Is luring an acceptable practice?

[Zarfay]

I would like to once again bring up the point that asking if luring is ok is like asking if eating babies is ok.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ROFLMAO

[bubbels]

my opinion

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the wilderness lures, luring is acceptable IF you have wilderness warning. IF you are lured so the message dont show up, its bannable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the non-wilderness lures, such as aberrant and dagannoth lures, it is acceptable. Alltho, it should be bannable.

[Tip It]

I am one of these people who lure. Flame me if you want, but hear me out first.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luring is something we(or at least I) do to, of course, make a gain. But we don't always take them into the wild. What I do to lure is I go around saying drop party!, until someone my level comes around. I then go to the zammy wine, and then go out into the wild, pretending i'm dropping. when he comes out, dead . usually they don't drop anything good, but I believe that this is a form of scamming. No I don't think I should be banned for it, but I do believe that it should be against the rules and it's thier fault for going into the wild :shame:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well, that's my .02

[Zarfay]

I am one of these people who lure. Flame me if you want, but hear me out first.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luring is something we(or at least I) do to, of course, make a gain. But we don't always take them into the wild. What I do to lure is I go around saying drop party!, until someone my level comes around. I then go to the zammy wine, and then go out into the wild, pretending i'm dropping. when he comes out, dead . usually they don't drop anything good, but I believe that this is a form of scamming. No I don't think I should be banned for it, but I do believe that it should be against the rules and it's thier fault for going into the wild :shame:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well, that's my .02

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you believe its scamming... yet you don't believe it should be banable.... wtf what are you smoking?

[dutchdreams]

what type of luring are you guys talking about? like wilderness luring or monster luring? well i'll comment about both of them

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i lure, i'll admit it i don't care. i have done both wilderness and monster. i also skull trick people with my friends. my thought that if your stupid enough to take a full phat set into level 56 wild at mage bank, then you deserve to be dead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How is that luring ? That's a PK of an overconfident player who already is inside the wilderness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it's as simple as that, if your that dumb, then you deserve to die, same as irl, if your dumb enough to be a single guy with a $2000 tux on getting out at the ATM without looking, you deserve to be mugged.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. Nobody asks or deserves to have his/her integrity violated by worthless bums who are too lazy to make money themselves, period.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

for the monster luring, for those of you who don't know, at dk (dag kings) you take full guthans and such, and when your lured a person lures over surpreme and you get koed fast.. and drop your helm and staff thingy.. forgot what it's called. which is like 5m. doing that is a different story, cuz to do that the person is a semi close friend to you, and that is an [wagon] thing to do to a friend. but is yet again a good way to make money. a person can easily make 20m a day luring at dk. even more luring in wild.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a lousy thing to do to anyone, also to people you don't know. You deliberatly spoil the game fun of others for your own gain (yes, I know you don't care). Not only by taking those items from them, but more so by messing up their legit attempt at a good drop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as for the question if it's immoral or whatever.. rs is a computer game over the internet that should have absolutely no impact and anyones real life. however there a lot of messed up kids that play rs that think that rs is there life.. but those people are weird.. and need to find a life outside of rs.. so in fact luring is actually doing them a good thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thats what i think about the matter at elast..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If it's just a game or just pixel items, why spend all that trouble getting your hands on those items, spoiling others fun ? I'm sure if it were just a game to you, you would have no problem having fun in different ways. And if that is no fun, then there are other games you can play.

 

 

 

If it's just a game, it should make no difference to you being dirt poor or filthy rich. If it's just a game, it shouldn't matter to you what other players are wielding/wearing/banking. Jealous on other people's items/cash ? Want to have them as well, with least effort spent ? Want to have a rich bank ? Or heaven forbid, do you want to gain 'respect'/status amongst the community (seek help if you answered yes) ? Bit weird, don't you think, considering you claim it's just a game to you. Get your account banned, it would do 'you a good thing'.

[Tip It]

 

I am one of these people who lure. Flame me if you want, but hear me out first.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luring is something we(or at least I) do to, of course, make a gain. But we don't always take them into the wild. What I do to lure is I go around saying drop party!, until someone my level comes around. I then go to the zammy wine, and then go out into the wild, pretending i'm dropping. when he comes out, dead . usually they don't drop anything good, but I believe that this is a form of scamming. No I don't think I should be banned for it, but I do believe that it should be against the rules and it's thier fault for going into the wild :shame:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well, that's my .02

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you believe its scamming... yet you don't believe it should be banable.... [what the heck] what are you smoking?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe that it is hypocritical for me to say this, but you shouldn't get banned for something that isn't against the rules. I didn't type it out well, was in a rush.

[fenrir321]

While reading through this thread's 16 pages, I've noticed alot of reaccuring explanations for luring/not luring:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Luring is not acceptable: because it is immoral and breaks rule 2- no scamming, lying or decieving other players for one's own benifit.

 

 

 

~This explanation is logical because it states that something that is "against the rules" is unethical and is relevant to the argument~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. Luring is acceptable: because the "luree" is too stupid or inexperienced to know what is happening.

 

 

 

~This is totally irrelevant to the arguement becuase it is detouring the attention of the listener away from the point: ethecity of the action~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. Luring is acceptable: because it is the same as pking/bsing and those are legal.

 

 

 

~Pking is a sport, a dangerous one. It is an agreed match(agreed by entering the wilderness :ohnoes: between two players). Back stabbing is also lying and should also be reportable because the liar is decieving a player for his own gain, this also applies to fight pits #-o . Luring is is lying for your own gain and is, in essence, almost exactly like bsing. This is also illogical because pking and bsing aren't part of the arguement and the status on thos actions are not relevent to luring~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So really the only side giving credable information on whether or not luring is acceptable is the ones saying "Luring is unacceptable and should be against the ruels". Also the ones ,that are the ones defending luring, give repeated (and irrelevent) explanations get beat down by logical combacks. And when they know that they're beat they get mad :XD:.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did I make your brains hurt? \

 

 

 

BTW: I'm 13 not a lawyer :wall:

[fenrir321]

 

 

I am one of these people who lure. Flame me if you want, but hear me out first.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luring is something we(or at least I) do to, of course, make a gain. But we don't always take them into the wild. What I do to lure is I go around saying drop party!, until someone my level comes around. I then go to the zammy wine, and then go out into the wild, pretending i'm dropping. when he comes out, dead . usually they don't drop anything good, but I believe that this is a form of scamming. No I don't think I should be banned for it, but I do believe that it should be against the rules and it's thier fault for going into the wild :shame:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well, that's my .02

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you believe its scamming... yet you don't believe it should be banable.... [what the heck] what are you smoking?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe that it is hypocritical for me to say this, but you shouldn't get banned for something that isn't against the rules. I didn't type it out well, was in a rush.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well, here's MY 2 cents:

 

 

 

Saying that you shouldn't get banned for something against the ruels is fine. However, what if that something is something that is still wrong, just not against the rules? It's like saying this:

 

 

 

In country 1 it is legal to speed. Wow speeding isn't illegal but it's still wrong. Why? Because you're hurting/going to hurt other people by going over a safe speed. Just because it's not against the rules doesn't mean it's right. If you get a "concience pang" then it's probably wrong. But if you don't get a Concience pang but another person does then it's probably wrong.

[lightinblade]

lol i was out at green drags other day in my normal full rune and whip ... someone 10 lvls above me traded me and he had 500k on him and he wanted me to fight him for it .... i wasnt skulled so he wouldnt hit first.. so i told him i would fight him after i killed 2 more drags to fill up inventory ... but the time i killed those drags i had 3 mates out there we owned him and took his rune and whip.... justice served

[Buckeyemange]

 

 

 

 

 

if your going to talk bad about luring then get a clue about it first. most people have other accounts because there main's combat level is to high. *hint the higher the persons combat the harder to get a lure is hint*

 

 

 

and actually luring is dead after 95+ combat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never said "High Level Main" - I said Main. As in someone having multiple accounts that they use to lure, and except for thier main character - which they dont want to have repercussions sought against.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So some use alternate accounts becuase they 'cant' lure with thier 95+ main. I dont know what is more sad, that they, out of frustration at failing to lure people with thier 95+ character - they started a lower level.. or that it took them to lvl 95+ to figure it out. It is still wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What ever the case, it is false pretenses. Wildy is not there so that there is no honor, or no rules. It is there so players can play against one another in the field of combat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People that choose the honorless way, meaning that they feel justified at cheating, will always be that way. They will start out justifing why they cheat at a game. Then why they cheat in thier tests, Then why they cheat on thier taxes, or steal things from thier company. Those people are the ones you see on Jerry Springer. I however aspire to better than people that find it so hard to have honor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

who hasnt cheated on a test before. i know i have. i know almost every single one of my teachers has. and i also know my parents has.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

most people that are 95+ know what a lure is and it is very hard for the talker to get them to the spot. making it almost useless for a 95+ account in luring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and let me see these supposedly list of "rules" in the wild. sure you have to follow jagex's standards rules but is there a list that players made up that you absolutely have to stand by? and if so how many people follow it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hell ya its acceptable not your faults you idiots bring in like millions of gp and all that good stuff and you run straight into the wilderness, before you go in theres a warning, and luring is not actually called item scamming. Its called making stupid people run into run into wilderness and dying with millions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

luring equals cash w000t

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

xP i remember back on my main some idiot was alching i traded him and ran inside wilde he traded me and i killed him for 57m and a purple roflmfao it was hella funny

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you're going with the "Taking candy from a baby" approach? Taking advantage of the stupid to further yourself? I mean, how pathetic do you have to be to need to lure people?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean, come on? You could (Parish the thought) Pk with SOME dignity, but no, you'd rather scam. I mean, you could mine coal, or cut yews, anything that doesn't lead to dirty money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sure, you can hide behind the fact that it's not really against the rules, and sure, you can hide behind the fact that they were stupid enough to fall for it, but that's a poor excuse...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rob from the rich and stupid, give to yourself. A twisted robbin hood. Well, at least you lured the hat and boots to call yourself robbin hod...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

back onto topic. so your calling it pking then? then why is it against the rules?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

how pathetic do people have to be to fall for a lure also. :wall:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"taking candy from a baby" is not an appropriate term here you try to get a lure it takes skill taking candy from a baby is just mean.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

King peter: as your friend Buckeyemange said its just pking dishonorably not scamming items

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maddra: how is luring "cheating" autoing is cheating. luring is a more profitable way of pking

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't say that it was PKing, I ment to say that, instead of pulling people to the wilderness and then killing them, you could use the Wilderness how it should be, with, as I said, a little honor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second, "Taking candy from a baby" is the perfect term for this. All lurers do is trick people into the wilderness, and take their candy, if candy was a P-hat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Third, you call luring SKILL! Right, so tricking people into the wilderness takes SO much skill...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fourth, could you please use a little grammer? I mean, at least use capital letters to start a sentence, or throw in a comma here and there.

[1seck0]

As a Pure, Luring is the most convienent way to make money quickly with less hassle(I.E WCing all day for like 500 logs in the end or Fishing all day for about 200k). Some lures make large amounts of gold in one day that may take weeks for other players. In the issue of it being moral, of course it is not. It is considered low and dishonorable. However, it is still allowed and if there is no force (by JaGex) to stop, it then by all means continue with it. Honestly for those complaining about "hurting" a person's feelings behind the pixel characters seriously needs to consider taking a break from Runescape and get out and have a life. They are just pixels!!

 

 

 

I also believe it is not bullying because people ought to know better and not trade in the Wilderness. As a matter of fact,when you trade in Wilderness it has a message that says" Trading in the Wilderness is Dangerous."Therefore they cannot say they did not know or that there is no warning about trading in the Wild. Its the scamee's fault for even setting foot on dangerous ground with their rares on them. Thats beyond stupid and its beyond me why they do this. I rest my case by saying luring is legal and you must be mentally deficiant to not see it coming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Btw Hero Btw

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

exactly rofl all da way baby!! people who actually do get hurt from rs needs to like go get a girlfriend or something roflmfao or go spend time with their friends more rofl what idiots.... i just like luring because its funny as hell.. seeing people diee with their good stuff on like its just funny. yes it is.

[1seck0]

 

i hate lurers! i was lured once! and they took 300k and my ring of wealth! you cant say that it takes a bit of so called brain power not to get caught alot of people have never heard of luring and some are quite naive the only people who say i takes a bit of brain power are lurers themselves and if i ever meet you in person ill punch you so hard ill break your nose! (mind you people have tried luring me several times since and im not letting it happen again)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

come punch me in the nose and see what happens. I haven't lured anyone, but maybe i should to teach stupid people lessons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

roflmfao exactly.. you touch me and i would like grab you flip you and dip you straight on your head..

[1seck0]

I would like to once again bring up the point that asking if luring is ok is like asking if eating babies is ok.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But honetly, what's worse then the luring is the stuck up attitude that the lurer has about it. For example, I know a guy who as lured. For the next 5 minutes, from the lurer, he got a message like "Zomg we Freakin' PWND you!" for the next 5 minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I don't get it why lurers are so desprate for money that they lure. I mean, using only 30k worth of feathers, I made upwards of 600k.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

roflmfao not desperate... umm funny? yep dats da word

[1seck0]

 

 

 

 

Mod Burgess

 

 

 

Jagex Mod

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

22-Feb-2007 19:34:39

 

 

 

Last edited on 22-Feb-2007 19:35:06 by Mod Burgess

 

 

 

Luring in to the Wilderness

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We'd like to explain that Luring in to the Wilderness is not against the rules of the game. This is because we feel that the dangers of the Wilderness are well signposted. The warning screen before entering the Wilderness clearly explains that any player that enters the Wilderness is in danger of being killed and losing items.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you are trading near or in the Wilderness then it is important that you consider the documented dangers. You are at risk of being lured and player killed, which could lead to you losing any items that you are carrying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you are trading then we recommend that you avoid areas like the Wilderness, Edgeville and north Varrock. If you are uncomfortable with the arrangements of a trade then try and change them or cancel the offer. If you choose to trade in one of these areas then you do so at your own risk. It should be noted that there is never a reason for a trade to take place specifically in the Wilderness, and it is advised to refuse any such offers if they are not willing to trade outside of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Despite the fact that Luring is not against the rules, it is not in the spirit of the game. We ask any player interested in Luring to take this in to consideration.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mod Burgess

 

 

 

Jagex Mod

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

22-Feb-2007 19:37:01

 

 

 

Last edited on 22-Feb-2007 19:37:30 by Mod Burgess

 

 

 

Discussion of Luring on the Forums

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please bear in mind that we do not allow discussion of Luring on the Forums. This includes threads made by players looking for a Luring partner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We do not consider Luring to be in the spirit of the game. In our experience, any threads discussing Luring lead to derogatory or inflammatory comments about other players or groups of players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ba da ba ba ba im loving it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and another thing, people thinking that i'll get lured one day and lose all my stuff rofl dats bull[beep] i can't get lured cause im lurer dats what i do for money and to have fun, because its just funny as hell. When I'm bored coming home from the mall or something with some friends go online ask some of my pure friends "ayy lets go lure some noobs lol" dey like okay and dam at least 10m a trip at leastt.. if we do edge lures or other than that if we do forums lures and some idiot comes with their 200m and phats its jackpot rofl.

[Buckeyemange]

Sure, we all get our kicks by taking money from the stupid. You demented person...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What it is is a moral code. You can say "It's fun, it's not against the rules, they shouldn't be out there," and on and on and on, but the fact is that you are a terrible person. Period.

[Gin_and_Tonic]

As far as im concerned, if you're stupid or greedy enough to fall for a lure, you deserve it...

[silkyshyster]

why are people bringing morality into this topic? this is a game in which you can steal from NPCs at will, and yet it's illegal to lure people? the only difference is that a 10-year-old is whimpering over his keyboard after he realizes what a moron he is. it's a game, no one is hurt, and if you can't stand a game in which people try to take advantage of each other, play scrabble.

[sir_me47]

 

 

 

 

 

 

if your going to talk bad about luring then get a clue about it first. most people have other accounts because there main's combat level is to high. *hint the higher the persons combat the harder to get a lure is hint*

 

 

 

and actually luring is dead after 95+ combat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never said "High Level Main" - I said Main. As in someone having multiple accounts that they use to lure, and except for thier main character - which they dont want to have repercussions sought against.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So some use alternate accounts becuase they 'cant' lure with thier 95+ main. I dont know what is more sad, that they, out of frustration at failing to lure people with thier 95+ character - they started a lower level.. or that it took them to lvl 95+ to figure it out. It is still wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What ever the case, it is false pretenses. Wildy is not there so that there is no honor, or no rules. It is there so players can play against one another in the field of combat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People that choose the honorless way, meaning that they feel justified at cheating, will always be that way. They will start out justifing why they cheat at a game. Then why they cheat in thier tests, Then why they cheat on thier taxes, or steal things from thier company. Those people are the ones you see on Jerry Springer. I however aspire to better than people that find it so hard to have honor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

who hasnt cheated on a test before. i know i have. i know almost every single one of my teachers has. and i also know my parents has.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

most people that are 95+ know what a lure is and it is very hard for the talker to get them to the spot. making it almost useless for a 95+ account in luring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and let me see these supposedly list of "rules" in the wild. sure you have to follow jagex's standards rules but is there a list that players made up that you absolutely have to stand by? and if so how many people follow it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hell ya its acceptable not your faults you idiots bring in like millions of gp and all that good stuff and you run straight into the wilderness, before you go in theres a warning, and luring is not actually called item scamming. Its called making stupid people run into run into wilderness and dying with millions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

luring equals cash w000t

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

xP i remember back on my main some idiot was alching i traded him and ran inside wilde he traded me and i killed him for 57m and a purple roflmfao it was hella funny

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you're going with the "Taking candy from a baby" approach? Taking advantage of the stupid to further yourself? I mean, how pathetic do you have to be to need to lure people?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean, come on? You could (Parish the thought) Pk with SOME dignity, but no, you'd rather scam. I mean, you could mine coal, or cut yews, anything that doesn't lead to dirty money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sure, you can hide behind the fact that it's not really against the rules, and sure, you can hide behind the fact that they were stupid enough to fall for it, but that's a poor excuse...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rob from the rich and stupid, give to yourself. A twisted robbin hood. Well, at least you lured the hat and boots to call yourself robbin hod...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

back onto topic. so your calling it pking then? then why is it against the rules?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

how pathetic do people have to be to fall for a lure also. :wall:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"taking candy from a baby" is not an appropriate term here you try to get a lure it takes skill taking candy from a baby is just mean.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

King peter: as your friend Buckeyemange said its just pking dishonorably not scamming items

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maddra: how is luring "cheating" autoing is cheating. luring is a more profitable way of pking

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't say that it was PKing, I ment to say that, instead of pulling people to the wilderness and then killing them, you could use the Wilderness how it should be, with, as I said, a little honor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second, "Taking candy from a baby" is the perfect term for this. All lurers do is trick people into the wilderness, and take their candy, if candy was a P-hat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Third, you call luring SKILL! Right, so tricking people into the wilderness takes SO much skill...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fourth, could you please use a little grammer? I mean, at least use capital letters to start a sentence, or throw in a comma here and there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

were not in school so get a life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"taking candy from a baby" all that takes is for you to get there parents to look the other way. you take there candy and run, that is just mean. luring does take talent first you have to talk the person to going near the wild and that can be a challenge so it does take skill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i believe these were your exact words

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"I mean, come on? You could (Parish the thought) Pk with SOME dignity, but no, you'd rather scam. I mean, you could mine coal, or cut yews, anything that doesn't lead to dirty money."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you said pk with SOME dignity. second of all i still dont see how you see luring is a "scam" sure the drop party, and house lure is a scam and those are bannable. so jagex does know when to ban for scamming

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Luring is not acceptable: because it is immoral and breaks rule 2- no scamming, lying or decieving other players for one's own benifit.

 

 

 

~This explanation is logical because it states that something that is "against the rules" is unethical and is relevant to the argument~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

isnt that what most pures and stakers do? take a tank ranger at duel for example. they have most of the pure clothes on i.e the standard black d hide chaps magic bow robin set and soft leather body. but when there in the duel they bring out full torags with a fully charged crystal bow. that is very deceiving and you can loose a lot of money that way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and pures they lie to there oponent to get them to fight them. that is " lying or decieving other players for one's own benifit."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Pking is a sport, a dangerous one. It is an agreed match(agreed by entering the wilderness :ohnoes: between two players). Back stabbing is also lying and should also be reportable because the liar is decieving a player for his own gain, this also applies to fight pits #-o . Luring is is lying for your own gain and is, in essence, almost exactly like bsing. This is also illogical because pking and bsing aren't part of the arguement and the status on thos actions are not relevent to luring~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So really the only side giving credable information on whether or not luring is acceptable is the ones saying "Luring is unacceptable and should be against the ruels". Also the ones ,that are the ones defending luring, give repeated (and irrelevent) explanations get beat down by logical combacks. And when they know that they're beat they get mad :XD:.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" This is also illogical because pking and bsing aren't part of the arguement and the status on thos actions are not relevent to luring~"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if those are irrelevant to this topic than how is "taking candy from a baby" or anything else involving real life relevant to this topic?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pking is relevant to this topic also, because luring= pking but it has a very much higher reward. if you can get someone into the wild then they can get attacked and they know what happens in the wild so its there fault.

[1seck0]

Sure, we all get our kicks by taking money from the stupid. You demented person...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What it is is a moral code. You can say "It's fun, it's not against the rules, they shouldn't be out there," and on and on and on, but the fact is that you are a terrible person. Period.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

okay im terrible? and your point is?

[1seck0]

why are people bringing morality into this topic? this is a game in which you can steal from NPCs at will, and yet it's illegal to lure people? the only difference is that a 10-year-old is whimpering over his keyboard after he realizes what a moron he is. it's a game, no one is hurt, and if you can't stand a game in which people try to take advantage of each other, play scrabble.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

exactly

[Vladimir_Lenin54]

why are people bringing morality into this topic? this is a game in which you can steal from NPCs at will, and yet it's illegal to lure people? the only difference is that a 10-year-old is whimpering over his keyboard after he realizes what a moron he is. it's a game, no one is hurt, and if you can't stand a game in which people try to take advantage of each other, play scrabble.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yup. they can dish it out, but they can;t take it. so it's like lurers are enforcing the golden rule for NPC's

[RuDuDe2202]

IMO, i tihnk luring ISNT scamming. Sure its deceiving (depending on how they do it) but whos stupid enough to fall for it?? New players might fall for it but what could they lose?? First of all, they probably dont have any good stuff anyways. Second, it MIGHT be good for them to experience it atleast once. Either way, no ones going to fall for it unless they are truely a newb/n00b. Would you say teaming, then killing a person unfair? I dont know (or do i care) but its just a game. When you get scammed/hacked, what did you do? Did you give up? I didnt(until i got bored with the game and came back). these kind of things make you stronger whether you made it ou alive or not, gained or lost something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You have to be creative. Luring never works. Ive seen people drop stuff to lure noobs in there. Common sense people, common sense.....

[unkn0wnwarrior]

IMO, i tihnk luring ISNT scamming. Sure its deceiving

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To scam is to deprive of by deceit.

[adam_ross0]

Is luring an acceptable practice..good question. Some say yes..because it is the Wilderness. Some say no, because it breaches the rules. I'll go with the latter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rule 2 - Item Scamming

 

 

 

Effective date: 16th January 2007

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You must not scam or deceive other players. Lying to other players for your own personal gain is not in the spirit of the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as I know, Deception means to trick someone into a deal/proposition with false information. According to Rule #2, Deception is an illegal practice in RuneScape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luring is pretty much lying to someone to get them into the wildernesswith their valuables.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So..since we have defined Luring, it seems it is a form of DECEPTION..is it not? So, is Jagex breaching their own rules? Does this mean that they are being hypocritical by saying we need to follow the rules? I say yes. LURING, as I see it, is a highly dishonorable and idiotic practice. It disappoints me that Jagex showed their TRUE intelligence by allowing this to go on.

[Jake_Corsair]

Is luring an acceptable practice..good question. Some say yes..because it is the Wilderness. Some say no, because it breaches the rules. I'll go with the latter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rule 2 - Item Scamming

 

 

 

Effective date: 16th January 2007

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You must not scam or deceive other players. Lying to other players for your own personal gain is not in the spirit of the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as I know, Deception means to trick someone into a deal/proposition with false information. According to Rule #2, Deception is an illegal practice in RuneScape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luring is pretty much lying to someone to get them into the wildernesswith their valuables.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So..since we have defined Luring, it seems it is a form of DECEPTION..is it not? So, is Jagex breaching their own rules? Does this mean that they are being hypocritical by saying we need to follow the rules? I say yes. LURING, as I see it, is a highly dishonorable and idiotic practice. It disappoints me that Jagex showed their TRUE intelligence by allowing this to go on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think they "breach their rules" out of neccessity. Can you imagine if it was a reportable offence? How would you decide from a snapshot of the chat what really happened? Unless they said "hey, come to the wild with all your expensive stuff....no I promise I'm not going to let you get killed."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reports customer service people would have a headache trying to sort out all those reports.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides, it's not like if they said it was illegal, those people would stop. They prey on those that are "weaker" than them, why would a rule against it matter?