And this makes it "morally wrong" to be homosexual? I always defined morally wrong as doing something that negatively affected someone... I don't see how being gay or [bleep] fits that category. The only real argument I've seen, if you can call it that, is that the bible says so. But hey, I'm an agnostic, so I don't really think that works. And yes, 4737_Carlin, you may now tell me that I'm going to hell. :wink: I'm more than willing to have that debate, but preferably not on this thread. Actually, that quote was directed towards Bubsa's lizard. Your point? In your eyes, they're still a creation of God. And while I'm not a man big enough to question or challenge your faith, if you do believe in God creating animals with 'defunk' (by your definition) genitalia, then what's to say that it makes it immoral to be so, if God created it that way for some of his other creatures?