compfreak847

Ok, I'll try to explain it... You've played Fist of Guthix, and I assume you've used magic and melee, correct? You know how your opponent switches his prayers to deal with your attacks, and you switch your attack style to combat that. That's prayer switching. Now, you know how often magic splashes on d hide outside of FoG, and seeing as tanks typically only use ranged and magic; you can just slap on protection from ranged and laugh at their maximum hit of 30. Now, say you're a maxed rune pure. You're going to be very near the level of a maxed tank. As a rune pure, you're going to have very high ranged, attack, and strength; meaning that unlike the tank, if your opponent just prays ranged or melee, they're still going to get hit for some big numbers. Also, when you hybrid in PvP worlds, you're not going to be switching every single piece of your gear when you change styles. Most people will wear Ahrim's skirt and switch their top depending on what style they're going to use (fighter torso for melee, Karil's top for ranged, Ahrim's top for mage) and switch to a rune defender when they want to melee and a mage's/Zamorak book when they want to mage or range. So your saying that a rune pure is > tank during prayer because he hits higher? That has nothing to do with prayer (and for the record, melee max with whip + prayer is around 24; range max with rune c bow and prayer is 36). The big difference is that the ranger has an extremely high hit rate on rune armor and 45 defence. Take my word for it - 45 defence will be eating almost constantly to try and keep up with the hits of 99 range. 99-99 melee stats vs. 99 defence + vengance are nothing like 99 range vs. 45 defence.

Ehh, 'tis fine. I happen to love math, but it's not for everyone :P

Do you people have any clue what probability means? Obviously I know that previous kills don't increase your chances -.- What it does mean is that you have a higher probability of a drop in 10,000 kills then in 1 kill. I thought this was taught in basic high school math classes :wall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability Stay classy, tip.it...

That would be you correct? *compfreak847 hugs Microsoft and pats them on the back. I program in the easiest and fastest environments for the vast majority of computers. I see no reason to change that. Your in high school? Your female? I learn more every day :-#

A little Googling. I also have the latest magazine with PC World's Annual Customer Satisfaction Survey (60k+ participants) that ranks Dell above most of the other manufactures. Same with the PC Magazine survey. That's weird. Were these dated for 2 years ago? At the moment HP is kicking Dell in the [wagon]. It was two years ago that Dell was terrible. After Micheal Dell retired the new CEO outsourced all of the customer support to India, causing their ratings to tank. Just recently Dell took the company back over again and fixed the customer support problem as well as made some other changes. (Apparently he just walked in one day and fired the entire upper management of the company) About what I was going to say. All those figures were for 2008. Where are you getting your information about dell being terrible\HP being great? College. And making us program in 2008 programs makes me think they're pretty damn updated. Since when does the newness\components of computers have anything to do reliability and tech support? A few isolated experiences in your collage vs. hundreds of thousands of people across the US? I've personally had horrible experiences with them. I've had 3 laptops die premature deaths from them. I'm repairing a 4th one now, the motherboard completely failed a month out of warranty. I'm just hoping the hard drive is fine, as my client has 10gb+ of irreplaceable business documents and personal photos on it.

The bottom line is, you can do precisely zero about it. It's all up to your ISP and computer.

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compfreak, I think I've been agreeing with you all along, except you didn't like my examples. However, you believe that your stuff's worth is what other people value it at, and I believe that my stuff is worth at what I value it at. Big difference, but I'm glad to see you understand my view. OK, I see what you mean. The problem is that the OP is obviously referring to the former. You are losing money; you aren't losing sentimental value. You have lost 38m GP, irregardless of what the whip is worth 'to you'. Your losing in game money when it drops; that has nothing to do with how much YOU think it is worth. @Langer: Gratz on using a better example then I could think of. You accountants are good at that :P

[hide=] Err.. What about protect from melee makes it harder to use then protect from range? Can't that tank just protect from melee too? dd++ on 99 defence = 0-0, I would know. AGS = well over 50% miss rate; max hit of 43 with protect from melee. Range tanks can hit 60s without a speccing weapon (36 with prayer). You've forgotten a big thing though - you can't have it all. If your meleer has 45 defence, he's not going to be doing much besides eating, even with prayer. If he has 70, he's still going to get ripped apart, but he's only going to have 90 attack\strength, dropping his max to very close to the rangers with an AGS and guaranteeing him zeros when he tries to spec. You know what I mean by prayer-switching, right? Tanks are only going to use 2 styles when they hybrid, and it's quite obvious when they're going to range as opposed to mage. Everyone else is going to be using 3; it's quite difficult to defend yourself from 'surprise' attacks. Also, the d stone bolt special isn't always going to happen when you want it to; don't act like you can hit 60s on command. Furthermore, most hybriding is going to be happening in at least level 20 wilderness - defeating the issue of level difference. What are you possibly talking about? I have NEVER seen a 45 defence rune pure suddenly put on mystic and begin barraging me (not that it would matter, I would take him down in seconds). I have also never see one put on d hide and a good shield and begin ranging me. I can prayer switch just as easily as them, giving them a total advantage of 0. [/hide] Ehh... you have no idea what I'm talking about so I'll just drop it. [/hide] That's the part I don't understand. Perhaps you could explain it to me? I'm assuming it couldn't possibly mean 3 combat styles, as I have never seen a rune pure put on d hide and range then put on mystic and mage. It's every bit as simple to pray melee on a meleer as range on a ranger, so saying that 'range tanks fail cause meleers can pray protect' just doesn't work.

I hate you :uhh:

Exactly. When 89% of the world, and 98% of my client run XP\Vista, I'm not worried. Most people I know would sit down in front of linux\mac and ask 'Where's the start button?'. I have nothing against either OS, but MS is currently dominant, with no evidence of a fall in the near future.

Around 1/3000. So you had a 63% chance of getting one by now, not that bad. Kill 10,000 and you'll have over 90%. It's all about statistics and probability, although some uninformed folks will say 'its all luck!!! j00 can getz one in 1 kill or 1 million, itz teh luckzers!" Yeah, I called it. It's some sort of forum game, "guess what the below poster will post". Maybe not immediately below, but it will happen :P

*compfreak847 hugs Microsoft. Yep :P I love Visual Studio, covers a ton of languages under a single standard interface, regardless of if I'm designing web pages or applications. Plus Windows is still over 90% market share (basically every non-tech person I know), and will probably gain more with windows 7 (the beta looks really nice). Sad.... real programmers don't mess with Microsoft [cabbage]. Your choice, I like the well integrated, cohesive programing environment with a huge wealth of knowledge and community support on the web, plus practically guaranteed compatibility with any modern computer with the .NET framework.

A little Googling. I also have the latest magazine with PC World's Annual Customer Satisfaction Survey (60k+ participants) that ranks Dell above most of the other manufactures. Same with the PC Magazine survey. That's weird. Were these dated for 2 years ago? At the moment HP is kicking Dell in the [wagon]. It was two years ago that Dell was terrible. After Micheal Dell retired the new CEO outsourced all of the customer support to India, causing their ratings to tank. Just recently Dell took the company back over again and fixed the customer support problem as well as made some other changes. (Apparently he just walked in one day and fired the entire upper management of the company) About what I was going to say. All those figures were for 2008. Where are you getting your information about dell being terrible\HP being great?

With 99 att/str/def/hits and 49 prayer you would be 119 combat, and you could also have 99 magic and ranged without gaining a combat level, it is your fault then that you are not maxed stats for your combat level. Whereas you could also be 50 att, 99 str, 99 def, 95 hits, 99 magic, 49 prayer, 99 ranged at 102 combat. You would be losing to somebody 85.7% of you level, in my opinion that is still a reasonable level to lose against, especially if you don't have maxed stats for your level. OnIIx, you could raise your magic and ranged to 99 and gain only 1 combat from the hits levels and then easily beat a tank. How could you 'easily beat the tank'? You now have the same range\defence stats he does. Because now hes equal in a distanced fight and more powerful up close....not too hard to realize. It'll be a reasonably close fight between the MAXED meleer (level 122) and the tank ranger (level 102). But since your arguing over a difference of 20 combat levels, couldn't the ranger simply get 99 attack\strength and be even? A maxed meleer\ranger\tank at level 122+ is a close match for a level 102 range tank. Is a level 82 meleer a close match for a 102 range tank?

With 99 att/str/def/hits and 49 prayer you would be 119 combat, and you could also have 99 magic and ranged without gaining a combat level, it is your fault then that you are not maxed stats for your combat level. Whereas you could also be 50 att, 99 str, 99 def, 95 hits, 99 magic, 49 prayer, 99 ranged at 102 combat. You would be losing to somebody 85.7% of you level, in my opinion that is still a reasonable level to lose against, especially if you don't have maxed stats for your level. OnIIx, you could raise your magic and ranged to 99 and gain only 1 combat from the hits levels and then easily beat a tank. How could you 'easily beat the tank'? You now have the same range\defence stats he does.

*compfreak847 hugs Microsoft. Yep :P I love Visual Studio, covers a ton of languages under a single standard interface, regardless of if I'm designing web pages or applications. Plus Windows is still over 90% market share (basically every non-tech person I know), and will probably gain more with windows 7 (the beta looks really nice).

A little Googling. I also have the latest magazine with PC World's Annual Customer Satisfaction Survey (60k+ participants) that ranks Dell above most of the other manufactures. Same with the PC Magazine survey.

Ehh, there's a thousand little nitpicky things I could argue about, but we'll leave it at: Nice guide!

Basically :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network

Yeah, but I still think it's ridiculous that they won't let me get a refund. Just another replacement or send it back with a refund - 15%. I guess I'll just go with a Mac then. Thanks. : Woah, don't be hasty there... You could buy two fault dells for the cost of one mac. Or build 3 :( And were you the one with the ¥ in your description asking for the alt code like a year ago?

I'm fairly proficient in VB.NET (If I can't code it myself, I can do it with google :P ), and I know some about c++. Fairly good with most web languages like ASP, Javascript, HTML, CSS. Tried a little Java, did some perl a few years ago. Nothing too low level.

Wouldn't really be helpful to me, I mostly post in H&A, Rants, Tech\Computers, General Discussion, General Guides. A minute is enough for a 2 paragraph, 15 sentence essay - something that virtually no thread needs for a response, especially some H&A threads that can be answered with 2 sentences in 10 seconds.

http://www.theacsi.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=149&Itemid=157&c=Dell+Inc. Dell is the highest rated windows PC maker, below apple. You got a lemon, it happens with any company. And I've dealt with HPs support before, it's no fun at all. They're supposed to be rolling out a new support system early '09, but I haven't seen it yet -.-

While I agree some players might that get that rate, some get higher. I get a noticeable amount higher, and from Zarfot's results he got in the order of 160k (overall) or so per hour. As for it being argument closed, i'll sum it up as: End of thread and win-win? That is awesome :thumbsup: . I think you two need to meet up and get drunk together. All that fierce debate and it ends with courtesy. That's how a good debate is supposed to end :P