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I did, and all it references to is the appearance of maturity and capability of long term decision making. Neither do your petty insults, used as an excuse to cover up being proven wrong. How are we supposed to debate over something we agree upon? Please teach me the skill, it'd enable a lot more exciting debates :shock: Agreed, but Armored Zombies still wins :P Copy and paste or (handier) Greasemonkey scripts.

All he and you mentioned was that both children and adults can appear mature, which I completely supported. My argument, detailed at viewtopic.php?f=66&t=787454&start=360#p6563861, was never responded to. Odd, perhaps you should rethink in light of you having been proven wrong, as you seem to be having difficulty dealing with it. Lack of debating skills would indicate that I would generally be proven wrong in debates, when it seems to be the opposite. I tried that with other posts, but it generally requires a copy and paste of the contents, the name of the deleting mod, and clear-cut evidence that no rule was being broken to argue it successfully to the admins - they aren't perfect either, and the prefer to let things rest rather then argue a technicality. It didn't bother me much, though; I had communicated my point, and I let it slide.

I'm afraid you mis-remembered it, it was I who posted the definitions. If you wish to continue that debate, I suggest using the appropriate thread. Since my last post remains on it, I'll ignore further posts in this thread and wait for you to post there. What does that have to do with this argument? A mod deleted my signature, but it wasn't against the rules, as an admin confirmed. Mods aren't perfect.

No, I didn't. What thread are you referring to? I'm talking about the Wilderness thread where you were determined to prove that I didn't know what I meant using a made up definition, which I quickly corrected by pointing to the dictionary page to back mine up. You responded by promptly leaving. Ah, so you agree that my thread is indeed a good argument with no current evidence against it? In that case, what are we arguing about? I was under the impression you thought I was proven wrong in this thread :!: That's odd, someone must have hacked your account and submitted this post. I'd advise you to change your password and contact the mods so the proper action can be taken against him.

Last time I checked, the dictionary doesn't do much realty concoction and caries a bit more credence then someone who tries to argue with it. That would be a fun argument, if it were not for the simple fact that the 'contradicting evidence', as you so call it, thus far does not exist. I wish it did, though. Someone needs to hurry up and prove slayer better :cry: Also, the argument "He proved me wrong last time we argued, therefore he is incapable of recognizing he is wrong!" argument caries little water, but does carry a delicious taste of irony.

Jagex has never released articles on algebraic equations to my knowledge, and Wikiepdia is a widely accredited source for accurate information. Here's another source if you don't really trust wikipedia; I can assure you that they are quite reliable: http://library.thinkquest.org/20991/prealg/eq.html

http://www.mathleague.com/help/algebra/algebra.htm You might find this interesting. You'll probably learn it in a few years in school, but it'll help you understand for now. Read through it, and do a few practice problems so you know how to solve basic equations. Then come back and it'll all make sense :thumbsup:

What does the number of people agreeing with you have to do with anything at all, especially when you were proven wrong? Also, what does that have to do with slayer?

Since you seem to have given up on the argument, I'll clarify my original point for future readers. Jagex has done a great job combating RWT, and continues to make smart business decisions despite a few angry players trying to be business experts thinking otherwise.

I wasn't aware that algebra and a capitalistic form of business fell under "opinion", but I suppose you didn't bother reading my links. I'll be nice and give you an example. Let "X" equal revenue generated. X - Cost (FTP) - Cost (PTP) + Gross Income = Profit For Profit to remain steady, Cost + Gross Income must remained inversely balanced. Therefore, if Cost (FTP) is increased without increasing Gross Income, Cost (PTP) must be reduced to maintain profit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buisness See the section under 'capitalist business', pointing out that the point of a business, in this situation, is to produce revenue. Now, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra, if one subtracts a number from one side of an equation, the resulting solution will be lower then the previous solutions. Now, last time I checked, Algebra was taught in 7th to 8th grade, leading me to believe your either a hermit with a poor understanding of math, or too young to legally post on these forums in the USA.

Unusual, for someone whos avatar proudly endorses "gettin stuipd". That being said, it would considerably improve communication if you decided who you were talking to.

Less money spent on game development = fewer updates. Quite simple.

Point being? Keep thinking you know more about a game then the massive company who created it. Makes you look real smart. Point made. You saying YOU do? Mm. Sure. Who are you talking to? You quoted my post, but you seem to be referring to someone else :?

Gladly. Less money spent on updates = fewer updates. Then why are you arguing? Point being? Sort of ruins your little point of "no updates in the past 5 years". Nice try with the ad hominem argument, but puns are generally considered to be the lowest form of humor. Sarcasm idicates cunniningness and a contempt for the target, and is widely regarded to be an efficient method with which to subtle communicate the above. Looks like you made a typo there, then. Perhaps you could tell me what you really meant to say? :roll: Do I really have to spell it out for you? I never said most, and I specifically said that it was the exact opposite. It might be a good idea to read my posts before responding to them =D>

Point being? Keep thinking you know more about a game then the massive company who created it. Makes you look real smart.

Could you point out the word 'drastically' in my post? I don't remember seeing it, either I'm forgetting what I wrote or your making crap up. If it's my fault, quote me and I'll rectify it. Now, what I did say is that taking money from members and giving it to FTP will result in fewer updates for members. I'm afraid we're playing two different games. In my game, FTP got a large number of updates in the past year, like duel arena, BH, FOG, corrupted items, GE, forums, RS HD, and other various updates. I play Runescape, at http://www.runescape.com. What game do you play? Could you again point out where I used the word 'most', or must I be again forced to assume your simply making up things and pretending that I said them for your argument? I'll repeat my statement for you again, as you seem to have been having some trouble remembering it: Taking money from members and giving it to FTP will result in fewer updates for members.

I'm hoping thinking he's doing it on purpose to be ironic.

Gear: a hatchet. Time to get back from Lumbridge bank: Under one minute. Glory to edge, withdraw a hatchet, house tele, and an energy pot. Run through abyss and pick up stuff nearby. It's very simple. If your connection is so glitchy that it takes 5 times as long to do anything, you shouldn't be slaying dangerous monsters. Also, have you ever been to bloodvields? You don't see someone who will repair your grave every 5 minutes, or even every hour. It's essentially deserted, and it should be if your cannoning anyway. But a server awareness bug carries much more potential for a serious bug, and is very difficult to test - requiring many man hours and time.

All of my rates are mentioned earlier in the threads - I combined both Qeltar's and mine, and the demon testing came later when the rates were called into question. However, you ended up agreeing with them, so I scrapped the demon project. See above. I'm referring to threw it out there meaning you didn't provide enough details - I mentioned all of them earlier. No, I asked for the drop profits without any rare drops. I highly doubt all of those numbers don't include any rares, and you still have made no mention of banking time - a 150 vs. 200 task has the same banking time but considerably different killing times, skewing the rates if they are not separated. Unfortunately, the kill rate certainly isn't 300, and the drop rate isn't 1/125. I covered this long ago. Price drops were another reason for seperation. 45k is the standard for my laid-back slaying. It's my personal rate. How do you plain to "interpret" it differently? All of it was referring to questions that you didn't look into carefully enough. Like separation of drop rates, it's required for debate, and was not mentioned. If you have the info give it, if you don't, say so. It's quite obvious that it was already read, and the information was not in any of the questions. Stop playing dumb. We didn't argue for 40 pages over non existent rates. I also got my signature removed for being oversized when it wasn't. It took 2 weeks and a dozen PMs to various admins to get it restored and the moderator punished. Mods aren't perfect, and the argument that "a mod said you were wrong once, so your obviously wrong now" doesn't really hold water.

Hating too. Do you like credit card payments, and 90% of the updates? Can you imagine the massive number of subscribers Jagex would lose if they dropped credit card payments - and even that would only delay the problem a few months? It's the inevitable end of RS.

Or there aren't, and Jagex has done a good job with workarounds. Of course, that would mean that Jagex, a company with hundreds of the brightest minds in Europe, who has programed and coded a game from the ground up to make millions of dollars for nearly a decade, actually knows MORE about their game then a random 17 year old (profile) making snotty forum posts without a hint of a suggestion. How absurd.

A completely ignorant assumption? Are you really that clueless? How do you think they pay for the servers and bandwidth, magical fairies and pixie dust? Do I recall saying it makes me special? No. What I DO recall saying is that, because I pay for updates, I should get them. It's like buying a toothpaste tube from walmart, then having them distribute 1 capful of toothpaste to everyone in the store, including you, for your $2.79. I'm paying to get updates, not to have my money donated to several million people. If I want to do that, I'll donate to a charity where it will go to real needy people. (Which I do, I tithe 10% of my income through my church. So don't bother trying to argue that line of reasoning).

Working was an euphorism. The game is specifically designed to be fum. So your argument is "because Jagex didn't make it impossible, it's obviously not bad at all". Sorry, but Jagxe doesn't dictate what items we lose, how long we take to obtain them, and how we feel about them. What on earth does that have to do with losing specific items? We're not comparing the whole of RS to RL, we're comparing item LOSS. Again, how does that even remotely relate? We're talking about the difference between losing items in real life and losing items in RS. For that matter, you can't compare money in RL to money in RS. Not that it has anything to do with the argument #-o No, the reason we play RS is because private servers are complete crap. Horribly outdated gameplay, graphics that look like RSC, abandoned with nothing to do on them. If a person on the real RS was given the choice to replace the items he just lost PKing for free, every person I've ever met on RS would take it.

Do you have difficulty reading? I specifically said that my first post was opinionated, but I switched over to factual for the sake of debate. Yes, because everyone knows that mods are perfect divine beings, and having a post deleted by them signifies the ultimate in ignorance. I wasn't aware that you had simply pulled numbers out of your behind to come up with your rates. Mine WERE based on testing, and are extensively detailed for each task (along with profit rates) earlier in this thread. OK, we can do it that way. My numbers 75k. What's yours? If it's anything else, it's wrong. Go retest all your data a few months and get back to me. You need numbers to argue, not something you threw out with no information whatsoever :roll: All I see is a number spit out with total drops. I'm not talking simply about whips, I'm talking about all rare drops. Dragon boots are an example, along witih the 'standard' rares like crystal keys - something that is very important when dealing with razor thin profit margins; a few lucky or unlucky drops over a few tasks can completely throw up your total numbers. I hate to break it to you, but you apparently failed to realize we're still talking about my first post. Is it necessary to justify my opinion to you? No. Is it necessary to justify my facts to you in order to have an argument? No, duh. Go back and read my posts.