US Planning Iran Invasion?

[warri0r45]

. If they dont like bush, we dont care. If you dont like america then ge out! Yer enemy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they don't like bush, then they have every right to stay and vote him out. Just as much right as those who voted him in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway on the topic of a possible Iran invasion, I couldn't see it happening somehow. I think it's all just media hype.

[pault]

. I think it's all just media hype.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For what purpose?

[Barihawk]

I just bought an Iranian flag...Don't hurt me... :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Supporting Iran is one thing, the Ayatollah is another. He is singlehandedly the most dangerous man in the world. All he has to do is speak and millions of extremist Islamics will do whatever he asks.

[warri0r45]

 

. I think it's all just media hype.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For what purpose?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To keep the public afraid and docile. :P

[pault]

 

I just bought an Iranian flag...Don't hurt me... :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Supporting Iran is one thing, the Ayatollah is another. He is singlehandedly the most dangerous man in the world. All he has to do is speak and millions of extremist Islamics will do whatever he asks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The gigantic US nuclear and chemical weapon arsenals (which are enough to destroy and infect the entire planet earth many hundreds of times over) and it's 500 billion dollar+ defense budget absolutely pale in comparisons of dangerousness to the rusty AK-47s and boxcutters of the muslim extremists. In all seriousness, I don't think Iran is a huge threat to the world. If it was, my spider sense would tingle. No tingle, no threat.

[warri0r45]

 

 

I just bought an Iranian flag...Don't hurt me... :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Supporting Iran is one thing, the Ayatollah is another. He is singlehandedly the most dangerous man in the world. All he has to do is speak and millions of extremist Islamics will do whatever he asks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The gigantic US nuclear and chemical weapon arsenals (which are enough to destroy and infect the entire planet earth many hundreds of times over) and it's 500 billion dollar+ defense budget absolutely pale in comparisons of dangerousness to the rusty AK-47s and boxcutters of the muslim extremists. In all seriousness, I don't think Iran is a huge threat to the world. If it was, my spider sense would tingle. No tingle, no threat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think Iran has something like the 8th largest army in the world. No threat... :-k I say a little threat, at least. With nuclear weapons though... :ohnoes:

[Tigra00]

Iran is currently not a threat. But, due to the reason Barihawk said (for example), it will be in the future. That's what we want to stop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A country who supports Islamic extremists getting nuclear technology is freakin' scary. They claim it is peaceful, yet they fund terrorist groups directly. We just can't trust them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The USA's nukes and stuff have all been effectively "put away", from what I understand, and are being destroyed. I don't doubt that we have a few out just incase, but we don't have thousands out and ready to use like we used to. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Warrior45, I don't fear Iran's army, I fear the "army" they fund behind closed doors, if anything. No country's army, even in their "wrong" mind, let alone in their "right" mind, would attack the USA. Can you imagine what would happen if a country attacked us? They wouldn't even have to send out the army...Every single damn household has a gun. :lol: Hell, I don't even SHOOT guns, I never have once, and even we have a few in the house. A .12 gauge that was my grandpa's, a .22 pistol my dad won, etc. :P Any army attacking us would be obliterated by our own damn people, and that'd be hilariously bad for them!

[warri0r45]

Iran is currently not a threat. But, due to the reason Barihawk said (for example), it will be in the future. That's what we want to stop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A country who supports Islamic extremists getting nuclear technology is freakin' scary. They claim it is peaceful, yet they fund terrorist groups directly. We just can't trust them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The USA's nukes and stuff have all been effectively "put away", from what I understand, and are being destroyed. I don't doubt that we have a few out just incase, but we don't have thousands out and ready to use like we used to. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Warrior45, I don't fear Iran's army, I fear the "army" they fund behind closed doors, if anything. No country's army, even in their "wrong" mind, let alone in their "right" mind, would attack the USA. Can you imagine what would happen if a country attacked us? They wouldn't even have to send out the army...Every single damn household has a gun. :lol: Hell, I don't even SHOOT guns, I never have once, and even we have a few in the house. A .12 gauge that was my grandpa's, a .22 pistol my dad won, etc. :P Any army attacking us would be obliterated by our own damn people, and that'd be hilariously bad for them!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course, you'd have to be psychotic to invade the US, I was more suggesting the resistance thier army would put up to a US invasion.

[Tigra00]

 

Iran is currently not a threat. But, due to the reason Barihawk said (for example), it will be in the future. That's what we want to stop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A country who supports Islamic extremists getting nuclear technology is freakin' scary. They claim it is peaceful, yet they fund terrorist groups directly. We just can't trust them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The USA's nukes and stuff have all been effectively "put away", from what I understand, and are being destroyed. I don't doubt that we have a few out just incase, but we don't have thousands out and ready to use like we used to. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Warrior45, I don't fear Iran's army, I fear the "army" they fund behind closed doors, if anything. No country's army, even in their "wrong" mind, let alone in their "right" mind, would attack the USA. Can you imagine what would happen if a country attacked us? They wouldn't even have to send out the army...Every single damn household has a gun. :lol: Hell, I don't even SHOOT guns, I never have once, and even we have a few in the house. A .12 gauge that was my grandpa's, a .22 pistol my dad won, etc. :P Any army attacking us would be obliterated by our own damn people, and that'd be hilariously bad for them!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course, you'd have to be psychotic to invade the US, I was more suggesting the resistance thier army would put up to a US invasion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, yea. Didn't even think of that...Duhhhhh...This is my brain on 2:32 AM, I guess. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dare I say Iran's army would probably be worse than Iraq...Probably more organized, better equiped, etc. I'm almost positive that Iran has fighter jets...I guess that can be looked at as a good thing - We get dog fights to hear about! :P

[Barihawk]

 

 

I just bought an Iranian flag...Don't hurt me... :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Supporting Iran is one thing, the Ayatollah is another. He is singlehandedly the most dangerous man in the world. All he has to do is speak and millions of extremist Islamics will do whatever he asks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The gigantic US nuclear and chemical weapon arsenals (which are enough to destroy and infect the entire planet earth many hundreds of times over) and it's 500 billion dollar+ defense budget absolutely pale in comparisons of dangerousness to the rusty AK-47s and boxcutters of the muslim extremists. In all seriousness, I don't think Iran is a huge threat to the world. If it was, my spider sense would tingle. No tingle, no threat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the thing. America is disarming. We don't want to use nukes or chemical weapons EVER.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The extremists may have rusty AK's, but all it takes is a little support from he Ayatollah and now they have brand new AK-74's and even FN Galil's. They don't follow any code, they don't follow the rules of war. They will spread out and crush the Middle East.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Israel has nukes and is far more likely to use them. Bam. World War 3 started in our nice Middle East.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only way for us to win is to sit it out and get Iran to be the aggressor. At least then we can get NATO if not some UN member nations to help out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trust me. They may be "hicks" in your eyes, but men and women with the conviction that their God demands the killing of all infidels led by the most powerful man on Earth? That scares me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dare I say Iran's army would probably be worse than Iraq...Probably more organized, better equiped, etc. I'm almost positive that Iran has fighter jets...I guess that can be looked at as a good thing - We get dog fights to hear about!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are one of the most well equipped militaries on Earth. A side effect of being on of the richest nations. As Conservative as I am, I like to keep a period of 10-20 years after a war before I like to hear about the cool dogfights. Too surreal.

[malo2]

 

Seeing as USA today is close to 100% liberal.. I wouldn't take it seriously

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm fascinated to see how you explain the 51% that voted for Bush.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But no, I don't think the US will invade Iran. It would never get Congressional approval, and the US simply doesn't have the troops.

yeah, well probably end up waiting untill iran attacks us.

[None2None]

Iran is too much of a threat, you may all call me crazy for saying that, but the same goes for North Korea, why didn't we attack them? because we didn't have a nuclear war...instead of attacking them, we stopped the shipment of iPods and high-class cars (PMG! :shock: )...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The same would go for Iran, if we go to war with Iran, and they develope a nuclear bomb in the middle of the war and decide to test it on us (like we did with Japan) we'd be screwed over...They already have grasped the general concept, I dont see how we'd take the risk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In addition to congress being 51% liberal (49% democrats, 2% independent) and 49% concervative (all republicans)...The US has become even more liberal than that because of Bush's recent escalation of troops, though the State of the Union made his cause more supportable (yet I personally still disagree with it), I dont think many watched it, keeping their mind-set even more liberal than before...and the educated people that did watch it probably kept their opinions as they were before and came up with rebuttals...lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But considering all of that, and the fact that it would look even worse if Bush pulled a HUGE move like that during the end of his presidency, putting all of the pressure on the next president, well this would probably make him (and his party) look worse...Therefore I'm not sure many of even the republican congress would approve of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Short - I dont think it would be passed even if proposed for many of the reasons posted above.

[Ambassadar]

I won't do any talking... I'll just let Iran's President Ahmadinejad make my points for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Notice which country is shattered first behind him...

 

 

 

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53809

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Iranian President Mahmoud AhmadinejadÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ assured that the United States and the Zionist regime of Israel will soon come to the end of their lives," the Iranian president was quoted as saying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3356154,00.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Basically we are not looking for ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ã

[pault]

Ahmadinejad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, it's too bad he has no power and he is just a puppet for the clerics who actually run the country, because that kind of makes your post pointless.

[monkeypie10]

Global Warming

 

 

 

War in Iraq

 

 

 

Iran and Nuclear bombs...

 

 

 

Israel and palenstine...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brothers, the end is near, turn your faces to God, it's almost time.

[Ambassadar]

Well, it's too bad he has no power and he is just a puppet for the clerics who actually run the country, because that kind of makes your post pointless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Either way my post is applicable. The reason is if he is merely a puppet of the clerics and they have all the power then that means he is saying what the person in power wants him to say. In effect he becomes their spokesperson to deliver their message to the world. Whether it is his message or their message that message is scary. Either way it also comes from whoever is in control. Now explain to me how that is pointless....

[Tigra00]

Global Warming

 

 

 

War in Iraq

 

 

 

Iran and Nuclear bombs...

 

 

 

Israel and palenstine...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brothers, the end is near, turn your faces to God, it's almost time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Yawn*. It's been "almost time" for the last 6,000 years. When in fact, the Bible says "I promise you, all this will come to pass before the end of this generation." on the subject of the end of the world. That was written...How many generations ago? I ain't too worried.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The guy is obviously dilusional. He actually things America would fall and crumble before Israel? America is untouchable to him.

[dangeresque]

I doubt it...Iran has nukes, i don't think it will end well if we attack them...anyways bush won't do it because he knows america will groan and moan about it if he does

[Ambassadar]

"I promise you, all this will come to pass before the end of this generation."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of that stuff was referring to the downfall of Israel. Jerusalem got utterly creamed in AD 69 by the Romans. People were resorting to cannabilism eating their dead children. Others were committing suicide jumping off their rooftops. The Roman auxiliaries were gutting people trying to leave the city because there was a rumor going around that refugees had eaten their gold to hide it. It was bad... Read some Josephus if you are interested. It is called "The Accounts of the Siege."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As to your main point that people have been saying the end of the world is near for thousands of years I agree. People are too quick to only focus on their present generation. We actually have it incredibly good right now. Remember that in the Bible it says God will come back as a thief in the night. In other words when no one expects it. All of a sudden he is there. To me that just doesn't sound like right now at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Woot! Tigra and I finally agreed on something. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The guy is obviously dilusional. He actually things America would fall and crumble before Israel? America is untouchable to him.

 

 

 

How hard would it be to sneak a suitcase nuke across the Mexican or Canadian border into the US?

[Will H]

If they decided to invade Iran, then 'pop', us Brits will be out of there in an instant. We feel that we were tricked into invading Iraq by Bush, and if he feels that he is stable enough to invade Iran as well, he obviously doesn't need us. Why should we stay then?

[SLOWSTORM]

Well, whether we should, or shouldn't, someone is going to have to deal with him eventually. He and Kim Jong Im have been spitting in the face of the world for quite some time now. You can only spit in the face of a giant for so long before it rolls over, and squashes you like a bug. I say better now than when Hillary is President. (If she makes the Democratic nomination, she will be.)

[terley]

War is not the answer, things have a way of fixing themselves whatever the problem may be..

[Ambassadar]

War is not the answer, things have a way of fixing themselves whatever the problem may be..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What was the answer to Hitler and the holocaust?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you have a better way it could have been solved?

[terley]

Hitler started the war, we ended it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't believe starting a war is the answer to peace.

[Ambassadar]

Gotcha... that makes more sense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another question... Do you think World War II would have been as bad if the allies had attacked Hitler when he started illegally annexing territory and started breaking the WWI peace treaty by expanding his military? This was before he had turned the German military into a powerful juggernaut so Germany couldn't have put up as tough a resistance as they did several years later.