All_Is_Great

If you collect in calquat kegs, you can use glasses on them to get pints separately. This saves you the trouble of banking when doing a run.

I recall yourself saying this loyalty programme forces people to pay. I'm only going off what I read here. And yes you totally, undoublty know this is private equity firms' doing. Frankly, I don't care who thought of this genius plan, because I quite like the rewards, I think they are neat, and since I play non-sporadically, I say this update was very well done. Crocefisso. Sorry for butchering you name, switched up the double s' and the c. :ohnoes:

Add my marker to Edmonton, Alberta, Canada please :shades:

I don't even have reach. The derankers on Halo 3 and [bleep]ing rediculous. If they're not standing around giving the other team free kills, they're shooting me, and trolling me on my mic. I can't find many games where its actually a balanced match. Which also reminds me I hate second accounts, the people who create new ones either to sell or just to "pwn noobs".

Ahh ok. Well RS won't run on firefox 5.0 on my mac, so I'll use Safari for that and Firefox for browsing for now :P

Exactly how I feel. Crossefico, you need to calm down. Stop overreacting to this and also lower your expectations. But hey, I guess you feel like you're "forced" to renew membership since you're semi retired, but I guess that means the update worked, no? Btw, you can cancel your membership, no one is forcing you to pay.

If only they removed the whole "are you sure you want to remove the door?" thing when I trained it >.< Legit rant, I support.

If you have lots of food for Ballak, it shouldn't be much of a problem. Skele trio is brutal though, especially if they pile you... yikes And shadowforger can be such an [wagon] sometimes.

I see i see. Thanks for the input :P. Does mac even allow chrome? Idk, but on my desktop i still use firefox with no problems, just a slow startup time like kevin said the first time I open it after I turn on my computer (about 15 seconds or so). This OS X lion I've heard about, does it just automatically upgrade my laptop from what I'm currently running (i think im on 10.6.7)? As in with a software update thing?

Well I just got a Macbook with OS X as a present, but the problem is I've never used one before, so I'm not quite familiar. Just one quick question though, which browser is better for everyday use? Also what is this about apple not supporting flash or something? I heard apple has its own version of java flash support, but would that only apply to Safari or to both Firefox and Safari? I am thoroughly confused.

Ok so what happened?

Where can I find level 3 men in edgeville?

TIF and RS crashed at the same time, what could this mean?

What does hella mean?

Which one was that? :lol: One thing I don't get is the umpires in baseball. How they always make a big deal with the manager then does the "get outa here!" thing. What's the point :?:

Doesn't Lapalok and Duradel give the same points?

OP doesn't have a fruit bat.

So just solo some levels. It's not THAT slow compared to waiting weekly for penguin points.

I don't get how planking can freak someone out.?

Where do you get this again? I missed the dialouge because i clicked it too fast >.> Oh ty.

Robin Sparkles?

Just collect the obby charms when you do tzhaar tasks :thumbup:

I sure hope so too.

Allright, in a few days time ill make an article discrediting everything that was said. Your argument about the previous membership is valid, but only partially, JaGEx chose to measure loyalty from a set point in time, which is the release of the loyalty rewards system, unfair? not really, they did provide arguments to why it was done so later, - they had some technical difficulties (i remember coming across a thread about it in RSOF, didn't read much into it, but ill search for it), and the main reason was that the ammount of people which would have very unproportionally more points is much lower than those who would have FAR less than them, which would lead to similiar ranting as yours, but reversed, and larger in several orders of magnitude. And of course lets not forget JaGEx is a company, which needs to make money, so they want to release the program with everyone starting equal so the rewards would take longer to get, thus encouraging more people to (hopefully) remain subscribed longer Somehow you seem to disregard the fact that they are actually making RuneScape, the game we play, if they're getting more money, we should be happy, not anything else. Also, you don't have to remain subscibed to get the rewards, you can subscribe one month at a time, and still get points, albeit alot lower then you would get when many months in advance, (hence the term "loyalty"). Getting the top armour in game would take months upon months for an average player, if not years. I see no diffirence between this and waiting those months (even if you subsribe one month at a time, only when you play). Actually it's even better, it's free stuff you get for doing nothing. Alright, I'll await that article. Be sure to submit it as a Letter to the Editor as opposed to a guest article because it's replying directly to an article. The set point in time is fine and good, but the thing is actual loyalty can't just me measured from a set point in time. If they were rewarding for actual loyalty, I would have 917k more loyalty reward points than what I was given this week. They aren't rewarding for loyalty at all, or I would have those points. From what I pulled out of your post, you're assuming that everyone is in a similar situation to players like us with perpetual membership. That's not the case at all... I'm assuming you're familiar with what is known as the "summer crash" when many dump their P2P items before going F2P for 9 months at the end of summer. This obviously signifies that a good portion of players are only subscribed during the summer months when they are available to play. These three consecutive months will earn a dismal 8,500 points per year because according to Jagex, "Should you leave it for over 30 days, you will go right back to the start." If anyone wants to take advantage of these rewards and doesn't want to wait 10 years, they have to stay subscribed for 9 inactive months where they spend $45+ to do absolutely nothing with it. This also goes along with how Jagex runs bonus XP weekends. Instead of hosting ones during December and July when most are available to play, they host them in March and September to make people pay 30 days of membership for 3 days. Or how about Christmas of 2006 and 2010 when they had members only rewards? Jagex is essentially trying to get you to pay for not playing. From a business standpoint, it's brilliant, but from a PR standpoint, it's absolutely terrible. It's shady marketing at best and I don't approve of it at all. Having more money doesn't mean a whole lot anyway. I would say that Jagex could use the money to hire more people to ban bots, but with this rollback BS, they probably just want $ from the bots too. Having more money here isn't improving the game - it's making it worse (inb4bots lower prices). The P2P game should be inherently entertaining enough in and of itself to draw members to its content. Not some points 12 days out of the year, bonus xp 6 days out of the year, and holiday events 4 days out of the year. This isn't pay-to-play anymore. It's pay-for-365-days-and-play-for-a-third-of-that. Sounds legit. Instead of wasting dev time on garbage like this for artificially inflated membership numbers like this, they could be working on the Eastern Lands, the ROTM quest line, or even Prifddinas, which we have been waiting over 5 years for. This would actually improve the game instead of giving someone the ability to use a a hand shake emote (which doesn't even look like a hand shake...) or a barely useful aura (and how could I forget the extremely useful recolors and outfits + the totally unannoying titles). RuneScape will never be looked upon as a respectable game by video game critics or anyone else if they continue crap like this. Just look what happened with Team Fortress 2 - it was an extremely popular game amongst the PC gamers until Valve started selling hats in the game (for real cash), which didn't quite collapse their player base, but certainly diminished it enough to have them release it for free on Steam. Strategies like this have failed in the past. They will certainly generate much temporary revenue, but will ultimately decline due to a lack of continuous substantial content (which is what I'm subbed for). If Jagex doesn't stop with these semi-microtransactions, so too will the enjoyment of the players fall into a dismal abyss of non existence. @strilmus Bungie is done with Halo other than tracking stats after the 7th of July (Bungie Day). That is a goodbye gift to their fans, not some quick marketing gimmick. If you only subscribe 3 out of 12 months, that doesn't scream "I'm a loyal costumer". I also fail to see how this MLP relates to content being developed, because AFAIK, they have more than 1 person working on the game. That is all.

There's nothing wrong with the advice he gave. Just using lamps/TOG/Penguin points on DG to get to 60 would take quite a while because both TOG and Penguins are weekly. Not to mention that the exp given at lower levels is pretty low. Unless OP is willing to unload some quest reward lamps on DG (some have level limits, such as only on skills >30), he's not going to get there fast, and definately not in less than a month. Such uncalled for hostility.