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That's still very present in capitalism too.

Err... no. If the supply for the primary market was cut low then the demand for the secondary market would rise. Then what are you proposing? It can't be more strict regulation or else we wouldn't arguing, now would we? As you've said before, "The majority of criminals using knives over guns do so not because they "pick and choose" the less lethal weapon, but because the less lethal weapon is more readily available to them." So which one is it? Do criminals pick and choose for specific reasons or not? Mind showing me when I suggested that kids should use guns? I said it was acceptable for an elderly lady to have a gun for protection. Also, you must remember that these two groups are also the ones in need of self-defense the most. And handing guns to criminals? No, I don't think there are many old ladies who can be classified as criminals. They're usually harmless. ;) What part don't you understand about, "That's not all there is to it!"? Banned/disallowed/cultural-movement-arguing-against-guns-as-self-defense. It's the same thing. Is the difference really that big of a deal? You're arguing semantics once again. Ah, so they didn't come to pull the trigger of the gun they loaded and bought... even though that's what they just did. Not sure I follow you there... :D Replace that convenient situation with a knife. Does the victim hear any shots? No, a gunshot is the equivalent to a stab/slash from a knife and I don't know about you but it's harder to miss when you're that close. Well, this scenario didn't work out too good for you. You're going to use an argument with an example of someone surviving from a gunshot? Okay, that sounds like the equivalent of someone getting stabbed and the criminal walking away while the victim's still alive. I never said that all criminals have the intent to kill though - only the ones who do go through killing purposely. Obviously they didn't have the intent to kill in that situation since the guy with the gun doesn't try to ensure death so that would translate to the knife guy not wanting to ensure the death either. What's your point? My argument was that gun murders can easily be replaced with knife murders because the intentions are the same - those scenarios are not murders.

No, it's not. The doctor obviously went through much more work to get to where he is today and the bagger had to go through a dinky interview at the most. Now, on the other end of the spectrum, I don't think it's fair for someone to live like a queen just because everyone loves her phenomenal voice while there are thousands of starving children dying on the other side of the world because they are incapable of getting any income. I guess the world just can't be fair. Not all high-paying jobs require as much work though. There are some jobs that require tons of work and dedication and don't pay nearly as much as something like that of a supermodel. We can't make the claim that everyone who has money earned all of it "fair and square" through hard work.

Wait a sec... you are saying that it is a choice until proven otherwise. Why not the other way around? I hate the fling-the-burden-of-proof game. -.- Differences in age are not the same as differences in gender. There are so many other things to take into account. (Elderly men can take advantage of younger girls easily. That's a big setback to pedophilia. Can you think of anything like that regarding homosexuality?) A thief makes a fully conscious decision to steal. A homosexual does not make a fully conscious decision to be 'aroused' by men.

Were you talking about me? One of my arguments was that the black market always exists and by taking away guns, you are only getting rid of the legal guns - self-defense guns. It doesn't make sense because the illegal guns - the guns that are the problem - remained untouched. A murder instrument is a murder instrument. People both know what the intentions of someone who pull either of those two weapons out are. In reality when someone is in a situation like that, people don't have the time to sit there and think to themselves, "Guns are more lethal than knives because according to Venomai's statistics on TIF gunshot wounds cause more homicides than knife wounds, therefore I feel more threatened when I come across a gun". You might as well just say that the majority of people have a phobia of trucks because they are dangerous and lethal as well. You're arguing semantics. There's nothing wrong with an old lady having a gun in her house to protect herself and her children. And like I said, even without guns in the equation, there are other factors to consider (how things would be like in the context of not having guns around anymore). Hard drug possession, wreckless driving, and stabbings are not equivalent to wanting effective self-defense. So what makes you think guns would be much different? So you're saying the criminal will just give up in the process of trying to kill their victims? Umm, how is purposely making the conscious decision to load your gun, take it to the scene, aim it at someone, and pull the trigger "not going through with it"? Call that twisting words if you want, but I just call it rearranging the pieces to the puzzle.

Appears like you are a Slayer, so I'd say Guthans. If you were more into PVP then Veracs would be the better choice. This belong in Help and Advice, just for the record... :shame:

Yeah, that's a big one too. I've always loved leveling up and there's a good variety of skills to choose from so you won't get bored that easily.

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Annoying friends who keep bothering me about something and as a checklist.

I never even bothered with chat. I entered once and it just looked like a boring tea party. No offense... :ohnoes: I'd rather talk about more thought invoking subjects on the forums.

It passes the time when I'm really bored. Used to play it because of friends but I learned that real life friends are far more valuable. :lol:

Slayer... I would have maxed out combat by now if this skill didn't exist. -.-

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Slayer - South of Heaven

I don't think calling someone a noob is nearly as emotionally damaging as bullying can be. :lol: However, if someone is harassing you online through means of swearing and really insulting you then I think that's where the line is drawn. You shouldn't do that online anyways because you can't make a fair judgment on a person just based on their skills in a game.

Yes, plus you can just as easily say posters should be banned for "offensive posts". I think bans should belong to the scammers mostly.

It only sounds normal to all of us now because that's the way things have been lately. It wasn't always like that and yet we were still having technological advances.

Likes: -Bloodvelds: Easy to camp, good Xp, charms. -Dusties: Easy to camp, charms, good drops. -Black Drags: Good money and easy to Range. -Jellies: I don't know. Just easy to kill I guess. -Nechs: Good Xp, good drops. Dislikes: -Steel Drags: Takes forever to kill and crowded. -Lizards: Takes forever to get to, inconvenient to slay. -Gargoyles: Inconvenient to slay. -Black Demons: Hit too hard. -Inferno Mages: Boring and bad Xp.

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If you don't recall some of my earliest posts, I was always in favor of the strict filters. I always thought we should be able to use guns for self-defense too though. Because I was giving you reasons why people are just as easily intimidated by knives and you disagreed. I was talking more in broad terms. "Whoa, this man has a knife out on me - he's serious!" Not everyone can handle that the same way. Not everyone has the cool nerve to negotiate during a time like that and not everyone can run like hell. That's why old ladies and children are easy targets for criminals. That's what I was looking for. Your only argument is that extra 29%? You can't just say "Guns are 29% worse than knives". #-o That's a linear way of thinking. You have to remember, there are other factors to the story. Criminal intent, knives are easier to conceal and obtain, knives don't make loud noticeable sounds, etc. Yeah but you don't see them banning those things - equivalent to your argument that guns are not proper defense because their availability supposedly makes them worse. You might say that you're not in favor of a ban, but that's what it sounds like to me. :? America? The same place where the Prohibition happened? Unless victim can escape, police come in time, or utilize self-defense successfully, then the outcome will be about the same. Usually that's not even the case though. But for the ones who do go through with it, it most certainly is or else they wouldn't do it (with the exception of accidents of course). Give the innocent a handicap while you let the criminals roam around with the most lethal weapon they want? Brilliant! :roll: Innocent people dying because they can't defend themselves as sufficiently as criminals can = Detriment to society

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I think a membership is necessary after you complete all F2P Quests, have Full Rune, and have at least level 30 in all F2P Skills.

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Why is that? Sure, allowing security forces to have them isn't as risky but there are some cops that have been known to abuse this privilege. I think guns should be regulated carefully to those who want them for self-defense. What do cops have to do to have their guns? Pass a few tests and go through training. I don't see how that's much different from strict regulation for your Average Joes. Cops used to be Average Joes too after all. How many deaths are pens responsible for? My guess is not too many at all. :lol: Comparing a knife to a gun isn't the same as comparing a pen to a knife. Knives and guns are both commonly used murder weapons and are usually successful. This is like when you used butter knives as an example about why you think intimidation has nothing to do with psychology. If someone pulls a knife on you, I think their intentions are clear. Let me ask you something. If someone got angry at you and pulled their knife out on you, what would you do? Now compare that to what you would do if they pulled out a pen. My point is that guns and knives have a lot more in common in this context than knives and pens do. A knife is a lethal weapon. Drug, car, and knife deaths are completely inevitable then? Regardless of the differences...? Wait a second. You can't just throw the differences out the window here. It's ignorant to assume that there are no other factors that contribute to this. As I've said before, the media, gangs, drugs, government, culture, etc. all have to do with the problem because when it comes to the supply and demand, America isn't much different from Switzerland. The only difference is that we have different lifestyles. I'm still standing beside what I said. I believe that if a criminal wants someone dead, they are going to try harder if they are given a less lethal weapon. This might not be the case for every murder or attempted murder, but I'm sure it's not as small of a deal as you're making it out to be. So the murder was an accident? :-k I don't think you understand me. If a criminal obtains and loads a gun, points it at someone, and pulls the trigger (purposely and consciously) - I'm pretty sure that's saying, "I want you dead". I didn't mean we should wait; I meant we should come up with more effective ideas. Something that doesn't scream, "Come get me criminals! I'm innocent and defenseless!" Looks like my :?: didn't suffice since you never expanded on this. I'll just say that you sound very contradictory. Are you saying you want ineffective self-defense available?

What am I doing on TIF during Christmas? Oh yeah, testing out my new mouse. 8-) I didn't really give anyone anything since I don't have a job or anything but I gave my girlfriend some nose rings. I also got an amp and lots of band T's. \