Spanking children, is it wrong?

[assassin_696]

Quite clearly it's very easy to say that parents should have the control over their children so that they don't have to spank them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But in practice of course that's ridiculous. Some children are absolute brats, and need some kind of forceful discipline. As long as it doesn't turn into child abuse (which is against the law anyway, so this bill being passed won't effect that) then there's nothing wrong.

[yomom1919]

Just a point I think should be brought up:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Many european countries have passed laws that ban spanking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont really realize their argument or view that passed the law, but it must have been preety damn good. That means that there is a good possibility it may be banned here also.

[pault]

Spanking makes more sense than giving your kids speed (adderall, ritalin) or anti-depressants (prozac, xanax), which seems to be a more popular choice than spanking in child-rearing these days. A lazy child has ADDHD, an antisocial child is depressed. The government should stay out of how parents discipline their children unless there are allegations of abuse, they should spend more time trying to end Americas chemical solutions to personal problems.

[yomom1919]

Spanking makes more sense than giving your kids speed (adderall, ritalin) or anti-depressants (prozac, xanax), which seems to be a more popular choice than spanking in child-rearing these days. A lazy child has ADDHD, an antisocial child is depressed. The government should stay out of how parents discipline their children unless there are allegations of abuse, they should spend more time trying to end Americas chemical solutions to personal problems.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Antisocial children have a much more common problem than depression; autism. Autism is very common, and its also hard to notice. Since the drugs for it have very bad side affects (agression being one of them), alot of children do not take medication for Autism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, I dont really understand your point; why would you spank a child with a mental disorder? That makes absolutely no sense. ADHD, ADD, Autism, and Depression are all mental disorders. Spanking doesnt help at all, it makes it much worse, and could potentially lead to suicide.

[Sir_Alex85]

Just a little story:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been spanked only a few times. The last time, I was in..grade 1 or something? I was sick, and as my mom went to spank me, I made "Duty" in my pants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SQUISH

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Never got spanked again. That's a true story.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I have no idea on how spanking affects the child. But hey. I grew up fine. Right?

[Devilsdragon]

 

 

It totally depends on the child.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A more mature child won't give a damn about a spanking, but if they can't go out and see their friends, play with their toys, watcch TV or read, then THAT'S real punishment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A six year old will imagine himself a treasure seeking ninja-pirate. So spanking would work bettter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A more mature kid is most likely older. Parents don't hit older kids, it's too "childish" to spank a teen. They are more likely to spank a 6 year old than a teenager. So that really doesn't matter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wel it can also matter that teens are often bigger then their parrents im 10 centimeters taller and only 13 so i think some parents could be afraid of spanking them

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It also has to do with pain tolerance. What a 6 year old kid will cry about for 20 minutes probably won't phase a teenage. I was talking to my haircutter about the soap in the eyes, at 8ish the kids act like they're dying, screaming and stomping their feet. At 14 they probably have learned to just open their eyes and it'll go away.

[pault]

Antisocial children have a much more common problem than depression; autism. Autism is very common, and its also hard to notice. Since the drugs for it have very bad side affects (agression being one of them), alot of children do not take medication for Autism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure many young people do suffer from autism and the lack of positive medical solutions to their problem, yet the most important medicine of our times is marijuana. Acting as an anti-convulsant, relaxing stimulant, and overall mental wellness booster, look no further than mans oldest medicine (ancient Chinese cannabis jars prove it's healthy helpful use back into antiquity).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unlike manufactured prescription drugs, marijuana is neither addictive nor dangerous. I've seen kids doing lines of ritalin in the bathroom, my friends popping five times their normal dosage of xanax for a light trip, and as many abuses of these common drugs as you can think of. They are all more dangerous and less effective than marijuana.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, I dont really understand your point; why would you spank a child with a mental disorder? That makes absolutely no sense. ADHD, ADD, Autism, and Depression are all mental disorders. Spanking doesnt help at all, it makes it much worse, and could potentially lead to suicide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, that wasn't my point. Most children who are on doctor prescribed speed or anti-depresants do not have an illness which requires their use. "Special" children already recieve a much larger per student funding than normal children, and I see the dumbing down of average students with dangerous drugs as a way to make everyone "Special". Screw that, smart kids need to achieve without being burdened with the mainstreaming of [developmentally delayed]ed children or having prescription drugs pushed on them by their parents.

[mini193]

its not that bad. It didn't hurt me much and it taught me to be good so I don't get spanked. Just look how good I turned out

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And now, my minions, we take over Canada!

[gryphon618]

Remember what Gandhi said: "Spare the rod and Spoil the child"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lets look at a 3rd world country like India or China:

 

 

 

Kids are spanked black and blue from the time they are born, and behave badly. The products:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most kids grow up to be polite, smart adults who now know how to control themselves. Look at how many "jobs are taken" by Indians/Chinese people because their parents spanked them and made them study. Look at how they treat their elders- with respect. Why? Because kids realize their elders spanked them black and blue out of LOVE!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now look at America's spank-free "loving" society. The kids don't get repremended by spanking. Mostly, kids don't get repremended at all. What does that lead to? Kids smart-alecking parents, and rebelling, doing the opposite of what they are supposed to. Parents have that pent-up frustration and their blood pressure rises, bringing their health down.

 

 

 

10 years down the road, the kid drops out of high school, pretty much neglects his parents in THEIR time of need. Why is there a very high amount of elderly people in elderly homes? Sure, some need it, but most are just neglected by their kids.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In simpler words, notice the culture in India/China. Kids are beaten black and blue, but they know their parents were doing what was best for them. Look at America. Kids aren't spanked, and they turn into brats who neglect their parents in their parent's time of need.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To those of you saying "Use another method," please tell me a method that works.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In most schools in the US, they have the detention/office refferal method where your teacher just yells at you until you've really annoyed them to death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In my class, all kids do is goof OFF! I mean, I haven't seen anyone but 3 kids actually work. The rest are talking, drawing, wisecracking the teacher, etc. The thought of a detention scares nobody. "z0mg I'm gonna get a detention my life is over!11" is only seen in goody-goody-2-shoes. No one cares about school. I'm in high school, and 4 more years of school are remaining. From the time of kindergarden, no one has "gotten mature" and has become serious about life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If we brought back spanking, everyone would shut up and learn to focus, from day 1, which is what we need. Our teachers would actually prepare us for college, and we'd learn more. The troublemakers would get punished, and actually care that they were.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, in conclusion, spanking is IMPORTANT. I haven't seen a kid behave well without it. The lawmakers think they're "stopping child abuse" but what they are doing is causing more and more rebelling unbehaved BRATS! -.-

[darkmage099]

Idiots! Spanking is the best punishment for a kid. Not, "Go to your room young man! Go to your room [that contains a TV, and Xbox 360, a Wii, a computer with DSL, and a fridge with food]. Go to your room!"

[Adam007]

 

I'm not a fan of physical discipline, but I'm not against spanking - but that's the farthest I'd be ok with. I don't think spanking is the best way to discipline a child though. I mean physical discipline does work - I just think there are more effective ways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

mind elaborating on what you think is better?

 

 

 

I realize it depends on the child and the situation. Ideally, the parents don't have to discipline their children at all. That's what's happened with my family. My brother and I both have always had an understanding of things and kind of an equilibrium with our parents in terms of discipline. They never really punished us because we never really 'acted out' or anything, so they never had a need for any of that because we always behaved. If we knew we were doing something wrong, we just didn't do it. Not because we wanted to act all nice - we just never really had urges to overly misbehave.

 

 

 

Back on topic though, I think that's the ideal situation. It's just a rarity I guess. I think spanking just causes an awkardness (from my perspective) between parents and the child, setting the parent up as the law and the child as the person who has to avoid the law catching him/her. Without that mentality, at least in my case, kids just don't really see a need to misbehave. I'm not saying I never misbehaved, just that they didn't really punish me. They'd yell or tell me to stop doing whatever I was doing, but that's really the extent of it. I know a lot of people think kids who have parents that let them do whatever they want end up bad, but the thing is my parents let us do what we want only because we always knew ourselves what is and isn't out of limits.

[pault]

Kids smart-alecking parents, and rebelling, doing the opposite of what they are supposed to. Parents have that pent-up frustration and their blood pressure rises, bringing their health down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your right, youth rebellion occurs because parents don't beat their kids, not because it's a vital part of human growth and development closely connected with human beings rise to self-aware intelligent beings (in Ancient Greek societies which formed cradle of modern philosophy and thought, teenagers were given complete freedom to choose their own path in life). It's not as if kids in the USA are rebelling against a legitimate evil; a corrupt and lying government, a dangerous and innefective war on drugs, and a massive effort to drug up kids on manufactured speed and anti-depressents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 years down the road, the kid drops out of high school,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

High school sucks. I dropped out, best choice I ever made. I got my GED and now I'm going to college, where you can get a real education. Nothings wrong with dropping out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pretty much neglects his parents in THEIR time of need. Why is there a very high amount of elderly people in elderly homes? Sure, some need it, but most are just neglected by their kids.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With modern medicine more and more people are living older and older. People need to live their lives, not live old peoples lives for them. For thousands of years people have been complaining about how little children respect their elders, maybe the elders should shut the hell up and try to fix the world while they are adults. However much I love my parents, they are still the [wagon] who elected George Bush, allowed the disastrous war on terrorism and war on drugs to continue, helped [bleep] the environment over,

 

 

 

and allowed the events of September 11 to go uninvestigated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In simpler words, notice the culture in India/China. Kids are beaten black and blue, but they know their parents were doing what was best for them. Look at America. Kids aren't spanked, and they turn into brats who neglect their parents in their parent's time of need.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look at America, a culture of freedom and love, peace and prosperity, being dragged down by it's "Conservative" corrupt and evil government run by [wagon] who were probably spanked alot as children.

[insane]

Look at America, a culture of freedom and love, peace and prosperity, being dragged down by it's "Conservative" corrupt and evil government run by [wagon] who were probably spanked alot as children.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mind explaining how any of this is proven to be true and/or relevant?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

America might be a culture of freedom and love in your opinion, but realize that children are physically disciplined in the US.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as the conservative government being corrupt and evil, you have no basis for your claims and as far as them being spanked as children, you have absolutely no proof of that and even if you did you could never tie that to their unproven "evil" tendencies.

[pault]

 

 

 

As far as the conservative government being corrupt and evil, you have no basis for your claims and as far as them being spanked as children, you have absolutely no proof of that and even if you did you could never tie that to their unproven "evil" tendencies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The war on terror, brought about by politicians who are funded by their willingness to give no-contract bids and support companies like Bechtel who have plenty of motivation to encourage the culture of corruption (the Aqaba pipeline for example) in Washington. There is a paper trail. The Project for the New American Century, the Carlyle Group, do some research. And I'm not going to even get into the lobbyists (Jake Abramoff anyone?) or [bleep] Cheney's attempts to cover up the lying that got us into Iraq (Scooter Libby).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The war on drugs is an example of the evil of our government.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Western governments ... will lose the war against dealers unless efforts are switched to prevention and therapy... All penalties for drug users should be dropped ... Making drug abuse a crime is useless and even dangerous ... Every year we seize more and more drugs and arrest more and more dealers but at the same time the quantity available in our countries still increases... Police are losing the drug battle worldwide."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Raymond Kendall

 

 

 

secretary general of INTERPOL

 

 

 

January 1994

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Make the most of the Indian hemp seed,

 

 

 

and sow it everywhere!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

George Washington

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Albert Einstein.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Finally, most children who grew up in the era of George Bush's childhood were spanked, it's not unreasonable to assume he was. My point is more that spanking didn't save him from growing up into a weak, gormless, evil man.

[Viktorkrum77]

Just a point I think should be brought up:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Many european countries have passed laws that ban spanking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont really realize their argument or view that passed the law, but it must have been preety damn good. That means that there is a good possibility it may be banned here also.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, Sweden is one of them. But those countries are so liberal those kinds of things easily pass.

[timmay929]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 years down the road, the kid drops out of high school

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

High school sucks. I dropped out, best choice I ever made. I got my GED and now I'm going to college, where you can get a real education. Nothings wrong with dropping out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea there is. It shows your too lazy and don't want to do real work. YOU proabably weren't spanked ENOUGH when you were a kid if you wanted to do something like this. Either that or you thought you were "cool" by dropping out.

[gryphon618]

 

Kids smart-alecking parents, and rebelling, doing the opposite of what they are supposed to. Parents have that pent-up frustration and their blood pressure rises, bringing their health down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your right, youth rebellion occurs because parents don't beat their kids, not because it's a vital part of human growth and development closely connected with human beings rise to self-aware intelligent beings (in Ancient Greek societies which formed cradle of modern philosophy and thought, teenagers were given complete freedom to choose their own path in life). It's not as if kids in the USA are rebelling against a legitimate evil; a corrupt and lying government, a dangerous and innefective war on drugs, and a massive effort to drug up kids on manufactured speed and anti-depressents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, yeah, because I mean, when kids are 7-year-olds, they completely understand the evils of the world. And, I mean, EVERY SINGLE PARENT in the world who spanks their child just wants to drug them, depress them, and act like a Stalin to them. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When youths rebel against their parents, (and I mean most parents, who want the best for their child) they're rebelling for bad reasons. Have you ever seen a kid rebel against their parents for GOOD reasons? I mean, because drugs and smoking are GREAT reasons. And, oh yes, its always a good reason to push Bobby down from the Monkey Bars, especially when Mom and Dad told you not to? And its just great to call your friends (insertbadwordhere) even though Mum told you not to say that in public? Its AWESOME to go up to Pop and say "I hate you, go fall in a ditch!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, (most) parents want the best for their children, and for their children not to act like morons! Now, no "go up to your room" sort of thing really helps. I mean, most kids are gonna go to their room, log onto their computer, watch TV, or play video games. They don't think it over, and they learn NADA. Time-outs are stupid, as they get the child MORE angry. No child thinks about how its wrong, they just create a bigger tantrum and get the parents MORE annoyed. If you sit down and talk to the kid, sometimes, they won't listen, and sometimes they just forget. It doesn't really work well, and sometimes that makes kids want to rebel more!

 

 

 

Now spanking, thats a way to send a signal to the kid, "Hey that was wrong, I asked you nicely to stop, but you didn't." The kid understands its wrong, and he won't do it again. A couple of years down the road, the kid'll realize that he/she behaved wrong. Spanking works wonders!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yeah, I have seen these cases a LOT on the playground. The Bobby case actually happened to my best friend, who broke her arm because a punk wanted to push her down so that he could go on the Monkey Bars. And he didn't even get punished!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 years down the road, the kid drops out of high school,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

High school sucks. I dropped out, best choice I ever made. I got my GED and now I'm going to college, where you can get a real education. Nothings wrong with dropping out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm glad that you made that desicion, but not many people go back to college. Some are just slackers who don't BOTHER to work and get a job. Then they blame the schools, parents, Indians/Chinese people for taking their jobs, etc. because of THEIR mistake. (The good) Teachers encourage one to work hard. (Good) Parents encourage the child to pursuit his goals and dreams. I'm sure there must be at least 1 elder who can make this difference in 1 child's life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pretty much neglects his parents in THEIR time of need. Why is there a very high amount of elderly people in elderly homes? Sure, some need it, but most are just neglected by their kids.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With modern medicine more and more people are living older and older. People need to live their lives, not live old peoples lives for them. For thousands of years people have been complaining about how little children respect their elders, maybe the elders should shut the hell up and try to fix the world while they are adults. However much I love my parents, they are still the [wagon] who elected George Bush, allowed the disastrous war on terrorism and war on drugs to continue, helped [bleep] the environment over,

 

 

 

and allowed the events of September 11 to go uninvestigated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where the hell does George Bush come into this? Why bring politics? Are we discussing politics? Oh noez! Someone in Calafornia spanked their kid for being a brat and then GLOBAL WARMING HAPPENED!!!!! In New York, someone spanked their kid and then WE LOST SO MANY TROOPS IN IRAQ! :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope when you have kids, and you become older, and weaker, facing many health problems, and after working your butt off EVERY FREAKIN' DAY to provide for the kids, love them, cherish them, they come up and preach that in your face. You'd love that won't you? (and this is coming from a 13-year-old!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

In simpler words, notice the culture in India/China. Kids are beaten black and blue, but they know their parents were doing what was best for them. Look at America. Kids aren't spanked, and they turn into brats who neglect their parents in their parent's time of need.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look at America, a culture of freedom and love, peace and prosperity, being dragged down by it's "Conservative" corrupt and evil government run by [wagon] who were probably spanked alot as children.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where the hell does George Bush come into this? Why bring politics? Are we discussing politics? Oh noez! Someone in Calafornia spanked their kid for being a brat and then GLOBAL WARMING HAPPENED!!!!! In New York, someone spanked their kid and then WE LOST SO MANY TROOPS IN IRAQ! :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please, at least make SOMEWHAT VALID statements when debating :roll: .

[yomom1919]

I'm sure many young people do suffer from autism and the lack of positive medical solutions to their problem, yet the most important medicine of our times is marijuana. Acting as an anti-convulsant, relaxing stimulant, and overall mental wellness booster, look no further than mans oldest medicine (ancient Chinese cannabis jars prove it's healthy helpful use back into antiquity).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unlike manufactured prescription drugs, marijuana is neither addictive nor dangerous. I've seen kids doing lines of ritalin in the bathroom, my friends popping five times their normal dosage of xanax for a light trip, and as many abuses of these common drugs as you can think of. They are all more dangerous and less effective than marijuana.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, that wasn't my point. Most children who are on doctor prescribed speed or anti-depresants do not have an illness which requires their use. "Special" children already recieve a much larger per student funding than normal children, and I see the dumbing down of average students with dangerous drugs as a way to make everyone "Special". Screw that, smart kids need to achieve without being burdened with the mainstreaming of [developmentally delayed] children or having prescription drugs pushed on them by their parents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marajuana isnt a solution. Medical marajuana is commonly used for paitents who undergo severe pain and for rare disorders.

 

 

 

As for the side effect of marajuana, I think you need to do your reasearch:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You mention mm (medical marajuana) would help children relax:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine. Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously, that quote indicates not only increased social stress, but also increased risk of suicide, along with obvious other effects to the respatory system and heart. If marajuana is really as great as you say it is, then why is it illegal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the Second part of your post, thats not my point either. My point is what you are saying is completely irrevelant to this discussion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You mention misplacement of developmentally challenged children and misdiagnosis. Actually, you are completely and utterly wrong with your point. My mother is employed as a teacher of k-3rd grade library. She teaches around 400 children. She also has advanced psychological knowledge. The actual case is not children being placed incorrectly, its children not being labeled as "autistic", etc. There are around 40 children in her school district with problems. Some of them are not labeled, because the parents choose to simply deny anything is wrong with their child.

[dietokill2]

spanking child it stupid. so will not care time out they will because one they will hate to watch people have fun there not in it .

[assassin_696]

spanking child it stupid. so will not care time out they will because one they will hate to watch people have fun there not in it .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:wall: You just love making my job easy don't you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*waits for resulting flames to clean*

[darkmage099]

spanking child it stupid. so will not care time out they will because one they will hate to watch people have fun there not in it .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's no online translator for stupid. Please explain to me what you just said?

[Kill_Thomas9]

"Treat other how you want to be treated"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you spank little kids, expect to be spanked your self

[deloriagod]

 

spanking child it stupid. so will not care time out they will because one they will hate to watch people have fun there not in it .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:wall: You just love making my job easy don't you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*waits for resulting flames to clean*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think he has something against making mods jobs easy.. Not even joking

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@die: I'm going to go off of my rough translation of what you said..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Spanking children is stupid. They won't care. They will care about time outs because they won't like to see others having fun whilst they're not included."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Going off of that.. Do you remember being a child? (or possibly a few years ago in your case..) When someone puts their child in time out, they either sit there and accept their few minutes in the corner or rebel and run off as soon as they get a chance. I don't see time outs being effective because it doesn't show the child anything other than you're too lazy to find a form of punishment that is actually punishing. Now let's fast forward a few years. Say you go up to a girl and grab her chest. If she tells you to go stand in the corner, you're going to laugh. If she slaps you, you get the point and you get it quick. You know what.. I'm not going to bother going any further.. He's not going to listen/understand..

[Barihawk]

I think spanking in a disciplinary way is appropriate. These days, a time out is simply not effective. A good swift smack to the rump is something else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I only look for two things:

 

 

 

-Never spank out of anger. EVER. Put off discipline until you calm down. Immediately comfort the child after the discipline and let them know you still love them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Never strike a child anywhere but the rump. Make sure the child knows the discipline is for discipline's sake, and not just a random happenstance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guys, when I was a kid, my great grandmother and grandparents switched me. If you guys whine about spanking, I'd rather take a paddle (and oh, I've gotten it too!) over a switch. Those things HURT.

[deloriagod]

 

 

 

Guys, when I was a kid, my great grandmother and grandparents switched me. If you guys whine about spanking, I'd rather take a paddle (and oh, I've gotten it too!) over a switch. Those things HURT.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure what a switch is.. I know I got the belt when I was younger :ohnoes: