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On the F2P front, melee is the only combat style that can "KO" your opponent - R2H, Corrupt weapons, Gravite 2H. Range is very accurate and hits very fast, but opponents can eat out of a stream of 180s. The same can't be said with a corrupt scimitar, b-ax, or gravite 2h's 290+ hits. The most effective setup with the lowest risk in F2P is range tank + rune 2h. Magic leaves much to be desired. The blastbox now might allow for tricking your opponent to death, but if it ever catches on it'll be no contest. Magic has the fastest training, except that's only because training doesn't involve combat spells.

The rent is too damn high. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0

Is that just crafting nature runes? Solution to that is to introduce a new kick-ass spell that creates a new demand for nature runes (which, invariably make high alchemy more expensive and remove it from the game)

Dirty capitalists.

Either have a cold or my allergies are bugging me. Sore throat, runny nose. Kinda feels like an ear infection is coming on. Not sure if I have a fever, will check when I get home. Just wish today would end.

If it wasn't for half-decent mindless magic experience, high alchemy would be worthless. As far as inflation sources fixing themselves, there's a simple thought experiment. There's a hypothetical place in the wilderness that spawns 10k gp every minute. Players fight each other to be there - 600k an hour just to stand there. In every world, everyone has this spot covered. For 200 worlds, the economy is increasing its GP supply by 120 million an hour. Pretty soon its a month later, and 86.4 billion GP has come into the economy. All the prices have inflated because GP is worth less than it was before. Another month goes by, and the price of everything has doubled. That 600k an hour figure now changes to 300k an hour from two months ago, based on its purchasing price. All of a sudden 300k an hour for no experience gained doesn't seem quite as appealing, when compared to other methods, like godwars or barrows (which were about 1m an hour in two months ago terms). Most players go back to their old routine, leaving some worlds vacant. 50 billion extra GP now flows into the game every month, causing inflation to occur much slower. As the GP becomes worth less, standing at that spot becomes much less coveted. Yes, inflation from that spot never truly goes away, but the immediate problem fixes itself.

Wonder what would happen if you ran into PVP with no armour... are the hits you're receiving based on your defense, or their defense? If I was faced with that, I'd run to the GE or another area outside of the currently loaded section.

Time to dust off my full skeleton costume...

Jagex will never defeat botting, and trying to "defeat" it will be the death of runescape. When the last server shuts down in runescape, there will still be bots trying to click at nothing. I know the point you're trying to make, but I'm looking at this from a different perspective. Merchanting clans are bad because it parts fools with their money. But anyhow, from a "fight inflation" perspective, they're a "good" thing. People who have the goal of simply hoarding GP take it off the market. Wasn't aware of those discussions. All the other points were based on things I've seen many times around the forums. Yes, I realize that. I usually PK with no armour, risking a rune scimitar, a rune 2h, and an amulet of power. Usually my drops are a scimitar, 2h (two items they're wielding), and something like a platebody or a kiteshield (and lots of amulets). I don't have the screenshots of my collective drops on me right now, but I'll tally the drops later. Also those corrupt drops are few and far between, I usually gain about 50 pieces of rune armour before a corrupt drop. It might take a day to complete a transaction, but inflation is a long term thing. Active participants in the runescape economy shouldn't notice it at all.

Do you risk it in pvp or bh worlds? PVP mostly. BH worlds are typically used for no arms. No arms have too much risk involved, not like full rune fights where the probability of just getting a hit is about 1 in 4, then stacking two hits that are high enough to kill a person is so small it doesn't matter, except for lag. Also, you still get drops even if you ep is 2% or 25%. Just not 0%.

How is a bot's supply insecure? I stated this in my article, but I will repeat it for you; They are there at the whim of Jagex' security updates, and will to go out and mass-ban these things, none of which are predictable... That's what I thought. When was the last time you saw a mass ban? How long did it take for you to see bots spring up after that? Botters will still bot. If the numbers are as large as you claim, it doesn't matter if half of them get banned. Botters are in it for either XP, or GP. Botters that are in it for GP are likely to sell their stuff more often than those who are in it for XP, before they get banned. Since there are so many of them, it doesn't matter how often they get banned. They'll still sell raw materials. Botters that don't sell their stuff and get banned have no effect on anything, when a bot is banned its as if they never existed (unless they're higher in level, and have interacted with the game for a long time as a real person). High level players that get banned are likely to leave the game with very large amounts of GP. There's some deflation for you. I'm not sure people have a problem with what they're doing (buying low and selling high), its a problem with how they're doing it (duping people to believe that buying out item x will net everyone a profit). They're also upset with the temporary freeze in the market - it doesn't matter how much they're willing to pay for an item, they just can't get it (or anything related). Many things in runescape are done on a whim, which is why stocking up on everything you might ever need isn't possible. Its not bank space, its GP. Did I mention I have no sympathy for impatient people? If you need it NAO, RAIT NAO!, then l2bpatient... Can you feel sympathy for the noobs that buy into merchanting clans, and lose all their GP? So uh, who told you this? Can you find 3 people in the past 6 months on the forums that have said this? Fortunately, I do not only use forums to see what some people are thinking... But I think I get the implication of your statement here, you think that noone believed this lie in the first place... Just as I can't be bothered to quote everyone that actually did believe this, you cannot claim noone did not believe it... However... Whether or not people believe Dungeoneering had an impact on the economy, most people will think of that impact of being the cost to keep Chaotic equipment up and running... Not the fact that many people suddenly stopped 'participating' in RuneScape... This is a troll, and you will be reported for it... I want to know who is thinking this. I haven't seen any posts arguing counter to this. I'm not asking you to defend your point, I'm asking you to source it. As I posted before, the PVP drop table would've fixed itself. Here's one for you - I've been PVPing a lot the past month, and guess what. 75% of the value of my drops have been sold to the GE - items that weren't worth alching. You know what that means if it held true for everyone (no way of knowing because I don't P2P PVP)? PVP causes deflation. Hang on, if I get you correctly, you sold some drops you got on the PVP worlds on the GE and therefor PVP causes inflation? First of all, get it in your skull please that nothing in RuneScape fixes itself, not even the economy, and ESPECIALLY not a droptable as it remains EXACTLY the same without Jagex updating it... Second, your drops also consisted most likely of statues which are traded directly for GP... This GP flows into the economy much faster than alching or monster drops or thieves do, and therefor it caused a massive spike in the common trade index (learn about it)... Selling something to the GE does not remove GP form the game, the item goes to someone else, and the GP goes from them to you; aka nothing gets added or removed... Now I can already hear your next argument; "But if more items come into the game, the supply gets higher, so prices drop; and tadaa, its deflation." All very untrue because this is not what inflation is. Inflation is when there is an ever increasing amount of GP available PER PERSON... If there used to be X amount of GP for 10 million players, and now there is 3 times X amount of GP available for 12 million players (and not 30 million) it is inflation... Everyone has (on average) more money to buy stuff with, and therefor prices go up... The reason why this is bad is because it kills the diversity of the game, something RuneScape is very famous for... Lets reduce this scenario to a very specific example. There are two players and 10 GP in a fictitious runescape economy. There is also one iron scimitar. That's it. Very simple. I kill a player in PVP, and get 5 GP and an iron scimitar as a drop. Now there are 15 GP in my fictitious runescape economy, and there are two iron scimitars. Deflation occurred, even though GP entered the game. Yes, I know runescape's economy is not that simple, but my point is very clear. From PVP, I received many more items worth something than I received GP. I include alchable items in the GP category. The other point I tried to make last time was that PVP inflation would solve itself. This is conceptually a little more difficult to grasp, but I don't feel like explaining it again. You're an active player in RuneScape. Why does it matter to you if one GP buys 1/100th of a piece of coal, or 1/300th, so long as 1 piece of coal buys 1/10th of an uncut emerald? It matters because I cannot use the GE to trade 10 coal directly for an uncut emerald... GE is supposed to be the tool of the economy, using GP as a lubricant... See my previous answer on why inflation is bad... So you mine ten coal, and you want an uncut emerald. You cannot find someone to trade you ten coal for an uncut emerald, so you go to the GE. You trade your 10 coal for gp, then buy an uncut emerald on the GE. Why does it matter to you if the GP was 1500 or 3000?

I always knew he was a piece of crap. The casino my older brother works for gives more to charity (as a percentage and as a dollar amount) than this.... I think I'll frequent that more often with a clean conscience.

[hide] How is a bot's supply insecure? I'm not sure people have a problem with what they're doing (buying low and selling high), its a problem with how they're doing it (duping people to believe that buying out item x will net everyone a profit). They're also upset with the temporary freeze in the market - it doesn't matter how much they're willing to pay for an item, they just can't get it (or anything related). Many things in runescape are done on a whim, which is why stocking up on everything you might ever need isn't possible. Its not bank space, its GP. So uh, who told you this? Can you find 3 people in the past 6 months on the forums that have said this? As I posted before, the PVP drop table would've fixed itself. Here's one for you - I've been PVPing a lot the past month, and guess what. 75% of the value of my drops have been sold to the GE - items that weren't worth alching. You know what that means if it held true for everyone (no way of knowing because I don't P2P PVP)? PVP causes deflation. You're an active player in RuneScape. Why does it matter to you if one GP buys 1/100th of a piece of coal, or 1/300th, so long as 1 piece of coal buys 1/10th of an uncut emerald? Or they should not worry about it and play the game how they want to? [/hide]

Lagged and died... but not before getting 800k in loot tonight. That makes my last G2H's loot about 7m... stupid averages. Time to start dungeoneering again?

4 days pking, many people killed. 3 Targets killed. Net 6125k in loot (several deaths with scim&2h in no arms, this is whats left over), 600k spent on food. 1 corrupt dragon scim as a drop. very tired, selling loot right now. :thumbup:

Beef jerky. 'Nuff said.

Maybe she got hungry? :razz: OH LOLZ

For leaving the burger alone, she certainly messes with the fries an awful lot.

Have the book in front of me right now. Google'd the source, the guy is a criminologist at Florida State University and has a phd.

I don't want to contribute to the already over-abundant anti-conservatism here, but Glenn Beck's Arguing with Idiots is hardly a trustable source. How could you count the number of crimes prevented by guns? How could you even estimate, or decide which are prevented? Guns are for killing, and that's the bottom line. Its not Glenn Beck I want to cite, its the primary source he uses. The book has about 25 pages of small print dedicated to sourcing its material, it was very well researched.

And that doesn't even include crimes committed with guns. Every tried robbing a bank with a knife? It's a little bit less impressive. Ever tried to run away from someone without getting hurt? It's a heck of a lot easier if they don't have a firearm. Arguing with Idiots had a figure that countered this... I think it was nearly 700,000 crimes are prevented every year in the US because of gun ownership. There were quite a few stats in that book, they were all cited. I don't have it in front of me right now, but I'll post it when I do. Anyhow, who cares (in this context). We're talking about life expectancy here. So, out of 300 million people, 31 thousand have their lives cut short by fire arms. That's insignificant. Say everyone that dies due to guns lose 50 years from their life. That brings the overall life expectancy down by less than 2 days. You'd get more life out of everyone by banning fries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTtiieTSe4I&feature=player_embedded Paid for by the Friends Of People Against The Kicking In The Face Of Children.

I prefer snow days.

That was the most off topic "on topic" post I've seen in a while ;-) Anyhow, I read a statistic in "Arguing with Idiots" that Japan's suicide rate (per capita thingy) is higher than deaths due to firearms and something else combined. Either way, trimming 50ish years of the lives of less than a hundreth of a percent of the population isn't going to dramatically change the average life expectancy. Something brought up in the OP suggested that premature babies also lower life expectancy. There is research that shows women that have abortions are more likely to give birth premature. There is other research that shows that women that terminate their first pregnancy are more likely to have breast cancer than those that don't. The science is based on how the breast develops in life and when pregnant (breast lobules have 4 stages of development; terminating a pregnancy stops lobules from maturing properly and are more prone to cancer) http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/maturity.htm Anyhow, didn't want to bring that up because of the highly divisive nature of the subject, but cancer is another factor in lower life expectancy, much more-so than a for-profit health care system.

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