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That's a super d-bag thing to do.

This might clear a bit of that up. http://www.gopusa.com/fresh-ink/2010/10/tell-the-truth-campaign.php

Think about it this way (generically of course, not this specific situation). House fires like this are very rare events, few and far between. The fire department has to exist first before they can put out fires. Keeping a fire department requires hiring several people full time, and buying all that expensive equipment. If everyone paid the fire department only when they needed it, the fire department wouldn't receive enough funding to exist. Apply that lesson here. If everyone in their subscription base (areas outside the city) knew that the fire department would still respond to a house fire even if they hadn't paid, what's the point of paying up front to begin with? House fires are rare, and the $75 will probably never go to saving your house. I agree that a different fee schedule could be charged - $75 up front will give your house protection for a year, covering all costs. Houses that elect to not pay the up front fee will be charged the amount or more that it takes to put the fire out (gets expensive very quickly). You'll hear if you watch the embedded video in the ABC link that the county where the live in is looking to establish a fire department, and that legislation is in the works. Unfortunately its several weeks (20 years) too late.

Ok fine. is it poisonous? Very. More or less than a rattlesnake? They also chase your shadow. What happens at noon? :ohnoes:

Ok fine. is it poisonous? Very. More or less than a rattlesnake?

How about this attack website, http://whoisrobsteele.com/ [hide=funny picture] [/hide] If you price some of the vehicles, you'll find they're (individually) not worth more than a few thousand dollars.

I'm guessing to the great glass eating incident of- er a few years ago? I never really ever read that thread. (I know i'm less of a TIF'er for it). Nope. Thread on a different forum 3 years ago that got spotlight from stumbleupon, and digg at one point. http://gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=64672.0 Its gone now. :sad: So thats what fear looks like. What's the name of that son'[bleep]? Camel Spider I believe, not sure of it's breed, they are common in iraq, but mostly in a tannish/brown - not sure where the hell that one comes from, but i'd cry if i saw it I sure as hell'd do more than that. I'd be off as son as possible. I pee'd myself a little. :oops:

Of course they would. Same as anyone with a newly diagnosed health condition would love to have health insurance. Or someone in an car wreck. Sure I'll pay your small fee now, so you can dump more money on me. That's not how insurance works.

Read bows post, really. I agree with him 24/7. DRs are required by law to treat everyone, even if no insurance. However, they are not required to save anyone's house. All the people were safe obviously. And tbh, if they needed to put out the fire to get the people out of there, they would. It is really shallow to make it sound like doctors help people who cannot pay just because the law requires them to do so. The firefighters have a moral obligation to extinguish fires inside the range of their capacity. What one should or should not do is not dependent upon the law, it just generally correlates, or at least we attempt to make them do so. So it is comparable to a doctor and not refusing to serve someone due to their inability to pay. Just because you can ignore something doesn't mean you should. And shelter is a defined necessity of life so allowing someone's house to burn down in a theoritcal sense is more severe than loosing a limb, as all four limbs are not defined as a necessity of life. You also have to think about the firefighters. They probably were ordered by the chief to not put out the fire. If they used the departments resources without permission, there would be hell to pay for them. Also, putting out a fire is not without risks, is it?

I ingested a small (dime-sized) piece of aluminum foil. Should I be worried? (if you get the reference, you're my hero.) OT - I hear the spiders are everywhere, much like the tarantulas in Raiders of the Lost Ark. You'll have about 20 of them on your back before you know it.

Missed this. They refused to go out until the fire spread to a neighbor's house, who did pay for the protection. What I'd be interested in knowing is if it became a wildfire, how they would have treated it.

A little more background information, for those of you that did not (or could not) read the original article. The city's fire department in the past only served the city. These people were outside of the city, and did not pay taxes to the city. Several years ago, the city offered its fire protection to homes in the surrounding areas for a small fee - $75 a year. This family either forgot to or chose not to pay for this service, they have in the past. Its unclear why they didn't pay this time, but it wasn't for lack of knowing. They were burning trash in a barrel when the fire got out of control. They called the dispatcher, would could not get the city fire department to respond. Only when the fire spread to a neighbor's property, who did in fact pay the fee, did the city's fire department respond. The fire department stop the fire from spreading off the one property. In my opinion - As horrible as it is to have firemen watch your house burn, the blame rests squarely on the individuals. They had the opportunity to protect their property from fire, but negligently chose not to. Its not that they couldn't pay, they didn't. I'm not familiar with their local or state tax system, but I'd venture to guess new laws will be passed with this recent event in mind. Having public fire protection (like EMS) is one thing I feel that government can do to benefit society.

The California one just droned on and on and on.... I wonder if they paid to put that mini-documentary on the air.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/10/05/general-us-house-left-to-burn_7987652.html?boxes=Homepagebusinessnews Sad story. Homeowners neglect to pay for fire protection, their house catches, and they have to watch it burn. Figured we can have some spirited discussion on it. I'll post my thoughts later. EDIT: Another link to a different story, same event. Might load better for yous peeps. http://abcnews.go.com/US/tennessee-familys-home-burns-ground-firefighters-stand-watch/story?id=11806407

magekillr, hands down.

There's a group of bums near the exit of a popular highway. I've had neighbors offer them jobs instead of spare change, but they've always declined. As it turns out, they were making about $80k a year from the change they begged for (local news organization broke the story a while back). $80k / year from begging for change? Sounds like a pretty sweet gig. Not to judge all homeless people, but I have very little respect for people who aren't actively seeking to improve their lives through productive means. Was visiting San Fransisco a few years ago. I watched someone with a fresh cast and crutches set up to beg for change next to another homeless person. I mean, really? I've got a couple $15 subway gift cards in my wallet. Figure next time I'm asked for change I'll give them one of those instead. No, I won't finance your booze addiction, but I will make sure you're not hungry.

Form your team on W7, have them join your personal CC, then direct everyone to hop to a different world.

Is that to say there are other sects of scientology? Usually cults are minorities, but if the majority of scientology is a cult, then I'd say scientology is a cult.

went to w1 today, saw someone selling a santa hat. Checked the price, 100.8m. Had 98ish m in the bank. <_< Offered him water tallies, didn't have enough. Went to the RC guild to cash out my tokens. A bit over 98m, 250 water talismans, and I got myself a nice old santa. I've got no idea what street price is, but at this point I don't care. No matter how rare these things get, I'll still have one. Also bought another gravite 2h today. Hopefully this one will last just as long, or longer than the last one. Not sure when I'll get the PVP bug, but when I do I'll be ready. I've got 100.8m I need to make up :razz:

I don't get it, "trj" is not even a word!!!!!!!!! Dirty trjs...

Um, don't? Lexicus hits too hard. Also, most of the books have ridiculously low HP, easy 1 hits. If you're with someone else, you can split that up. It makes killing lexicus take about the same time too - you're not eating as much.

I totally tripped balls today. It was the screeny that was important. [hide=pics for proof] [/hide] Using the first one as my background at work.

I'm totally tripping balls. [hide=screenies] [/hide]

You're comparing apples and oranges. Maybe you should compare it to birds or turtles, creatures that lay eggs. Are you allowed to go smash turtle eggs in the UK? Its illegal in America. Never heard of someone performing an abortion on another animal... maybe we need to give them those rights? Accidental breeding and we should *fix* the accident?

Maybe you should search "Roman Catholic church aliens" - you'll be surprised what you find.