Pan_Nx

Since i'm the only one doing such a thing, yes ma'am. But in all seriousness, you need to come back to clan staff. Things around here were at least respectable around here with you. Really, you all are just shooting yourselves in the foot. Just realize your sucking at doing your job and start putting out updates and pulling clans back here. Just with you all and your annoying responses in this thread you've already turned off two tipit clans that are at least showing interest. Drop your pride, i had to suck up to some of the most pathetic clans to get some clans on tip's side back a few years ago.

I believe you're aware as former staff that we are more lenient in this section than the other parts of the forum. Personally you should know no really foul or offensive words bother me, but it was a compromise for off topic/general and thats what that rule will be enforced in. As far as mods coming in here saying hide tag - won't happen, they know better than to come into this section without permission. Hell admins ask me for it. I doubt Joe or Yguy will go anal looking for pictures with 4 letter words in them, they are far too overworked. The rules for this section are vastly different than general - or have you forgotten? The order of event's are what 2 or 3 years old? Either way, I had posted a thread in the admin board stating I planned to fire you shortly before you resigned. it's sorta irrelevant to the actual topic. You would need one for Spanish for her, which has served us well in multiple misunderstandings in war declarations. Her English has improved and continues to do so - her passion, desire to work (thats hard to find, i think almost every ex clan staff can agree there), and thirst to see tip.it succeed are all where they should be. If you can build a case for any of my staff being biased, or doing something negative - i'll listen and investigate, i've done it numerous times and people like Gamerr, Kimberly etc can confirm that - but harping on them because they are not as fluent in their secondary language as you are in your first is pretty weak, and pretty lame. The times I took the full blame for what you did as a mod mistake wise were many, hell I spent some hours ironing out things with various users you offended and i'd do the same for any mod. You were sorta wreckless and it showed. Let's not dig up 3-4 year old staff posts in a [bleep] measuring contest to see who is right or wrong here. It doesn't really serve the purpose of the thread, my point was made, you got it, lets move on. I'm defending someone being personally attacked, i'd do it if it's user or staff. bs is bs and i try to prevent it from ongoing when i can Of all people you know change does take time to do - it never came overnight here on any staff and thats because we want to do things right, and think things through instead of half assing them. I'll concede we've been slower than normal. Way to return a reply with nothing but insults then tell me i can't respond to those insults. :thumbup: If you don't know who I am you don't know the tipit cd community very well. Not that i'm saying i'm some important god you should know, but if you don't know some of the more impactful members in a community, how do you lead that. Again, not just saying that for me, if you didn't know people such as Killerred, Dbzruler, Danda, etc. I'd still argue the same thing. So anyways, if i seem mad, then you seem unqualified. In the instance i believe that is being referred to, a large mass of a single clan was removed from the board. Do you really expect an entire clan to return and ask for forgiveness? Ironically enough, this is what dethroned tipit way back when. A clan isn't going to come back after being told to leave, the moderating team should have set down with the clan and worked it out with them.

Your right, there's never been a generation admin wise that's looked out for the clanning community. But I mean, lets look at the most recent update from the admin staff. Requiring users to hide runescape pictures with profanity in them? Is that a joke? Like what are you thinking. Not like it's a ridiculous update without the clan community, but try intergrating updates like that with the clan community. Good luck. I posted a resignation in the CIC and then you all "kicked me" for basically saying I was done being a mod here. And I think several CIC members could back me up on this one. Cool, it's a shame we are on a english runescape board though and not in Asia looking to hiring a translator. You've got a point. But then again, my purpose at tipit isn't to attack someone, which was often the case when i was a mod. She also has higher ups backing her, i had tipit admins harping me for the dumbest things. There's a difference between interest and actually doing something. I see the interest, but i don't see the action. So i couldn't really care.

I agree with you when you say that Tip It Clan Seccion is being a little incative, specially the CD & Conclave Forums. I trully love to see that you are interested in doing something to improve the activity here by making this suggestions. I don't agree when you say that having a negative attitude will help us to improve, I prefer to say that we have to be realistic rather than negative. Anyway, I think that admiting that a 2 page topic is not a large topic wont take us anyway. I agree with this suggestion too. When I'm in #clans I'm always available to chat and I'd love to do it. Every time I log in I say "hi" (my parents taught me to be polite and greet everytime arrive to a place) and just one or two (sometimes nobody) answer. If you hl me, I will always answer. Don't wait to be welcomed when you log in, say "hi" and i'll answer :) This ranking is updated (you can see the date of the last update there), but the clans taking part of it are being really lazy and they are not setting up fights as they have to. Because of that, we (the staff) had sent to each Clan Leader a pm reminding them that they have to be active and challenge another clan in less than a month (as the rules of TWR says) or they will be removed from the ranking. We are waiting to see what happens and we will take action as soon as the month period ends. As you can see, we were a step ahead of you on that one ;) but the suggestion was good. We (all the staff, including us the CL's) work a lot behing the scenes doing things that you even notice. We are concerned too about the lack of activity and we are working out the way to bring a new breeze to this boards. I'm am trully thankfull for taking the time to write this topic and make all this valid suggestions and thanks to all the ones that not only criticize the site but also bring new ideas and suggestions to improve it! :) Laura. p/s: mind my bad english! :blink: You can't speak English and you sound like a kindergarten teacher. Are you sure you weren't supposed to be assigned to RS Gen or Blogscape, or something? Dan bro your wasting your time. Tipit's current generation of admins and mods just isn't made to produce a clan section.

Best of luck

And again, if you were around you'd see that there's activity there. But this time is different than your time--worlds apart. You can't compare them. Stop holding them to your own twisted standard of yourself as a staff member; it was drastically skewed and overinflated. Seriously, take a deep breath. I'm not hear to get a ego boost or anything from this place, never have been. My time? What are you talking about. It wasn't just the staff I was in, the staff after me was just fine and did a decent job. They held tipit to a high level of quality, you may even been in that staff, I can't remember. And i've said that in a previous post in this thread. But no, activity's not here, there or anywhere in this section (like it had been), hasn't been for months now. Your acting like i've been dead for the past 5 years. I've been leading a runescape clan this whole time, warring or not, it makes me aware of the clan community. Just months ago I viewed this section daily (when I was in warring clans), and since then it's been on a weekly basis. But besides, i'm not sure why you are just throwing sand here. The timeline of Pan's clanning isn't important here and I don't think anyone in this thread really cares to know about my history. Well except for you, apparently.

Because you don't. You said it yourself you weren't around, weren't active (for at least a year now, be honest). Half of the points you had brought up have already been answered, if you could bother to rouse yourself and look. If you intend to preach, you had best have a more sturdy foundation than a dusty and dubious history and no current knowledge of the community you're lecturing to, no knowledge of what tipit has even tried to do. No knowledge of what's even going on outside of Tip.it. Take a moment, get to know what you claim you once invested so much time and love into in order to learn what it has truly happened, both in accomplishments and plans that didn't work, since your departure. It'll be a step in the right direction instead of talking with rose tinted glasses on pulling facts out of your backside. This thread isn't a personal soapbox for a wounded pride. I really didn't raise too many points in my post, you're just like going on your own little rage or something. I had one point: Inactive staff. And when i said "inactive staff" i mean they aren't meeting the demands. There could be two different wrongs in a staff; 1] they just suck and make terrible decisions or 2] they aren't active enough to meet the goal. I'm going with #2 for our staff here. Hmm... so what's that word for not being active enough? Oh yeah.. that'd be inactive.

It's always easy to take potshots at the staff, but in reality the staff here is active and are around every day. What makes them seem inactive is that there is literally nothing to do from a moderation standpoint on the forums. It doesn't take long to sift through 3 or 4 war declarations and 3 or 4 war topic posts. I was a CL here for about a year and a half and visited the forums daily; although I would probably be considered 'inactive' by your standards because I didn't post on every war topic and declaration topic. Fact is, no one, and that includes staff and posters alike, would post on any thread of any sort. A big response to a thread might have 15 or 20 replies, most had less than 10. You can blame the leadership, but you also need to look in the mirror as well. Without activity for us to act on, there is precious little we can do. The TWR is like a great restaurant that no one knows about. It could make the best food in the world and it wouldn't matter because no one would be there to eat it. Right now, there are just not enough small-to-medium level clans that care about a ranking ladder. I believe it is because most of the small-to-medium sized clans have fallen into a pit of inactivity brought on by the closure of the wilderness. At first, clans with 25-75 members were still active. Clan wars was new and exciting, and BH was still an unknown entity. That's when the TWR was really rocking. We had 30+ clans, and the #1 clan always had 3.000+ points. I was in a TWR clan then, and we obtained #1 by fighitng 4+ times weekly. But Runescape clanning lives and dies by fighting. It is really the only sustaining reason for combat-oriented clans. As those small and midsized clans grew tired of clan wars and ventured out into PVP and BH worlds, they quickly found out that they absolutely could not compete with the top clans that controlled the 5 or 6 available warring worlds. So, they pretty much died. The clan I was in (The Death Monkeighs) went from a 300+ person clan that could occasionally pull max opts in 2007 to today being a 44-person clan that no longer wars at all. I could probably name 30 small and midsized clans that were our immediate competition that either are on life support or no longer exist. I guess that's kind of a long way of saying that it's not the leadership's fault that there are no TWR clans that care to be active. But there still may be hope for the TWR. Of course everyone knows that with the return of ulimited wilderness will also give opportunity for the rebirth of small clans. Skillers and level 3 looters will once again roam the wildy for loot and clues. Small teams will form to take advantage of the solo players. Small clans will form to take advantage of the small teams. And so on and so forth. Will these clans also care about the TWR? It remains to be seen, but the future is a hell of a lot brighter than it has been in the past for it. Those on the Clan Staff already know that I've pushed hard for the TWR to recruit more active and more 'name' clans to the TWR, and also to make PVP default for TWR fights. I highlight it because I believe now more than ever is an opportunity for clans to enter and care about the TWR. Clan Wars would be open if both clans agreed on it, but the majority of the fights should be PVP. Since we'll basically have countless open worlds for PVP fights, crashing will no longer be an excuse. If there was ever a time to do this, it is now. It's unlikely that clans like RSD, TT, VR, DF, ROT, etc. will ever join the TWR, simply because they don't need to, nor would you really want them to. Having 100 Titans show up for a full-out against Clan X that would pull 15 level 90's would be a waste of their time and demoralizing for the small clan. But the opportuinty to gain smaller clans with high averages and larger clans with lower averages is there. Just a quick glance over the posting clans on RSC shows clans that would fit this mold (taken from ggohans77's Top 10 clan post) : Lithuanian Forces Crimson Raiders Pure Hatred Wilderland Lithunian PKing Team Hell Army The Neggas Clan Exodus Massive Metal Attack The Moon Clan Envy Downfall The Call of Legends Australian Army Dragonwood Collision Forsaken The Gladiatorz Runite Knights of Finland Poison Ascension Perception THE Clan The Knights of Order Lux Aeterna Solar Angels Resurrected Forces The Viet Clan Dark Dragon Breath Blacknights Obviously some of these clans are already in TWR, but none are particularly active. And nor could you get all of these clans, but getting 5 or 10 in addition to the clans you already have would be a decent start. Of course doing all this would mean re-vamping the TWR, and would also mean alienating some of the clans who have been around before the transition. But really it boils down to what the staff and posters of Tip.it really want. But unless people are willing to step up and say what they want, it is unlikely that anything will change. Your telling one of the creators of TWR that they don't know what they're talking about. Someone who was staff before you were active on tipit CD. Someone whos put a ton more time into this section than you have. Not trying to brag but just saying, don't be so quick to assume. And no, activity isn't about posting on every war topic, i could care less if they did or not. Activity is about posting on every suggestion topic (aka this one), fufilling promises, giving updates, coming up with new ways to boost the community. None of that's happening and the current CD systems are weak atm, so yea, i'm sticking to inactive staff on this one.

Last night right after she told me. Gave her a time frame of a few days. Good point, something I haven't thought of too much yet. Nah never met the guy. Thanks to the three of you, the advice/reassurance definitely helps.

Got a situation that I'd like opinions on. So I've been talking to this girl pretty seriously over the last half a year or so, basically dating. About 3 months i saw her texting another guy and stuff on multiple occasions, I asked about it and she said they are best friends. So I was like alright then. But just last night we were talking and she admitted to me that she lied about this guy and she likes him a lot. But she was telling me that she wasnt sure what she wanted as she liked me a lot as well. My response was basically pick one or the other soon or I'm out. But it's really not what I want to do as I like her a ton. But I think it may be best if i call it if she doesn't decide soon. Am I right on this? Or in what ways could I avoid going to these measures? Any advice in general, related to my questions or not, would be helpful.

Haven't been the most active around here, but i've swept through every so often. And nor have i read the comments on this thread. But I think the major problem is a dead staff here. If you want to be the "best clan forums" in the runescape circle, you need to have the best clan staff. Tipit's had the best clan staff at times (not pointing at the clan staff i was in, but also the immediate clan staffs before and after me), but right now this clan staff looks dead and as effective as runevillage's. Its pretty safe to say the less intelligent zybez clan staff is yet still on another level then the one here at tip it now. What happened to clan tournaments? What happened to #clans being active? What happened to the clan memberlist system? This community can't have the tight knit tipit community that anyone is looking for without energy pushing it. And there's really no energy pushing anything here. Its a shame, potential is just laying on the shelfs.

...and in real life. :wink: Interesting topic, enjoyed it.

Feel you on this, but on a larger scale. A month ago there were two sonics ~5 mins from my house. And now the closest is an hour away. :thumbdown:

grats & happy bday

Very understandable but also very sad. Awesome clan and bunch of people, shame things couldn't work out. Thanks for the good times. RIP to the last "tipit original". <3:

Jessica Alba :thumbup:

403,487 Even I got more exp than him Not only did i earn a shocking 400k exp but I also broke a impressive streak of not logging in for 33 days before the competition. Though I will admit I spent the 33 days training for this epic competition. Doing intense hand and eye exercises, so that I would be insuring that each click and minute spent went to great use.

Don't war :thumbup:

Heard you hack runescape on a frequent basis and steal credit card numbers.

Haven't been around for a while, but it's nice to see your numbers back up again. Gj on the win.

Doing what i would never support in bringing in two outsiders to join the staff in mid-flow of a clan. Definitely worked out better then I had imagined. Not saying it's worth the risk though, because it's not. But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

too many idiots in the clan world really. The clan world in general is ok though. And no blame for anything towards jagex, RSB needs to flourish and there's not much they can do for offsite clans. The more RSB advances they will eventually start to compete and when they do, they'll move towards offsite approaches so they can actually compete with top clans. Which, in return, advances the clan world.

used to have vent, just use skype now tho.

I'm usually sad to see a group go, but lnd was pretty disgraceful to the "team clan world". Guess this marks a victory for the face of teams and a defeat to powerhungry rejects. Later LND.

Great updates, keep it up staff.