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Finishing up Somewhere In Time by Iron maiden. (The album, not song).

If someone links me to some good materials for C4D I can try my hand at making a few quick 3D renders. They are actually really easy, I'm just lazy as [bleep].

9800's are a waste of money. @OP : what games do you want to play? :S If you have 2 of them, they're the best. No they aren't. 2x GTX280's, 2x HD4870's and (maybe) 2x HD4850's would all perform better. And once the HD4870x2's are out soon they'll wipe the floor with 9800GX2's.

Hehe, he couldn't even do that if he wanted to. Oh and guys WoW is the only good MMO other MMOs suck and will fail

Not unless you're more of a PvE person, in which WoW LoTRO or Vanguard could probably be fun. For PvPers though it's all about waiting for WAR :).

[hide=]Batman knew that what the world needed right then was a hero with a name, and a face. He made it seem as if he was the 'bad person' and Harvey Dent the hero, even though Batman was the hero[/hide]

Do we read the same sites? Everywhere I go (mmorpg.com, massively.com) people are ecstatic for WAR. Like, are there any links to (non trolls) that explain their dislike of the game? The NDA should be dropping sometime this week now, I can't wait for all the information.

What MMO's have you enjoyed? Most of them these days are either a grind or general "kill x" quests or "find y" or take "a to b" kind of things. WAR will be changing it up a bit with public quests, but also with the ability to gain XP through RvR.

I think jumpgate is f2p. In all honesty though I've never played it, I only know it has you playing in a ship.

I would have to contend that Pink Floyd only became 'Pink Floyd' as people know them after (and arguably because of) Syd's departure. Of course I love Piper at the Gates of Dawn and the like, but I have to consider them as something other than Pink Floyd. That is true, there is certainly a lot more material people know without Syd then with him.

Yes, Disturbed got killed because more people heard them, what? They wern't even that good to begin with. Off the top of my head I'll just say Mayhem, after Dead shot him self. Oh and Pink Floyd after Syd left, but they were still better then most bands afterwards -- just didn't have the same feel.

Damn it, I was sooo close to making a smartass comment. Anyway On-Topic: I was too lazy to read through them all, which are browser-based? None on the list. There are no good browser based MMORPG's.

Amazed people actually like Carlo's mencia. Jim Gaf[bleep]in, Dave Chappelle and Steven Colbert are my favorites.

9800's are a waste of money. @OP : what games do you want to play? :S

I put "f2p" because there are private servers out for WoW, not for the trial.

Go for it man. I'll probably edit some of the p2p games with a review when I get the chance.

So judging from some recent threads there has been some interest in MMORPG's. Because of this I figured, well, I may as well make a thread giving my opinion on all of the MMORPG's I've taken a part of. Hopefully this will help those looking for an MMO to play (p2p and f2p!). If this thread ever gets "big" just Ctrl+F and search f2p or p2p. The LIST: 9Dragons f2p http://9dragons.acclaim.com/ [hide=]9Dragons is a typical korean grind game. I played it on release for a couple of days and, well, there are lot better out there. Perhaps it is better now and it's made by Aclaim so it may be of interest to you.[/hide] Age of Conan p2p http://www.ageofconan.com [hide=]Oh, the infamous age of conan. Age of Conan had promise and, well, it still may. The problem is that Funcom is a company that does nothing but lie and hype without ever actually giving. Age of Conan was one of the most hyped up MMORPGs of all time (next to World of Warcraft) and it fell on its face harder then anyone. I really would not recommend this game to anyone, ever, for numerous reasons. I could rant for ages about this game but in all honesty I'd rather not. If you read the last few pages of the AoC thread you'll get what I mean.[/hide] Anarchy Online f2p + p2p http://www.Anarchyonline.com [hide=]Anarchy Online is Funcom's good game. The thing is is that, unlike age of conan, anarchy online has a good director at its head and it also has the benifit of being 7 years old. The game is f2p for the most part, however somewhat like Runescape you can pay a monthly fee to get the games "expansion packs". I would recommend this to anyone really, although I would also warn of players to be wary of the games future. Funcom is taking away a lot of staff from AO and bringing them to AoC. The other problem is that Funcoms stock is dropping rapidly, and I really think that they may be in serious financial problems in a few months. Back to the game though, it is very much a grind game. The game is split into classes and then each class has tons of skills they can level each time they gain a level. The gear in this game is great, and 'twinking' characters is some of the most fun I've ever had. However its a difficult game to get into. Still worth a shot for those interested, the games art direction is incredible.[/hide] City of Heroes / Villains p2p http://www.cityofheroes.com/ [hide=]City of Heroes / Villains is a superhero game, in which you can choose to be a super hero or a super villain. It features, no joke, one of the best character customization systems there is and allows you to really (graphically) create any looking super hero/villain you want. While I wouldn't recommend this game to hardcore players it is an awesome game for casual players. I would also, possibly, recommend the 14 day trial for those who are just looking to pass the time until some other MMORPGs. The combat system is a little slow, but isn't bad. I haven't gotten to far in the game though (only lvl 9 out of 50)[/hide] Dark Age of Camelot p2p http://www.darkageofcamelot.com/ [hide=]This is Mythic's first adventure into MMORPG's, and was the first RvR game ever made. While these days servers are pretty dead (950 players or so on each server) it still may be worth at least a shot at the 14 day trial for those who are interested. It is very much an old game, However, so be warned.[/hide] EVE Online p2p http://www.eveonline.com/ [hide=]EVE Online is a unique game in a sea of clones. Unlike other games pretty much all of your time is spent inside of your ship, doing about anything you want. Unlike other games you build up skills in real time -- which means you 'level up' while offline as well as online. Because of this you can do whatever you want. While the game probably won't satisfy those of us (like me) who like a lot of action it is one of the best hardcore PvP games out there. I think that a lot of ex-runescape players who are looking for a game that has a lot more options to do may be interested in EVE, however. The other good thing is the update the game a lot with free expansions, and all of the games playerbase is on one server which gets up to a 15k-20k player load at once a lot at peak times[/hide] EverQuest II p2p http://www.everquest2.com [hide=]Everquest II can best be described as a more mature World of Warcraft. While certainly with the latest updates it has gotten easier for new players it still is generally a more difficult game to play, but also more in depth. The game has had a lot of time to mature over the years, and with their "living legacy" promotion they have seem to brought back players. The only thing I would advise is that if you enjoy PvP to stay away. At least when I played PvP was very much just a tacked on feature. However if you enjoy PvE and especially crafting Everquest II may be right up your ally![/hide] Guild Wars "f2p" http://www.guildwars.com/ [hide=]Guild Wars is always a good option for something to play while waiting for other games. The campaigns in all of the games (I haven't played Nightfall) are excellent and are usually challenging. Even better is that, with henchmen, you can easily solo them. The game can have some fun PvP. Some of my fond PvP memories in Guild Wars involve me and the group of my friends trying out the strangest builds one could think up of and trying them out. I can't talk about recent updates, but it is always fun if you have a good group. I can't stress that last part enough though, Guild Wars easily has one of the worst in game communities I have ever been in. The majority of the playerbase are little kids who's parents wouldn't buy them World of Warcraft, and the other bit of them (for the most part) are arrogant PvPers that won't let you in their guild / group unless you have a rank 4 (or w/e) rank. Because of this when my guild broke up I was stuck having to do PvP with the worst players I have ever seen, yet I couldn't get into a good group despite being (I'd like to think so) a good PvPer.[/hide] HellGate London "f2p" http://www.hellgatelondon.com/ [hide=]It may be worth checking out now. At launch it was buggy, laggy and just unfinished due to the studio just not having enough money. However they actually broke up and the game is under another studio now and I've heard at least the lag issues have been fixed. I wouldn't expect much in it but it's a one time buy, and I think that the game is fully f2p (no p2p content) now, although I could be wrong. It's very Diablo-ish[/hide] Hero Online f2p http://hero.netgame.com/ [hide=]It was actually kind of a fun little grind game, it seems to be really fast paced when I tried it out. Not sure how much has been added to it, but always worth a try[/hide] Lineage II p2p + f2p http://www.lineage2.com [hide=]Lineage II is the MMO that really got me into MMORPG's. Sure, runescape may have been my 'first' but Lineage II was my first good one. Lineage II is very PvP oriented, and revolves around guild vs guild relations. Now, the reason why I put p2p and f2p up is simple -- Lineage II is very famous for it's private server's. While I can't post them here (I think) just google 'top MMORPG private servers' and you should be able to find them. Most of my time playing the game had been on those, and for the most part aside from lagging a chronicle (expansion) behind they are fairly stable. The PvP is some of the best out of any game I've ever played, thats for sure. P2P wise the game is still good -- although a grind. The good news is that the new Lineage II expansion (all expansions are free) will be reducing the grind a lot, allowing a player to probably hit level 60 (~80 cap) in around a month of playing (not /played). Because of this, and the idea that I think they are launching a new server, it may be worth checking out[/hide] MU Online p2p + f2p http://globalmuonline.gamersfirst.com/index.php [hide=]MU Online uses a top down perspective like in diablo. The game is actually p2p (f2p up to level 70 on retail) but in all honesty I doubt most will ever get up to the point where they have to start paying. It's really a big grind and I have no idea what is up with it these days. The game does have a lot of private servers though, I'd check them out if you play.[/hide] Ryzom ? [hide=]Ryzom online is hinted at making a comeback, so I'll edit this space when more info is available.[/hide] Shadowbane f2p http://www.shadowbane.com/ [hide=]Shadowbane is an f2p game now, and is very pvp centric. The problem is that not many people play any more -- but also that the controls are very out dated. It's always worth a try, but I didn't like it.[/hide] Silkroad Online f2p http://www.silkroadonline.net/ [hide=]Silkroad is probably your best bet if you're looking for a standard Korean grind f2p MMORPG. At 20 people are split up into factions (merchants, theives, hunters) which I believe PvP against each other. I played it up to level 18 or 19 or so and the game is quite a grind. That was over a year ago though, so it may have been changed Review by penguingeek3: I should probably say it at the beginning...This is my favorite free MMORPG of all time. Reasons included later. Read on. SRO is based on the period of history in which the Silkroad (Surprise, surprise) flourished. However, it has some fantasy as well. It's Korean made, and F2P, so as you would guess...It's a grind. A while ago, there were a ton of bots, but Joymax has cracked down on nearly all of them. (Last time I checked, at least) Most of the servers are now pretty easy to get into, though most of the beginner training spots are crowded with bots trying to start new accounts. There are two types of characters in SRO, Chinese and European. Chinese characters are based on solo play, with nearly all characters being able to fight adeptly, as well as heal themselves, but most importantly, use healing potions with no recharge time. Nearly all bots are Chinese due to this. Chinese characters choose from three weapon masteries (But five weapons, sword, blade, spear, glavie and bow) and three (Technically four) magical masteries (Cold, fire, lightning, force). It's a mix-and-match thing, so it's not as if you're forced to choose one of each. Characters can actually choose more than two masteries, or take two magical ones or something. European characters are party based, and choose from six classes - warrior, rogue, wizard, warlock, cleric and bard. Once again, it's a mix-and-match, and most people choose one primary class and one secondary class. Still, European characters must work together (At higher levels, at least) in order to succeed. Both types of characters receive 3 stat points when they level up, and these points can be put into strength or intelligence. Strength boosts physical strength and defense, while intelligence does the same, but with magic. Characters level up their masteries and gain skills by using skill points. Skill points are received from killing monsters, so you will accumulate them over time. However, even with SP farming (Which is too complicated to explain here), it's likely you won't have enough skill points to get everything you want. Quests are what you'd expect in a grind, "kill x of y" or something along those lines. They give pretty good XP though. PvP is divided into three parts. Job PvP, cape PvP, and fortress wars. Job PvP starts at level 20, when you choose either merchant, hunter or thief. You can change at any time, and it isn't a full-time thing. Merchants travel from city to city with caravans and goods, making money. Hunters protect the merchants from monsters along the way, but mainly thieves. (So thieves attack the merchants and hunters, and try to steal the goods) Large job wars can erupt, and one of the most enjoyable parts of the game is going on a caravan (Or thieving raid) with a group of friends. Cape PvP is terrible, once you put on a cape, you can kill other players with capes on...And you get nothing if you do so. I'm not entirely sure about fortress wars, as you only participate in them if you're a pretty high level. They're basically fights between guilds over fortresses. I'd consider SRO to be more of a PvE game than PvP. Along with the normal leveling grind, there are unique monsters, which are a great challenge (They spawn every few hours, and spawn a lot of other monsters with them), as well as dungeons. I'm still not exactly sure why I like SRO so much, it just has an addicting quality to me. The variations you can have with builds are pretty incredible, there are a ton of possibilities. I guess it's also because my friends played, MMORPGs tend to be much more fun if you play with other people. The community is pretty good, other than the bots and the people that spam in Turkish. When I do play, it's on the server Neptune. Worth it? Yes.[/hide] Tabula Rasa p2p http://www.playtr.com/ [hide=]It's a pretty unique game, and an MMOFPS at that. I wouldn't really recommend it solo but in a group it can be a fun game. I would try out the 7 day trial[/hide] Ultima Online p2p + f2p http://www.uo.com/ [hide=]I can't say it is worth playing now on p2p servers, although there is no doubt people still there. Ultima Online has some very thriving private server communities however -- so it is very worth your time to check them out. The game was one of the first hardcore PvP MMORPG's and any PvPer owes themself to try it.[/hide] Warhammer Online BETA, release SEPT 18 http://www.warhammeronline.com [hide=]Game is currently in beta, and should be in open beta in a couple of weeks. I'm not in the beta myself but there is a lot of good information about the game on their website, I would recommend checking out the podcasts. Warhammer is going to be the PvP MMORPG (it's RvR) if Mythic pulls it off. I really am putting my faith in Mythic, and I think they can do it[/hide] World of Warcraft p2p + f2p http://www.worldofwarcraft.com [hide=]Nothing more can be said about this game, I would just look at the huge WoW thread if you're curious about the game. it does have private servers as well, but most of them are very buggy and I would really recommend playing the p2p game over private servers.[/hide] And that should be it. I did leave out runescape on purpose, obviously. Feel free to ask me about any of the MMO's on the list -- although for some I may not know an answer to. I should also say that I haven't had a chance to play LoTRO or Vanguard, but I would recommend them for those looking for a PvE game.

Aw, oh well. It's not like I need that many NDS games on at once. :P

GiantBomb, MMORPG.com (MMO's only but still), Joystiq, DSFanboy, Massively Ok some are for specific system/games but whatever.

See, I thought I read that there were a few 4GB non SDHC cards out there, maybe I'm wrong. :P edit: [bleep]ing sweet, playing mario Paint using the touch screen. :thumbsup:

Newest edition to my NDS, 800 SNES roms :) Does anyone know of any 4GB MicroSD (non SDHC) cards that work with an R4DS? I want to get one but not sure which work.

My point has been proven Even better when you read This thread along side of it.

Go ahead, try Age of Conan. *Snicker*

But, it isn't. :iama[bleep]:

You could try out Summoning, Langzor.