Latinoking Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 US President George W. Bush said in an interview Tuesday he was forced to sacrifice free market principles to save the economy from "collapse." "I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system," Bush told CNN television, saying he had made the decision "to make sure the economy doesn't collapse." Bush's comments reflect an extraordinary departure from his longtime advocacy for an unfettered free market, as his administration has orchestrated unprecedented government intervention in the face of a dire financial crisis. "I am sorry we're having to do it," Bush said. But Bush said government action was necessary to ease the effects of the crisis, offering perhaps his most dire assessment yet of the country's economy. "I feel a sense of obligation to my successor to make sure there is not a, you know, a huge economic crisis. Look, we're in a crisis now. I mean, this is -- we're in a huge recession, but I don't want to make it even worse." At a G20 summit last month in Washington, Bush resisted some proposals for global financial regulation and argued free market principles still held true despite the global economic downturn. And administration officials have also referred to the primacy of the free market when discussing a possible government bailout for the troubled US auto industry. In the interview, Bush said that a "disorganized bankruptcy" of the carmakers could create "enormous" economic difficulties. But the US president has yet to announce how his administration will proceed amid calls from Detroit automakers and Democrats for a bailout drawing on funds set aside for financial firms. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081216215816.8g97981o&show_article=1 He's going to sacrifice free-market principles to save a free-market economy? I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoi_Tu Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 He's going to sacrifice free-market principles to save a free-market economy? He's done it before(think tax refunds). This isn't big news. Either way, he's doing what any competent economist would do, no matter the political orientation. Fiscal Policy! Although Congress is still grumbling about it and we might already be out of the recession anyways (doubtful, but possible). Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_am_Geed Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 maybe hes traumitized after being harassed by a size 11 shoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootlaboot Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 maybe hes traumitized after being harassed by a size 11 shoe Roflmao. On Topic: If it saves the economy I'm all for it. If you choose your beliefs/lifestyle simply based on what your parents want, then you are a weak minded individual and are not even worthy of calling yourself a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyw3000 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I dont understand the grammar in the title, but such things are usualy my fault so can someone explain what it means? Or else do i not fail and the OP got it wrong? Anywaysss....a 100% free market fails. *goes into details about with no regulations dermerit good harming the society and environment would be produced etc.etc. no parks, NHS (wiki it), schools...* If leading economists think it'll work, let's do it. I'm all up for saving the economy. :thumbup: Let's hope it does work tho lol. BTW, what will he do? the article doesnt say (or else it does and i fail).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 maybe hes traumitized after being harassed by a size 11 shoe Thought it was a size 10? IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureprayer Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 maybe hes traumitized after being harassed by a size 11 shoe Thought it was a size 10? It was size 10 Pureprayer, you're awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 maybe hes traumitized after being harassed by a size 11 shoe Thought it was a size 10? It was size 10 IT WAS A SIZE 10 IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle229 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 maybe hes traumitized after being harassed by a size 11 shoe Thought it was a size 10? It was size 10 IT WAS A SIZE 10 Hey, from his perspective it would have looked bigger by the time it got to him. Get back here so I can rub your butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoi_Tu Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 BTW, what will he do? the article doesnt say (or else it does and i fail).... Traditionally, the government can spend money on infrastructure to pull the economy out of a recession. Usually, things like roads, bridges, schools, etc. However, Congress isn't exactly willing to quickly pass such spending because many times it can come too late. For example, the recession started in December 2007 and it may already be over (it's hard to tell). If it is already over, approval of infrastructure spending would just be fueling an expansion instead of pulling us out of a recession, which would make it money poorly spent. It's most likely not over though, just giving a speculative example. Edit: Good recent NYT article on the issue: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/17/business/economy/17leonhardt.html?em Starting next year, the Obama administration is planning to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on public works and other programs. The article also addresses the recent issue of deflation, which could cause some extra problems if it gets significantly worse. Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Amazingly enough, I remember a $700 billion package only a couple months ago was meant to save the world economy. I wonder why it didn't work? What makes you think this will "save the economy"? It's not broken - it enters a recession every now and then, and recovers on its own. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 If it works, and it works in a such a way that helps the average American, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowager286 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 It is a logical thing to do. Only a fool or an ideologue would do otherwise. Props to Bush :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Meh, there's never been totally free-market anywhere. The government still manages some production, albeit very very little. Oh well. Sounds good. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoi_Tu Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Amazingly enough, I remember a $700 billion package only a couple months ago was meant to save the world economy. I wonder why it didn't work? What makes you think this will "save the economy"? It's not broken - it enters a recession every now and then, and recovers on its own. We've only spent half that package so far and it has helped. What we face now is a severe decline in business and consumer confidence. In simple terms, we need to increase demand and that is what Bush is proposing (fiscal policy). The economy could recover on its own, but you would possibly be bankrupt or on the street by the time it gets out of the recession. So, yeah, we could just leave it be, but that would be silly and leave you splitting wood for sandwiches. Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_am_Geed Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 maybe hes traumitized after being harassed by a size 11 shoe Thought it was a size 10? It was size 10 IT WAS A SIZE 10 Hey, from his perspective it would have looked bigger by the time it got to him. I didnt realize what size it was lol, i just took what size my brother's shoe was :shock: that guy's feet are as big as mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 What's wrong with a bit of government intervention? Oh wait, I know. That means the communists will win. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoi_Tu Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 What's wrong with a bit of government intervention? Oh wait, I know. That means the communists will win. Don't you know? They already won; Obama got elected. Soon we'll all become evil and write literature. Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Noes! Not the pinko liberal heathens! Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megakiller32 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 What's wrong with a bit of government intervention? Oh wait, I know. That means the communists will win. Don't you know? They already won; Obama got elected. Soon we'll all become evil and write literature. Satire doesn't translate well over the internet, I don't know if that was satirical or not :| And i'm going to have to sum up all the courage I have here, to ask, whats free market and non free market principles? Is it like War Communism during the Russian Revolution? Quit Runescape 30th May 2006.Thanks to Hawkxs for my signature :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Amazingly enough, I remember a $700 billion package only a couple months ago was meant to save the world economy. I wonder why it didn't work? What makes you think this will "save the economy"? It's not broken - it enters a recession every now and then, and recovers on its own. This isn't a typical trade-cycle recession. It's the most significant financial event since 1929. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 And i'm going to have to sum up all the courage I have here, to ask, whats free market and non free market principles? Is it like War Communism during the Russian Revolution? Free market = extreme capitalism, for the most part. Non free = extreme socialism to communism, for the most part. Middle ground is best. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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