Obtaurian

Slayer is a good way to train ALL combat skills while making a little money. BTW, you wont see any real profit from slayer before 83.

That setup will work just fine. I highly recommend getting barrows gloves and a warrior ring (berserker if you can afford it) as soon as possible.

I'll assume that you're joking, because any sensible person would have ascertained that one's join date has no relation to their knowledge of Runescape. And skills do because? I knew you've been playing since before your reg date, that was the point. They don't necessarily, but the LACK of skills is indication of lack of experience. Your point literally makes no sense. Feel free to elaborate. As opposed to "OMG I NEED THE WORST GEAR"? As opposed to gear that doesn't suck and gets the job done perfectly well. Rune doesn't suck and gets the job done perfectly well. Prove me wrong. Oh, wait . . . Best melee armor in the game.* Less defense bonuses than barrows. No healing capabilities of guthans. LOL. Higher ranged defense, strength, and prayer than barrows, and those are the bonuses that matter (that and magic defense, which neither armor has). When you're a high level player, defense matters very little in most situations. No one uses Guthan's for healing anymore. I agree with you, but I assume that people who ask for advice want the best advice, so I give them the best advice (or none if I don't know the answer). If the OP didn't want good advice, he should've clarified in his post (but that's neither here nor there, as the OP was receptive to those who gave him good advice). "Best" is subjective, By "best" advice, I mean the most efficient advice. I'm not a therapist; it is not my job to listen to a poster's feelings in order to discern his playing type so that I can tailor-make my advice just for him/her. I will tell you that rushing is the fastest way to gain dungeoneering experience, even if that's not what you want to hear. Sorry. if you value a 13M ammy over other things 13M can get you, then fine go for it. We've been over this. But there are people who don't need a fury, even if it's the best ammy in the game. "There are people who don't need armor, even though it's useful." See what I did there? It's more the fact that you have ZERO firsthand experience with any serious combat and the fact that you're arguing with a whole host of players who have many times as much combat experience as you. It has nothing to do with 99s and grinding, so don't pull the "JUS CUS U NOLIFED U TINK YUR COOL" argument. As an aside, I've been playing longer than you if you started just after RS2 came out. You seem to be implying that you've been playing longer than me (which is completely irrelevant, but I'll humor you), so I thought I'd quash that little idea of yours now. I wasn't saying you no lifed, I've probably played a comparable amount to your time played, I just don't find it fun to grind skills and have no desire to get a 99. You seem to be quite the hostile person over a silly thing like an amulet I get hostile when people like you try to spread misinformation intentionally (I'm no longer assuming it's out of ignorance, as you seem quite intent on making your point). Responses in bold. You should know before constructing your rebuttal that an amulet of fury is irrefutably and undeniably better than a glory, and that 15m is easy to make REGARDLESS of your levels. As Bladewing mentioned earlier, it can also be sold back for minimal loss (but a lot of time saved). It is one of the first elite tier items that any player should invest in.

Yeah, I use my wrench habitually. Never leave home without it, even if I don't necessarily need it.

I can. I'll assume that you're joking, because any sensible person would have ascertained that one's join date has no relation to their knowledge of Runescape. Guess what? I have a fury AND a better teleport than a glory! I value efficiency over stupidity. As opposed to "OMG I NEED THE WORST GEAR"? Best melee armor in the game.* You really don't see why? Well, I suppose you DO have mediocre stats and little to no experience MHing, so that's understandable. Skillers giving people combat advice . . . Lol. I agree with you, but I assume that people who ask for advice want the best advice, so I give them the best advice (or none if I don't know the answer). If the OP didn't want good advice, he should've clarified in his post (but that's neither here nor there, as the OP was receptive to those who gave him good advice). The fact that you're arguing with me right now is making me assume even harder. I don't believe you. If you really did have enough money to buy the best gear, you'd be singing a very different tune, hence why I don't believe you. You value lesser teleports, gotcha. It's more the fact that you have ZERO firsthand experience with any serious combat and the fact that you're arguing with a whole host of players who have many times as much combat experience as you. It has nothing to do with 99s and grinding, so don't pull the "JUS CUS U NOLIFED U TINK YUR COOL" argument. As an aside, I've been playing longer than you if you started just after RS2 came out. You seem to be implying that you've been playing longer than me (which is completely irrelevant, but I'll humor you), so I thought I'd quash that little idea of yours now. EDIT: Fury is much better than an amulet of ranging due to its prayer bonus. Ranged can achieve very high accuracy bonuses as it is, so an extra +5 wont do much (conversely, +5 magic accuracy is very valuable).

Interesting. You should start an IRL economics thread in off-topic, as it would probably be more relevant there. As it stands, however, we're talking about Runescape, and in Runescape, an amulet of fury is much better than an amulet of glory and is almost as useful as barrows gloves for everyday 'scaping. I wouldn't pay 100m for one extra strength bonus, actually (unless I had more important commodities already). I would, however, pay 15m for an extra +2 strength and prayer bonus.

[hide] I doubt a +2 strength/prayer bonus would have any noticeable effect, let alone 10m+ worth of an effect. My defense is enough that I rarely need to bank for food when training slayer/combat, so while it's not in the "elite" level necessarily, it's enough to give me a lot of protection. Due to your stats, I wont fault you for not knowing what you're talking about. Same can be said for you, really Sorry, buddy, but I don't have low combat stats. I was more talking about the part 'you don't know what you're talking about'. Defense stats of a fury are worthless, you really don't need them. The +2 str bonus (compared to glory) can be handy but I'm pretty sure you won't even save 5 minutes a task with that bonus. The extra prayer bonus, on the other hand, IS useful, but only if you piety all the time. This prayer bonus is the only main benefit of a fury over a glory but one may consider getting a stole instead of a fury if he's using piety all the time. [/hide] What? I used piety (and later turmoil) on every task from 90-99 slayer, so I spent a lot of time working out setups and trying to be as efficient and fast as possible. Only an idiot (and I truly mean this) would use a stole while using piety or turmoil on task, as you get more than enough prayer from your other gear (including your AMULET OF FURY). Some players do not care whatsoever about efficiency, and that's okay, but those players (EG: you) should not be giving advice to other players. An amulet of fury is superior to an amulet of glory in every way with the exception of accuracy bonuses. It is one of the first "elite tier" items you should buy, but I agree with other posters that the OP should get a bunyip and piety before he considers a fury (which he's already stated he's going to do). Do you need a fury? No. Do you need a chaotic rapier? No. Do you need a berserker ring? No. Do you need dragon claws? No. Do you need a soul wars/fire/ardougne 3 cape? No. Do you need dragon boots? No. Do you need a full slayer helm when slaying? No. Do you need barrows gloves? No. WE CAN JUS USE ROON N RUNE SCIM 4 EVERYTING AMIRITE@@@@ The thing is, some people ask for advice expecting decent advice, and people telling him NOT to get an item that will ALWAYS be useful for the entirety of his Runescape career (until a better necklace is released, which is unlikely any time soon) is irresponsible and very uninformed. I'm glad the OP didn't listen to everyone who tried to talk him out of getting an incredibly useful, staple item.

There are a lot of decent guides, but you'll have to melee like I did. It just takes a lot of practice runs. Definitely get those capes, though.

It'll do, but I highly recommend that you get a better cape as soon as possible. Because you're getting close to 80 dungeoneering, another option is to get an Ardougne cape 3 and use it with a chaotic rapier.

Masses are more for fun than profit, and a small team of people with maxed combat can usually crash most masses, so be weary. Bandos or Armadyl would be the best for masses.

My recommendations for piety/turmoil setups are, from worst to best: Proselyte plate Verac's skirt Fire cape Fighter torso Verac's skirt Soul wars cape Bandos chestplate Verac's skirt Soul wars cape Full Bandos Soul wars cape The second one is great if you already have a torso but can't afford a BCP for whatever reason. The first setup is still very effective, though. With any of these setups, you should only need 10-14 prayer potions per task with your prayer level, but it always depends on the task.

I doubt a +2 strength/prayer bonus would have any noticeable effect, let alone 10m+ worth of an effect. My defense is enough that I rarely need to bank for food when training slayer/combat, so while it's not in the "elite" level necessarily, it's enough to give me a lot of protection. Due to your stats, I wont fault you for not knowing what you're talking about. Same can be said for you, really Sorry, buddy, but I don't have low combat stats.

This. I would consider using magic there if the left click on the modern spellbook wasn't autocast. <_< But, yeah, they're just as weak to magic as they are to melee and ranged. It's good on teams. EDIT: One time I did a small mass with my last clan, and they all brought ranged and melee while I was using claws of guthix. The demons were using mage protect about 50% of the time, lol.

I doubt a +2 strength/prayer bonus would have any noticeable effect, let alone 10m+ worth of an effect. My defense is enough that I rarely need to bank for food when training slayer/combat, so while it's not in the "elite" level necessarily, it's enough to give me a lot of protection. Due to your stats, I wont fault you for not knowing what you're talking about.

Inventory slots be precious to me. I feel the same way, which is why I try to maximize the usefulness of my gear so that I have more options with my inventory. Fury is more useful than a glory, so I wear a fury; a house tab is more useful than a glory, so I use a house tab. Eh, when I'm decked out in melee gear and have super def pots and a reasonably good def level, I don't think +13 def is worth the convenience of my glory. Other people may feel differently, but I don't need a fury It also has higher strength and prayer, which are the main selling points. An amulet of fury is better than a glory in nearly every way. If you're at all serious about combat, you need a fury. By the way, your defense level is sub-par. You'd notice the difference in defense more than I would.

Inventory slots be precious to me. I feel the same way, which is why I try to maximize the usefulness of my gear so that I have more options with my inventory. Fury is more useful than a glory, so I wear a fury; a house tab is more useful than a glory, so I use a house tab.

Just don't let it happen again.

Accidents happen eh? That's what your dad told your mom too. Sadly, you're right.

Lol, did you say "96" out loud when you hit it? "Gratz on 96 wcing :))" lololololol

Fair enough, the values can always be changed. I'd like the experience to be capped at around 70k/hour. Bear in mind that's about 1/5 of what current training methods, costing only 23 gp/xp can give. That still seems really fast considering how useful herblore is. Personally, I don't think it should be more than 30-50k/h.

That is a horrible quote. I don't wear a fury, and I don't consider myself a "noob". And I know a number of people who'd agree with me. OT: Don't buy it unless you'll have some cushion of money. If you'll be literally broke after buying it, don't buy it. YOU may not consider yourself a noob, but that doens't mean I don't consider you a noob. (Which I didn't call you, but your untrimmed cooking cape kinda says I'm barking up the right tree...) I agree, if you can afford the best gear, might as well get it, unless there is other gear you need which would give you more benefit. Buy a fury eventually, and buy it know if you have the rest you need, otherwise get that first. Simple as that. I don't use a fury because the glory's stats aren't that far off AND the glory has the awesome ability to teleport. That alone is enough for me to take it over a fury Why not carry a glory on your person while you wear a fury? Fury is much better than a glory. Personally, I bring house tabs with me so I have quick access to an altar and bank (glory in house).

This is pretty funny when you consider that the bonuses from a fury far outweigh the bonuses of Bandos. Get 70 prayer, 68-69 summoning, then get a fury. It's a very worthwhile investment.

You should easily be able to support yourself by doing farm runs, MTK, and battlestaffs everyday. It's worth doing.

That's the best way to go. Waterfiends are still great for charms, yes. You make money at waterfiends, and the charms need to be considered in the "cost" of using the SGS, so you wouldn't really lose money. It'd be worth it.

oh god YES that would make max hit calculators so much easier to research and perfect I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case, and I'd be pretty happy if it was. Given the popularity of 99 strength and maxing, this would appease about 99% of the population. Of course, being 99 strenght and maxxing means you have the least chance to hit your max, as opposed to someone who could only deal a whole 30 damage getting it every 31st hit. What?