some of us know is that they could have been doing stuff such as playing chicken in stolen cars or something else. We know that they were beaten and we know what they're like now, but how do we know what we'll turn out like?       By using our time machine durrr...       But really, there is now way to tell, but I do think that discipline helps attribute to more mature people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Spanking worked on me, that's for sure :lol: :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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