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Gotta love a GOAT. They're awesome cars!

Those new Challengers are pretty sweet, but I'd like to have an original one. Here's a pic of my Dad's '74: (no he doesn't have it anymore :cry:)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. This will no doubt be a new meme if it has not already achieved that status. DOUBLE DREAM HANDS!!

If your judgment of how well a government is doing is if you can walk down the street safely, go to your job, and socialize then I don't know what to tell you. Government tends to make life comfortable for middle class white people because that's who it is run by haha.

Bull [cabbage]. A government does whatever it can to protect its power and its image without upsetting the status quo.

I was not saying that the U.S. government called up the companies and personally told them to stop, I was suggesting that companies like Amazon, PayPal, Mastercard, etc. are nothing but bootlickers. When you have U.S. policy that helps out these companies (credit card companies dealing in Russia comes to mind), they will return the favor when the U.S. government needs it. Such is the case with WikiLeaks. It would be crazy not to think these companies got as big as they did without sleeping around. You choose not to connect the dots. EDIT: This is what I was looking for.

This isn't the first time they've released cables or classified information. Those companies didn't care about it until the U.S. government told them to care.

Clearly this is not the first time that WikiLeaks has released sensitive material and I'm sure that they've broken terms of service many times before without any action taken against them. Those companies just folded because they didn't want to be on the bad side of the U.S. government. Classic case of you rub my back, I'll rub yours.

Game, set, match :P Don't exactly think they're fighting for freedom of information. I think they're just being the morons that 4chan-ers are.

I usually find myself disagreeing with your viewpoints but I love this article :thumbup:

Can I panic yet? Like you, I also had to wait to find out who I was supposed to be afraid of. I was confused at first because I did not feel threatened at all, but once mainstream media told me, I felt a little safer knowing who I was afraid of.

EVERYONE IS A COMMUNIST!!! THEY ARE EVERYWHERE! SPREAD THE FEAR! Whoops...wrong government-defined enemy.

Snoop on Willie.

I accepted the fact that I could die at any moment for pretty much any reason a long time ago. My daily decisions are not designed to prolong my stay here. I do whatever I want to and try to live in the "now" as much as possible. As for why I'm living? Because my body hasn't shut down yet. That's the only one.

Ah yes the Pixies love him and David Lynch haha. I have it on my hard drive but I haven't watched it yet, I'm waiting until Sunday when my roommate gets home to watch a couple with him.

There is far too much corruption in Washington for me to ever trust them to make the right decision. If they can disguise the truth enough to get away with it, they will. It has happened countless times.

That one is on my short-list of Brunuel movies I need to see especially since it's a collaboration with Dali. You should check out his other movies, from what I've read his Mexican movies were some of the best he made. I've only started watching them recently though, so I'm no expert.

Yeah that's good and all, but releasing the information after the events have transpired kind of defeats the purpose of it doesn't it? I want to know what is actively going on so I can form an opinion NOW. Releasing information after things happen removes responsibility from government. If things go well because of their decision: "See, we were right!" If things go badly: "We need to learn from our mistakes". Either situation, they get to do WHATEVER they want to. Granted that is the nature of the democratic system (electing leaders to make decisions for us), but I believe if we elected them, we should at least be granted the decency of knowing what they are doing. I'm willing to compromise if names and the like need to be left out to grant safety to confidential sources or informants, but the rest of the information should be public under all circumstances. That, I will not compromise on. Making all such discussion public would only hurt the government's ability to do its' job. Many of these communications could easily damage international relations and hinder actual dealmaking. I have a sneaking suspicion we will disagree on this, but I don't believe the government's job is to be secretive and withhold information from its people. I know diplomacy is rooted in secrecy and deception but that doesn't make it right.

Yeah that's good and all, but releasing the information after the events have transpired kind of defeats the purpose of it doesn't it? I want to know what is actively going on so I can form an opinion NOW. Releasing information after things happen removes responsibility from government. If things go well because of their decision: "See, we were right!" If things go badly: "We need to learn from our mistakes". Either situation, they get to do WHATEVER they want to. Granted that is the nature of the democratic system (electing leaders to make decisions for us), but I believe if we elected them, we should at least be granted the decency of knowing what they are doing. I'm willing to compromise if names and the like need to be left out to grant safety to confidential sources or informants, but the rest of the information should be public under all circumstances. That, I will not compromise on.

Jesus christ can we please not turn this thread into the efficiency debate? It's fine to discuss the different camps (fun v. efficiency) and their role in the community but I don't really want to read that argument for the eight millionth time...

Hey, we need secrecy, otherwise all the legitimate diplomatic relationships we've formed based on trust with other countries will surely crumble...

Cet obscur objet du désir-1977 I'm starting to become very fond of Bunuel's movies, so it's hard to say this movie wasn't good, but it wasn't amazing like some of his others.

El ángel exterminador-1962 A striking movie you will not quickly forget.

Cancer, AIDS, HIV, and other deadly diseases are our natural predators. We don't need another animal to kill us, our own stupidity in thinking that we can consume anything (even cancerous products) will. As good of a thing finding cures for these diseases would be, it will only contribute to our overpopulation.

If the government of the United States or any other government around the world points fingers at WikiLeaks for endangering lives, it's nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black. And as for the sex crimes? Seems like whenever there is a person wanted by a certain government they dig some dirt to defame them in the public eye. Whether or not those crimes are relevant to the documents doesn't matter. The only thing that does is Julian Assange is now portrayed as a possible rapist or sexual assaulter, something Americans look down upon with great scorn. This is quickly turning into a mud-slinging battle except Assange has much less to lose than anyone. Oh, what a tangled web we weave...