Racheya Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) Time for a new release of the: >>>Tip.It Times!<<< I'd like to remind people of the rules pertaining to Times threads: Rampant flame wars have taken control of virtually every week's times discussion topics. The following guidelines must be followed when posting on this topic. Posts that ignore these guidelines will be removed. 1. You are invited and welcome to express like or dislike on articles and a particular author's writing style. It is not acceptable, however, to flame or personally insult an author. Posts that aren't anything but an attack will be removed from the topic. 2. Spelling and grammar errors can be reported to Racheya by PMing her and they will be fixed promptly. It is not necessary to post them on the discussion topic. 3. Off topic posts that do not discuss the content of that week's articles will be removed. This is not the place to discuss the direction of the times, how much you love or hate the times, etc. Off topic posts will be removed. By keeping within these guidelines, Times discussion topics will mean more for the Panel and Administration than just a place for flame wars. Flame wars do not provide any useful feedback to the Times, which is mainly what we're aiming for with these topics: feedback. This policy is effective as of now, November 17, 2010. Any posts prior to the creation of this policy may or may not be removed according to the new guidelines. When replying please make sure to clarify the article you are replying to! Thanks! If you spot any typos or mistakes in the article then please PM them to me :) Enjoy the articles! Edited March 20, 2011 by Racheya I edit for the [Tip.It Times]. I rarely write in [My Blog]. I am an [Ex-Moderator]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) EDIT: Woo! First post! Ok articles - Jagex would do more good for clans by improving infrastructure, be it clan chats, allowing some sort of official-ish clan website, something that could be tried to the RSOF, and the voice chat they've been talking about, rather then all these events. Plus, all the events seem to do is promote the really large clans anyways. At least, that's the impression I get, no that I'd really be one to notice, but still... As for the second article, beware, scammers/lurers are out there and want your crap. Still, sometimes you gotta get hurt by one of the scams to truly learn from them. I picked up 4 noted DBAs in the wilderness YEARS ago while being with some guys for a "video" about a whip PK.... Decent articles imo, good but nothing particularly special about them. Edited March 20, 2011 by Sir_Squab Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Nice DIY. PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helm_Lardar Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Well, the article about scammers is okay, but there is one thing to mention: most of these scams have some basis in truth. Some people really do double money. Some people really did trim armour. Some people really would pay you to help them with a PK video. As one person said "when you have money, you get bored". Some of the examples aren't really scams at all. I'm not an efficienado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Well, the article about scammers is okay, but there is one thing to mention: most of these scams have some basis in truth. Some people really do double money. Some people really did trim armour. Some people really would pay you to help them with a PK video. As one person said "when you have money, you get bored". Some of the examples aren't really scams at all. Well, PK vids you really gotta be careful of - it is the wilderness. If you pick nothing up, move only with the map, make sure you don't lose anything you don't want to, you should be fine. And have auto on for the part where they attack you. But you really gotta be careful - I'm sure people have tried to work auto retaliate into getting a person skulled. Says the guy who has died twice in the wilde with a blue h'ween, blue nomads cape and blue dark bow. As for doubling money/armour trimming, unless they actually give it to you in that trade, treat it like a scam. As in, trading Saradomin Rune Armour for rune armour, or paying 2m for your 1m. Otherwise it's a scam*. *There might be an exception to that, but really, you should just consider it a scam. Anyways, people who double money and trim armour probably derive their amusement out of the fact that they sound like what 90+% of the money doubles or armour trimmers are, aka scammers. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agres Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I lol'd irl at this article about the scams... if they're stupid enough to fall for those childish ones then they DESERVE to get scammed. There are far more elaborate scams out there that bank you steady mills and you have no idea of them. Which to be honest is a good thing since you believe scammers are such idiots anyway. Have fun with your false sense of belief though, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stingman Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I find that more modern scams are people trying to get paid for effigies. FFS they are the ones getting the XP. I understand some are hard to come by, like smithing. But there is no need to take advantage of that and take people's money and leave. Enjoyed the articles again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) Well, the article about scammers is okay, but there is one thing to mention: most of these scams have some basis in truth. Some people really do double money. Some people really did trim armour. Some people really would pay you to help them with a PK video. As one person said "when you have money, you get bored". Some of the examples aren't really scams at all.Well of course, all scams need a partial basis in truth, a 'too good to be true' event suggested by the scammer, otherwise they wouldn't work. And I've been watching The Real Hustle too much. I lol'd irl at this article about the scams... if they're stupid enough to fall for those childish ones then they DESERVE to get scammed. There are far more elaborate scams out there that bank you steady mills and you have no idea of them. Which to be honest is a good thing since you believe scammers are such idiots anyway. Have fun with your false sense of belief though, good luck.All this line of thought leads to is scamming being a legitimate business, a game where a lot of profit is to be had taking the money of the newer players. The consequences of that aren't hard to imagine. Also, I don't like it when people are condescending, especially to people who work hard to make Times articles. Handing justice to scammers is one thing, but preventing scamming from becoming mainstream is a much bigger can of worms. I enjoyed both articles. Edited March 20, 2011 by Will_H ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I lol'd irl at this article about the scams... if they're stupid enough to fall for those childish ones then they DESERVE to get scammed. There are far more elaborate scams out there that bank you steady mills and you have no idea of them. Which to be honest is a good thing since you believe scammers are such idiots anyway. Have fun with your false sense of belief though, good luck. Pah. Do tell? Only thing I can think of is merching/gambling, or perhaps a more subtle wilderness/unsafe CLW which you should expect to die in anyways.... Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonanananas Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 What the clan article didn't mention was that Jagex is actually working on an update to the clan chats right now, which would feature a lot of interesting stuff such as clan highscores, the prevention of multi-clanning and a lot of other neat stuff. I'd wait for that before suggesting further changes - they may already be included ;) scam article - meh. Honestly I couldn't care less if jagex prevents these scams - I don't think it hurts anyone if they fall for a scam. It's their own fault and they should learn out of it.Unless, ofc, it's a really good lure - but I haven't seen or heard of such yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 What the clan article didn't mention was that Jagex is actually working on an update to the clan chats right now, which would feature a lot of interesting stuff such as clan highscores, the prevention of multi-clanning and a lot of other neat stuff. I'd wait for that before suggesting further changes - they may already be included ;) scam article - meh. Honestly I couldn't care less if jagex prevents these scams - I don't think it hurts anyone if they fall for a scam. It's their own fault and they should learn out of it.Unless, ofc, it's a really good lure - but I haven't seen or heard of such yet. Honestly, if it's a really good lure.....you're talking someone to either dangerous CLW or Wilde. Either place you need to be prepared to die in the first place. Either that or bug abuse, which you can't really prepare for. OFFtopic: this new forum update thingy really seemed to mess up hide tags... Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangin_Blonde Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 To the first article: Clans suck. Can we please move on to something else? Second article: A fool and his money are soon parted. This is especially true on Runescape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evaluate Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 To the first article: Clans suck. Can we please move on to something else? You're entitled to your opinion, but to simply say "clans suck, nuff said" is pretty shallow. Have you ever been in a clan before? Because I'd be willing to bet your opinion would change if you actually gave them a chance. 7 years 'scape knowledge and counting99 Attack - June 8th 2010 99 Defence - August 2nd 2011 99 HP - December 2nd 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 i have been in a clan they really aren't anything special in runescape outside of nex, dungeoneering, certain minigames, and arguably corp. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangin_Blonde Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Blade said my point. Clans have no business in Runescape and for good reason. I like the idea that caters to solo players who like to play *along* next to other players, not necessarily *with* other players. Jagex is shooting themselves in the foot fawning over all these damn clans. Yes, I've been in them. For Runescape, they suck. They suck so hard they'd make a pornstar jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 that being said, voice chat for runescape could make things easier. i hate going to nex or dg and have one or more people say "skype? nty" How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evaluate Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 they really aren't anything special in runescape outside of nex, dungeoneering, certain minigames, and arguably corp. At least you don't dismiss them as absolutely worthless. Your utilization of clans may be a bit narrower, but I do understand that some people have their interests in different areas. Blade said my point. Clans have no business in Runescape and for good reason. I like the idea that caters to solo players who like to play *along* next to other players, not necessarily *with* other players. Jagex is shooting themselves in the foot fawning over all these damn clans. Yes, I've been in them. For Runescape, they suck. They suck so hard they'd make a pornstar jealous. I'm curious as to why you hate clans so much, as, quite frankly, you haven't provided much for reasoning besides an immature comparison to adult films. Jagex isn't "fawning" over clans, they're giving attention to a hefty portion of their playerbase, and their paying playerbase at that. They're a business, that's what they're supposed to do, and if they want to keep that money, they need to do a bit of fine tuning, which is what the article was about. 7 years 'scape knowledge and counting99 Attack - June 8th 2010 99 Defence - August 2nd 2011 99 HP - December 2nd 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose No Hope Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Jagex is shooting themselves in the foot fawning over all these damn clans.Don't they do that anyways when they do things like spend their resources on things like the WildyWyrm instead of permanent updates that will make Runescape better as a whole? At least the clan focused updates will have improvements that will help a good base of the Runescape community. Not to mention the possibility of voice chat making dung and team MHing much more communicative without using programs like Skype as Bladewing pointed out. [hide]unbinding green's kidneys for ltk's heartdo you farm guam like me sir ltk[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blyaunte Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 While reading the article on 'scammers and the scammed', I am reminded of the final remark of Ts_Stormrage's earlier article: "Are you happy now?" :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Phil Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Good pro tip from Brunokiller :thumbup: _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I've been to the Crunch once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakdragon39 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I really hope clans receive some good updates soon.. Like in WoW or other games where your clan is displayed with your username. And I kind of hope no one out there is actually doubling money or trimming armor.. That just feeds the flames of stupid scammers that feed off of desperate/stupid people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uath13 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Well, the article about scammers is okay, but there is one thing to mention: most of these scams have some basis in truth. Some people really do double money. Some people really did trim armour. Some people really would pay you to help them with a PK video. As one person said "when you have money, you get bored". Some of the examples aren't really scams at all. Armor trimming has always been a scam. There's no way to actually trim armor except by adding the treasure trail trim to dragon & that makes it untradable. :shame: Of course the doubling gold people pay out once in a while. Any good con artist needs a little bit of believability. If he doubles one persons money & they walk away happy other people take notice & then fall for the scam. He can afford to pay out on 1 if he dupes 10 others. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uath13 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I find that more modern scams are people trying to get paid for effigies. FFS they are the ones getting the XP. I understand some are hard to come by, like smithing. But there is no need to take advantage of that and take people's money and leave. Enjoyed the articles again. Paying for effigy help is hardly necessary especially when there are clans out there just to offer effigy assistance ( how's that for a tie in to the other article? ). I won't name any specifically but if you check the forums they're not hard to find & most of them state that payments of any kind are against their rules. I max out my assistance XP with them daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excels Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Something as simple as an overhaul of the clan chat, adding more space to accommodate members and specific ranking features, Where has Evaluate been?http://services.runescape.com/m=devblog/view_post.ws?post_id=113 I've heard from clan leaders that the other features mentioned above are in the works too. About the scam thing with the whip - can't you just teleport? And with gem cutting - it only became a scam with assist, before there were very many nonscammers, me included. And yes, I've gone through the situation mentioned in the beginning of the article on scamming. Free 100k ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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