My New Computer - Anyone wanna give some hints?

Well I recently bought all of this:

[hide=Keyboard]http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3498&cl=ca,en[/hide]

[hide=Mouse]http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/163&cl=ca,en[/hide]

[hide=Monitor]http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0C7EA3162B2F85612BBB7512FD2001764B5E2569078A83F1597B75745F3FC2746C04485DBA5687B24DCBFBB35D002F4B62EF3A23AB0748457C25D75393F928A39869CE847E68B5634AEA200E0627809D36016C95F43622CCCC1CBF11394C5D8794FDB9BD11345D9FFCF4AC516765D87908C81D23310&sku_id=0665000FS10086757&catid=25074[/hide]

[hide=Tower]http://www.futureshop.ca/popup/largeimagepopup.asp?logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0C7EA3162B2F284847AD36A6DE60A0AA74230E69BF8AA57B3E8138D571D6D9203F7210B333E8651DDC97DF50F7DC592CD2F53FE00BB682B1ABAB8B2D3D1380553E266BCE3B7816F20ACA3C0F51F4AEB76BCBE7339617C4CC697AAC13D635F11CB20D8918C411AF95C1BFD6519A30AD9CE91C294668C9CAAA3015AB6D388B23BA3D4E837D5727C166AD64AE16811C99ADD2C9415884C59193069C2A9CB1E332B83493BC4DF9253F3275BFCE16048E30152492F91ECD56D2C1FC25FA878339B3C8981C81D9445&file=/multimedia/products/large/10089682.jpg%20&title=HP+Intel+Core+2+Quad%2Dcore+Media+Center+TV+Computer+%26+Samsung+21%2E6+inch+Wide+LCD+Monitor&test%5Fcookie=1[/hide]

[hide=specs]http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1355/mycomputerso3.png[/hide]

OS is vista, its ultimate(or atleast I was told, I really don't know where to find the OS name, vista is sorta different from Xp).

Anyways, what I was wondering, sicne my knowledge of computers is basically software, though, anyone recommend anything logical? Idc about price really...but any upgrades I should get before I do some crazy things with this computer?

Rs, computer languages, videoing pk trips, and windows meida player(zybez radio) will almost always be open on average, so anything to help with that?

I'm open to anything. I just want to know what I should get before I do too much.

Thanks :-#

*for the above it was 2300 dollars Canadian

Well you Windows Experience rating seems to be a bit low for a computer with 3 GB of Ram and and quad core processor (not really a big deal though). The mouse and keyboard look great. However, I really don't see much that you could upgrade. I suppose you could buy another 1 GB of RAM but it doesn't seem you'll need it since you're not going to be doing a lot.

The video card isn't listed on your specs; so it's the only thing I could think of upgrade wise. No use buying a nice system if it has a average video card; and you can't enjoy your Q-Core as much playing hi-detail games and such.

Overall a nice system.

I know it has a video card, I made sure of that, make and version I have no idea.

I probably won't be playing hgih detail games like WoW, Rs just beats everything. the windows expeirence thing is based on those who don't actually have this system I think, so anyone can rate it, so those who don't have vista, and think its bad will rate lowly, its a pretty good system none the less, I did 1/2 of what I'd do it to it yesterday and it didn't lag, but I'm not surprised since its new, i'll try over every month and test my system. I just don't want to overdo it the first try. :-#

On the keyboard I can see how much RAM is being used, its been at 39% max, so its an iffy.

I know it has a video card, I made sure of that, make and version I have no idea.

Win Key + R (I think that's how you get to run on vista) => dxdiag

I know it has a video card, I made sure of that, make and version I have no idea.

 

 

 

I probably won't be playing hgih detail games like WoW, Rs just beats everything. the windows expeirence thing is based on those who don't actually have this system I think, so anyone can rate it, so those who don't have vista, and think its bad will rate lowly, its a pretty good system none the less, I did 1/2 of what I'd do it to it yesterday and it didn't lag, but I'm not surprised since its new, i'll try over every month and test my system. I just don't want to overdo it the first try. :-#

 

 

 

On the keyboard I can see how much RAM is being used, its been at 39% max, so its an iffy.

You don't need more ram. It will be overkill for what you do.

Why the hell did you buy a gaming keyboard and mouse if you don't have a gaming computer? By this I mean a bad video card. I know for a fact your video card is your lowest Vista score. Every computer have a video card of some sort FYI. Your computer would be awesome if you got a fast video card like a 8800gtx. A 8800gts may be a bottleneck for a quad core.

The Windows Vista experience index rating is not rated by users that could make up anything they want. The rating goes by the actual hardware, piece by piece and gives it a rating based on the speed.

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You don't need more ram. It will be overkill for what you do.

 

 

 

Why the hell did you buy a gaming keyboard and mouse if you don't have a gaming computer? By this I mean a bad video card. I know for a fact your video card is your lowest Vista score. Every computer have a video card of some sort FYI. Your computer would be awesome if you got a fast video card like a 8800gtx. A 8800gts may be a bottleneck for a quad core.

 

 

 

The Windows Vista experience index rating is not rated by users that could make up anything they want. The rating goes by the actual hardware, piece by piece and gives it a rating based on the speed.

The respone I wanted..

Ok, so no RAM? works for me.

Because they looked cool, and I'm a sucker for keyboards and mice. :-#

Yea, I would have no idea about video cards, all I know is I had an option to have one, I said yes. I'll find out in a few days what kind of card I have, I'll also ask about the 8800gtx, or 8800gts, though link me, or give me a direction where to go?

Oh ok, that makes more sense, I was half heartedly trying to figure out how it was rated. ^^

Thanks ALOT!

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You don't need more ram. It will be overkill for what you do.

 

 

 

Why the hell did you buy a gaming keyboard and mouse if you don't have a gaming computer? By this I mean a bad video card. I know for a fact your video card is your lowest Vista score. Every computer have a video card of some sort FYI. Your computer would be awesome if you got a fast video card like a 8800gtx. A 8800gts may be a bottleneck for a quad core.

 

 

 

The Windows Vista experience index rating is not rated by users that could make up anything they want. The rating goes by the actual hardware, piece by piece and gives it a rating based on the speed.

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The respone I wanted..

 

 

 

Ok, so no RAM? works for me.

 

Because they looked cool, and I'm a sucker for keyboards and mice. :-#

 

 

 

Yea, I would have no idea about video cards, all I know is I had an option to have one, I said yes. I'll find out in a few days what kind of card I have, I'll also ask about the 8800gtx, or 8800gts, though link me, or give me a direction where to go?

 

 

 

Oh ok, that makes more sense, I was half heartedly trying to figure out how it was rated. ^^

 

 

 

Thanks ALOT!

Well http://www.nvidia.com would be a good place to read up on the graphics card. Since you have a quad core a 8800gts 320mb would be a bottleneck, you could maybe get away with the 640mb version. The GTX would be my recomendation, or wait for the 9 series to come out.

You could also go the ATI route. The HD 2900XTX is really fast for the price. It's around the price of the 8800gts 640mb but is faster. The brand choice would depend on what games you want to play, for instance ATI may be faster at game A but Nvidia might be faster at game B.

If you live in the United States http://www.newegg.com would be the cheapest site to buy them off of.

The gts 320 mb would not be a bottleneck for your system as it is the same GPU, but with less memory then the 640mb version. As far as graphics cards go, the 8800 series from nvidia is the fastest out there. There is three cards: the 8800gts 320 and 640 mb, which have the same processing core but with more or less memory depending on the model, and the 8800 gtx, which has 768mb of memory, and is currently the fastest graphics card out. The 8800 ultra is essentially just an overclocked 8800gtx. The 8800 just means that these are Nvidia's high end cards, opposed to the 8600/8500 series which is mid range or the 8400/8300 series which is at the low end.

If you live in the united states, as blade said, here are some links where you can buy those cards:

8800 gts (320 mb version)

8800 gts (640 mb version)

8800 gtx

These ARE the kings of graphics right now. None of them are cheap, and they suck massive amounts of power and produce massive amounts of heat, but they are FAST. Trust me, I own a couple of them. Note that no graphics card, or even a modern processor is needed to play runescape, so if that is all you do on your computer, then you are wasting your money. In addition, if you decide to buy one of these cards, measure the inside of your computer case and check your computer power supply. The gtx's are almost a foot long and can consume up to 200 watts of power during games.

As far as the windows experience rating, that is not created by people but is rather a benchmark built into windows that, based on your hardware, calculates your system speed and posts the "windows experience rating" which is the lowest score out of a group of different categories which are (if i remember correctly) CPU, Memory, hard drive and two graphics scores: windows graphics and 3d game graphics. So its likely that your graphics card is bottlenecking your system.

Sniper the reason I said the 320mb would be a bottleneck is that at higher resolutions the 320mbs of ram will not cut it. He has the rest of the system for high resolutions, so why have the video card have problems with them? Especially with the 22" monitor he got.

actually for current games, the two versions of the 8800 gts perform neck-in neck until you get into VERY high resolutions, which that monitor cannot display. here is some benchmarks: http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_ ... &chart=275

look around this page, and try different programs. For the most part, the performance is very similar.

his monitor's maximum resolution is 1680 x 1050

actually for current games, the two versions of the 8800 gts perform neck-in neck until you get into VERY high resolutions, which that monitor cannot display. here is some benchmarks: http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_ ... &chart=275

 

look around this page, and try different programs. For the most part, the performance is very similar.

 

 

 

his monitor's maximum resolution is 1680 x 1050

The games on Toms are not really new games. All of those games rely on more power than memory. I'm talking about Lost Planet, Crysis, Unreal Tournament, COD4, and Stalker. All of which at high settings will/do require atleast 512mbs of video ram.

I know it has a video card, I made sure of that, make and version I have no idea.

 

 

 

I probably won't be playing hgih detail games like WoW, Rs just beats everything. the windows expeirence thing is based on those who don't actually have this system I think, so anyone can rate it, so those who don't have vista, and think its bad will rate lowly, its a pretty good system none the less, I did 1/2 of what I'd do it to it yesterday and it didn't lag, but I'm not surprised since its new, i'll try over every month and test my system. I just don't want to overdo it the first try. :-#

 

 

 

On the keyboard I can see how much RAM is being used, its been at 39% max, so its an iffy.

:lol: .

Are you playing anything more demanding then runescape? If so why did you get a very nice quad core and 3 gigs of ram?

If you're playing other games get an 8800GTX 640mb, or if you can wait wait for the 9k series to come out. I still can't really wrap around my head how you could get such an amazing processor (I'd kill for that) but a horrible card.

ps: I'm with blade in I'd get a 640MB card, I think the 320mb might get bottlenecked.

Ok, here's my view.

Don't add any more ram for the time being (your using a 32 bit OS so it won't be recognised)

As for the video card, only get a new one if you plan on playing games which aren't flash or Java.

As for which card, I would get either the 8800GTS 640mb (I'll explain in a sec) or the 8800GTX (not the Ultra its a waste).

Why the 640mb version, well the resolution your gaming at isn't mega high, but any game (newer ones) running at above 1024 by 1280 will need more memory to max the settings effectively. And now more then ever games are demanding more video card memory to play on high/max. So to future proof your purchase go don't look at the 320mb version.

Ps I saw a amazing deal on a 8800gtx on a Canadian site, I'll have at look for it for you

You BADLY got ripped off.

For starters; You have Vista which is a BIG no, no in my books.

Secondly, I could of made that PC for you (irl) send payment via Paypal or some other way (or actual companies could of) and sent you it first class air mail for UNDER 1800 Canadian Dollars. (that includes a 500Gb Hard Drive, I hope you got that or better).

Seriously, not trying to be offensive but they practically robbed you in pure daylight, that's dreadful specs for the price.

Nice,yeah only thing really needing upgrading is a graphics card. I would wait a while for the high end dx10 cards to drop before getting one though.

For starters; You have Vista which is a BIG no, no in my books.

Well, if he's planning on playing anything other than Runescape, then no, it's not. DX10 is what a lot of the new, high quality games will be running on. It's not a bad OS, really.

(This is all coming from a guy who bows to Linus Torvalds)

(This is all coming from a guy who bows to Linus Torvalds)

Then you're quite silly. (if you say that, then what you said about Microsoft OSX (aka Vista) (aka Requires more RAM than HDD space).

Besides, Xp will end up over-running Vista, MS have said they'll stop supportin' Xp after SP3 (prove me wrong if im incorrect, I probably am).

Loads of people won't bother updating and MS will have no choice but to make an SP4 imo.

imagin how fast that would run linux....... be awsome

iv heard that vista is basicly a "shinyer" vertion of xp that has more bugs and takes more system requierments to run .....

very nice set up the monitor looks awsome so does the rest of the stuff lol

Vista isn't that bad, I have encountered 0 bugs, and itÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s a little more sparkly of Xp, but it is easier to move around, and find things. Its better then Xp 3x. But then again, I think its ultimate, home premium is the one I heard stories about, and ultimate supposedly didn't have bugs or something, apparently that last one was right.

I probably won't be getting a video card; I just wanted to know why I would need one, now I know. And I'll be taking video cards into further consideration; also, wouldn't it be better to buy a larger fan? External, or internal, idk, if I were to buy one? I've heard people complain that their graphics card has melted some hardware, but thatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s probably because they didn't listen to someone...?

Thanks a lot though, learned quite a bit. :-#

I'm still open to anything besides video cards too.

I'm also Canadian. 8-)

(This is all coming from a guy who bows to Linus Torvalds)

 

 

 

Then you're quite silly. (if you say that, then what you said about Microsoft OSX (aka Vista) (aka Requires more RAM than HDD space).

 

 

 

Besides, Xp will end up over-running Vista, MS have said they'll stop supportin' Xp after SP3 (prove me wrong if im incorrect, I probably am).

 

 

 

Loads of people won't bother updating and MS will have no choice but to make an SP4 imo.

Vista is fine. The only problem I have seen on my roomates PC (who runs vista) is that they try and over protect you a bit, which is a bit of a problem sometimes for certain games. Easy enough to get around though.

And remember everyone said they wouldn't go to XP when 98 came out? That XP was nothing more than a fancy new graphic shell and what not?

Give it time, Vista will overtake as far as OS's go in time.

For the guys saying Vista is a big no, your wrong. For starters it's better for gaming than xp because of dx10. Games made for XP are not any slower on Vista (except for the old win98 games).

Vista is the new stable OS. The drivers are mature, all the bugs have been worked out, and it's faster than when it came out. You people need to stop bashing Vista on stories you read over a year ago.

For the guys saying Vista is a big no, your wrong. For starters it's better for gaming than xp because of dx10. Games made for XP are not any slower on Vista (except for the old win98 games).

 

 

 

Vista is the new stable OS. The drivers are mature, all the bugs have been worked out, and it's faster than when it came out. You people need to stop bashing Vista on stories you read over a year ago.

If you want a gaming machine everyone knows you should run Windows 98 SE, end of story really.

For the guys saying Vista is a big no, your wrong. For starters it's better for gaming than xp because of dx10. Games made for XP are not any slower on Vista (except for the old win98 games).

 

 

 

Vista is the new stable OS. The drivers are mature, all the bugs have been worked out, and it's faster than when it came out. You people need to stop bashing Vista on stories you read over a year ago.

 

If you want a gaming machine everyone knows you should run Windows 98 SE, end of story really.

I hope your kidding.

 

 

 

Yea, I would have no idea about video cards, all I know is I had an option to have one, I said yes.

How did you just say yes? There are a decent number of graphics cards out there, and you got one without bothering to look into how good it is, if it's worth the extra money, ect..? For what you do, you don't need a fancy graphics card. If your motherboard has it's own onboard video then you don't need to buy anything if you're just playing Runescape and using basic programs. I have an old nVidia GeForce Go 6600 and I can run WoW, Lineage II, and games along those lines just fine..