deyan2

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Only in the beginning, at this moment it doesn't any more (and yes, my comp is even 6 years old :()

That's a thing I also did expect, but appearantly this doesn't happen. 80% Off the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs cutting there are combat lvl 3 and if they have a fight with a mugger they simply run away (a thing they do succeed in because the mugger needs to hit them for over 40 times before dieing, unlike wizards, than they can only be hitted about 10 times). Next to that do wizards hit from a little distance so it takes a while before the autoÃÆÃâÃâër actually really does fight with the wizard. If autoÃÆÃâÃâërs gain their combat than they will have to put more time in their account and that's a thing they certainly won't appriciate :wink: :) Probably because they don't speak German. Ow my god... You really really do think they aren't autoÃÆÃâÃâërs in the normal English worlds? :roll: Nvm than, peoples like you will probably never understand what's going on. :( I'm not a skiller, but let me just speak for them for a moment: No. The average skiller will probably like to be saver in or close near a bank and a average skiller absolutely doesn't care about being unsave in a forrest they won't get in anyway. If you don't know where you are talking about than plz don't talk at all oke ;) and especially NOT for others, because they will probably feel ashamed for you.

Jagex must change the map thing right above every single day a little bit. AutoÃÆÃâÃâërs need that map high detailed while normal players hardly care about the whole map. ;) Normal players don't need much more as a little bit north east south west. This way all the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs need to refresh the whole map every day and that will make them totally crazy :D. There don't need to be a big change or something, just a few small details.

I think it is a great idea! Double the banners means about 1.5 times the cash means Jagex can ask more employees means that they are faster be able to check reports so they can ban autoÃÆÃâÃâërs and other rulebreakers faster, means everybody is happy (but rulebreakers). My runescape gamescreen looks like this: As you can see there can easely come adverts at the left or right. The only problem that could exist is that there is also more lag. But advertisings creating lag could easely be reported so... I like the idea, can I come in your fanlist ;) A advert like this: http://servedby.advertising.com/site=00 ... s=1/optn=1 for example

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This: I did know I could type a few names there, but I didn't know I also need to write down "Suspected Rule 7 Breakers". I'm going to try it straight away :thumbsup:

Ow yea, something like this: http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=785 yea, smart idea indeed, but somehow they use a proxy :( ;) If you really hate long lists of autoÃÆÃâÃâërs I got another nice picture for you: click on it and scroll down and you will see it really comes from http://www.runescape.com I hope you can do something against them (I really do!) :P yours, deyan2

So... This will be annoying for skillers while it doesn't stop autoÃÆÃâÃâërs? :roll: Than it isn't a good idea I'm affraid :(

I don't agree, most normal persons (also F2p) got over 20QP, but autoÃÆÃâÃâërs? No they don't... That's also the reason why green dragonautoÃÆÃâÃâërs don't have a rune platebody, simply because they think it's a waste of time to complete dragonslayer. If you are talking about "THOUGHTLESS" you really need to think twice where you are talking about. If you only have to complete one quest than the same thing will happen as with rune essence a long time ago :( deyan2

Tell me what idea's you support supporters list: - deyan2 1,2 - - - I have tested it now and the wizards killed me in 10 hits and the muggers killed me after 41 hits (the test was with a combat lvl 3, defence lvl 1, hp lvl 10 a wizzard and a mugger killing me, both without armour, like most autoÃÆÃâÃâërs got)

Idea 1: Last time I saw loads and loads of autoÃÆÃâÃâërs between lumbridge and Draynor village: The pink part = attacking muggers yellow = attacking wizards red = where first screenshot has been made I also saw that a few of these autoÃÆÃâÃâërs did get attacked by muggers (combat lvl 6), these muggers somehow lost it every single time because the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs simply ran away and even if they didn't ran away they still didn't die while their combat is lower. Somehow close near the bank near Draynor village, I saw a few wizards (combat lvl 7) and they did beat the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs quite easely, but they could only hit them for about 3 hits. My suggestion is to switch these two creations, because of several reasons. 1: There has been a bankrobbery in this specific bank and in that case it is more logical that there are muggers near the bank as wizards 2: It's more safe for skillers who like to bank safe, and skillers probably won't walk inside a forrest if they want to be save. 3: Normal spoken wizards are the creatures that live in forrests and not the creatures that live near a bank. 4: AutoÃÆÃâÃâërs will simply die faster and get more trouble this way and skillers don't cut yew logs here anyway (you can see in german worlds, there are no lvl 3/4/5 cutting yew logs at that place unlike in normal worlds) Idea 2: My latest suggestion is to make yew logs worth more as a bronze/iron/steel axe. This will mean that if a autoÃÆÃâÃâër dies that he will loose his axe and not his yew logs. (although he could sell his yew logs in the general store and buy a new axe with the cash he did get from it :( , but that's a diffrend story, at least it should be better if they loose their axe and need to write a new script. Maybe bob axes sell his axes for a high price while they aren't worth that much and the (general) shop could buy yew logs for cheap, annoying for peoples who are selling yew logs to the shop, but be honest who the ???? is selling yew logs to the general shop?!). Ow, for peoples who are still thinking they are skillers and not autoÃÆÃâÃâërs: This is a german world: Why don't those skillers play here? :roll:

No, in first case because skillers are not be able to do anything they want this way, in second case this does allready happen, the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs don't wield their axe but keep it in their inventory. This makes it more easy for them to repair it if the axehead flies off. Has allready been done, if you report long lists in every case. This mean that you can report xxxx1, xxxx2, xxxx3, xxxx4 and so on within 1 minit. But as far as I know you still can't report xxxx1, asdf5, fslk3, werw9 within 1 minit... :( You can try it, just go to a place with a lot of autoÃÆÃâÃâërs, find one with a number behind, add him, add the numbers around it also and report them all one for one ;) deyan2

Well as long as I see lists like these: I keep on doubting about their way of banning... Nevertheless also I know they are doing things about them. I think there must come a special part where you can report long lists of them very fast. At this moment it is only possible to report long lists in the custommer support place, but when I report there (with a nonmember noob account indeed but whatever) I only receive a automessage about "you can look up the answer in the Customer Support section" :roll: right... The answer really will be there... I also think that quest idea is quite a good solution, autoÃÆÃâÃâërs will definetly have more trouble that way.

To be honest I don't know a lot about computers, but what if I should use a proxy and straigth after every log in and out simply remove the cookies I did get from runescape? :roll: Btw maybe it sounds weird, but I thought Jagex did chainge the world connections allready sometimes, to prevent making it possible to log in to world 1 or 2 along a illigal way. Nevertheless I should love it if it works. :D :wink: :)

So that's the way how autoÃÆÃâÃâërs get ÃÆââââ¬Ã¡Ãâì and $ :-k maybe Jagex thought you also where a autoÃÆÃâÃâër :P weird bug, seems cool. ;) another strange thing, that tree that you are cutting isn't even a oak tree. :roll:

If you make quests for willows also than they will get their QP faster so nah, not a good idea. Skillers made their choises, I think they shouldn't suffer because of the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs... :notalk: :wink: :) ok them make them do allthe f2p quests before they can cut yews :roll: offcourse not, skillers can't complete all quests without raising combat. A combat lvl 3 person must be be able and alloud to cut yew logs I think ;)

If you make quests for willows also than they will get their QP faster so nah, not a good idea. Skillers made their choises, I think they shouldn't suffer because of the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs... :notalk: :wink: :)

Well my idea isn't the same, but comes close near: You need to have 10 questpionts and completed the yew logs quest to cut this tree. This way skillers can do whatever they want to (after completing some quests offcourse) while autoÃÆÃâÃâërs wouldn't like the update because they don't want to waste much time on their account, just powerwoodcut (or use other autosoftware offcourse) before they got banned, that's the way they are thinking. This way you slow down autoÃÆÃâÃâërs a bit so they will not be be able to make 100's of accounts at the same time, they first need to complete a few quests one by one on every single account before they are be able to do the things they are not alloud to for a short time. I think the best thing is that there comes out a totally new quest which requires lvl 60 woodcutting (and 10 QP) even before you are be able to start the quest. This way Jagex can allready ban them for autoÃÆÃâÃâïng on normal trees, oaks and willows, so they haven't got any cash at all and only wasted time. This might also work in the memberarea, simply let the green dragonhunters complete a few quests before they are alloud to kill green dragons. Offcourse this is only a way to slow them down a bit and it won't be possible to remove all the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs ingame this way unlike my first idea but whatever, although I shouldn't like this update as well (I don't really like doing quests), I would still appriciate it if loads of the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs are gone or slowed down. Nevertheless I still think it is better to let them pay for every single account because it doesn't only take time for them to let them macro, but that will even cost them cash if they have a bit of bad luck. ;) "Omg I just started a new account, now all the willow trees ingame are full of autosoftware, it's hardly impossible to train to wc lvl 60 now :@" *(You should have liked my first idea, but whatever... There is a place in F2p with loads of willows close near each other without any single autoer at all, go to falador east bank, walk south, just around the wall around falador, then go west, you will see the crafting guild, go another more west and you will find loads of willows together without autoÃÆÃâÃâërs ;) and yes in F2p). The quest might be something like this: requisites before starting the quest: - 10 QP (you can easely get from other quests, every normal player can, also skillers and guys like that) - Wc lvl 60 (they get that while autoÃÆÃâÃâïng on willows, oaks and even normal logs, if they get caught autoÃÆÃâÃâïng on that than they will probably never ever make it till the yew trees) - Having a item good normal players can make that isn't buyeble in shops, like a rune axe for example *this is just a example, it might become a totally other item also, there also isn't sayed that you might lose this item during the quest* (this item will be the evidence they are actually part of the game by trading other persons and not autoÃÆÃâÃâërs who get their axe from "Bob axes" and are just powerautoÃÆÃâÃâïng and nothing else till they got banned. Next to that Jagex will more easy be be able to see who is the "main" from all the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs, because autoÃÆÃâÃâërs won't take time to find a normal player who is selling this item, but they will probably get it from 1 main. So if there exist 100 accounts like auto1, auto2, auto3,4,5,6.....99, auto100 and they all get their rune axe from this main than this main will most likely really be the owner off all the accounts and can get banned also so he doesn't have any advantage out of his actions and the coolest thing is that the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs will automatically show who is their owner this way!!!) Bad points: - AutoÃÆÃâÃâërs can still give it a try by completing these things and go on autoÃÆÃâÃâïng anyway - Some pure wcers will have a little trouble now, they can't powertrain a normal way any more and must now complete a few other things also. - AutoÃÆÃâÃâërs will have higher other skills as woodcutting now and that will make Jagex more doubting or they actually really are autoÃÆÃâÃâërs. Good points: - AutoÃÆÃâÃâërs will get more trouble - There doesn't exist software to complete such a lot quests (most green dragon autoÃÆÃâÃâërs for example also haven't finished dragonslayer for example, unlike normal players), so autoÃÆÃâÃâërs will have to put some time in every single account themself instead of letting software doing the work. - There won't be 100rds of autoÃÆÃâÃâërs from one person started at the same time any more (or those scriptwriters will have a lot of work soon). - The main will be traced more easy. - A update for F2p I hope you can do something with this text, you may have it, I don't care if you claim you tought this out, or if you say that I actually tought it out. I just want that this update will ever come ;) :D

This time you must complete several quests and you must train to lvl 60 wc before you can start the latest quest, if you auto all of them you will probably get banned before you ever could cut yew logs. If you don't auto all of them you can't start 100 accounts at the same time (and yes that does happens that autoÃÆÃâÃâërs have over 100 account at the same times online). It's never claimed that it stops them all, it just slows them down and gives more trouble. :wink: :) *edit: I think that if they completed the quest peoples must get a new "white axe", this axe is worser as black, mithril, addy, rune or dragon, but better as steel, iron, or bronze. This way this is the best axe ingame for peoples who don't want to trade other persons and will be the most logical axe to get for autoÃÆÃâÃâërs, so Jagex can see faster who is autoÃÆÃâÃâër and who is a normal player who will probably try to get the best axe he can get ingame. :wink: :)

Lol, simply not all autoÃÆÃâÃâërs do get banned, they use dropaway accounts some times, they don't even check or they actually got banned, they just leave it behind and never ever use it again!? :roll: :s :( Not everybody has the mad skills and playing time required to get all skills to 70+. It's annoying having missing places on your stat siggy thanks to autoers. Yes :D finally someone who understands me :D Why not?! Are you hurted in any single way or something tnx to this update? :roll: Probably not peoples will get more hurt if this update won't ever come...

A long long time ago my little brother found out a bug, the zero life bug. He was suppost to be dead, but he simply didn't die :P It could easely been done and it worked in F2p !! You don't see that a lot do you ? F2p bugs :P. I told Jagex how it worked and it's impossible to do now, if I show peoples this they say it could been done with glory tele or something, but believe me, this is a f2p account that hasn't ever been member! ;) I'm not going to say how I did it, I just told Jagex and a few p-mods at the time and they solved it.

They probably trained more as one skill or they will be able to go online at least once a month or they don't play at all and will never ever know they are out of highscores and don't forget that if you type their name in the "Search my name"-button you will still see their stats. Btw read my post carefully and you could have readed all this before... :wall:

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New way of highscores: The last few months I notice that normal players can't get in the highscores any more tnx to all those autoÃÆÃâÃâërs :( so I thought out a new idea that can make normal players get back in the highscores again, this is it: Peoples with only one skill in the highscores will only stay in the highscores if they have been online at least once in the last month. Somehow peoples with several skills in the highscores will stay in forever (just like now). Otherwise all old dropaway macroaccounts remain in the highscores while they have only been a part of software a long time ago who is totally forgotten and not used any more. It is allready annoying that they never got banned when they where using autosoftware, but it is another more annoying if they simply stay in the highscores while they don't deserve it! Most of these accounts are accounts from a long list, here a example: a macroowner makes 100 accounts: auto1 auto2 auto3 ...... auto50 auto51 ...... auto97 auto98 auto99 auto100 (the ..... are all the other autonumbers between) and just about all of them got banned and a few accounts are simply forgotten (macroÃÆÃâÃâöwner expected they where banned, but they aren't and remain in highscores, totally not used any more or anything like that). During all the years loads of autoÃÆÃâÃâërs are in the highscores while they don't deserve it, about 95% or even more of them got banned but as you could read Jagex bans about 20.000 autoÃÆÃâÃâërs a week... So that makes 20.000/100*5=1000 accounts who don't deserve it every single week in the highscores. During the years the whole woodcuthighscores is totally ruined by old autoÃÆÃâÃâërs who aren't used any more. "I never come online any more but I still want all my stats in highscores!" Most likely you have trained more as one skill, so things won't change in your case and remain just like now. "But what about my account!? I'm a skiller who only trains woodcutting!" You will remain in highscores because you most likely have been online in the last month "No I haven't been online last month, it's a old skiller that isn't used any more for months, but I still want to remain in the highscores with it!" Go online and log off again and you are back in the highscores again for at least one month (unless you get banned or anything like that offcourse). Bad points: - Innocent peoples who only trained only one skill and haven't been online for at least a month will also get kicked out of the highscores. *(indeed they will but don't forget that these peoples most likely don't play runescape any more (with that account) and it they want to get back in again they only have to be online once a month and are totally back ;), btw if you type their name in the "Search by name"-spot you will still see what stats they have ever had!) - Some autoÃÆÃâÃâërs train several skills *(indeed, if I see things like this: *edit nvm I know fishaa11, fishaa12 and fishaa13 did train their fishing till 51 and their wc till 96 and even higher, but the fishing stats of autoÃÆÃâÃâërs are such high now that normal peoples with fishing 56- also don't come in the highscores any more, but indeed, there do exist autoÃÆÃâÃâërs with more as 1 skill in highscores) Good points: - Loads of normal peoples are back into the highscores again, like they deserve! - This update won't be a update for autoÃÆÃâÃâërs but for the benefits of others, "the others" are still most of us (yet) I think. - Even the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs won't really be hurted, because they did totally forgot their own accounts and don't forget, they go for the cash, not for the stats.