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Women who have abortions are 50% more likely to have ectopic pregnancy in the future than women who don't. That study doesn't differentiate the two, and not separating the two groups adds a confounding factor to your carry to term vs abortion statistic. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Abortion+Increases+Risk+of+Ectopic+Pregnancy+by+50%25.-a055354985

http://afterabortion.org/2004/death-rate-of-abortion-three-times-higher-than-childbirth/ There are many things wrong with your statement. Firstly, all statistics for abortions are lumped into pregnancy statistics. Secondly, all women with previous abortions are lumped into pregnancy statistics. The risk for complications in the pregnancy after an abortion greatly increase due to scarring. Also, post-abortion complications are under reported due to the secret nature of the procedure itself. About 10% of women have complications after abortion, with about 2% being major. Also lumped into pregnancy statistics are the conditions of the babies themselves, a premature baby might not pose much of a risk to its mother but the complication is certainly life threatening to the baby. Basically anything saying otherwise and NOT reporting/removing these factors is likely to have a serious flaw in its statistic, and quite probably a biased source.

Did you grab Tip.it's F2P list?

I got 68 on the Astronauts... but that test sucked with its numbers, names and random punctuation. I was up to 85 on Wizard of Oz when I bumped my trackpad and my browser went away. Oh yeah, I'm lying down on my laptop, perhaps I'd be better with proper posture on a desktop, sitting upright?

"As a P2P player, I will quit over this" Yep, I did say that. Means Jagex won't get my $6 / month. Why would anyone support a company that does exactly what you don't want them to? Also, a game with a player base as large as RuneScape has won't disappear in a year. The point I'm trying to make that you might've missed is that Jagex needs to grow its F2P community fast, or it won't get new members. If you want to grow a game, you don't start by kicking your existing player base between the legs.

...no, that's not how statistics work... That's how cross tabulating works. I checked, and I'm pretty sure it's not. If you were taking two questions and showing how they interact, that would be cross tabulating (or at least it might be, depending how you did it). Blatantly ignoring one of the three options on a single question is not that. (If it is, mind explaining? I'd love to learn, honestly; I hadn't heard that term before.) When I made the statement, I qualified it. "Of the people who care" means of the people who didn't respond "I don't care", which only leaves "Yes" and "No". Statisticians do it all the time in polls, usually their qualifier is "Of likely voters", or "Moderates", etc. Say those that responded yes are 80%, and those that responded no and don't care are 10% each. Then of those that care, (80% + 10% = 90), 88.9% said yes (80 / 90).

...no, that's not how statistics work... That's how cross tabulating works.

The poll says 80% when I look at it. The poll is obviously unreliable, as are all self-selected polls. It does say 80% under the category of "no", but when you remove the people that don't care, it becomes 90%.

As a P2P player, I will quit if Jagex goes through with this.

Not if the colts suck worse.

And which post are you referring to, or are you just trolling? This whole thread, and no I'm not trolling. You could've carried this debate on in the thread that already existed, but no, you wanted a poll, as if that would provide the Holy Grail you've been looking for to keep F2P hiscores open. I'm just placing in the caveat that even if you get 100% of people supporting you, you can still be wrong, and actually, the number of people who agree with you is largely an irrelevence unless Jagex decide to open a referendum on the issue (which they won't, so why bother holding one of your own when it carries no weight at all?). We know that Jagex frequents fan sites, even if they do not post. Arguments are everywhere, and it doesn't provide a tidy summary of what everyone think. Sometimes the most vocal minority out-shout the majority because they care more. Also, if Jagex does go through with this update, we can see that of the people that care about the hiscores, 90% don't want this update. Ignoring 90% of your customers has never been a healthy business decision. Oh, and the way I know the number is 90% is because of that poll.

And which post are you referring to, or are you just trolling?

Because making a poll took 30 seconds... You mad bro?

The short of it - Embryonic stem cells come from embryos. Usually at that stage, the baby is referred to as a "blastocyst" and resembles a ball of cells. This is about 4-5 days after fertilization, when normally the baby would be moving down the fallopian tubes into the uterus. To "harvest" cells, a scientist will "scrape" the insides of the blastocyst, or flatten it onto a petri dish. Another technique is called budding - when the baby is only about 8 cells, the scientist will separate one of those cells and use that to grow stem cells. Getting into semantics, this process is still considered morally unacceptable since if budding happened in nature, identical twins would have formed. Also, in the research done to come up with this process, all of the hosts the cell came from were neglected and died. The biggest source of embryos comes from the unused frozen leftovers of IVF. Usually this is between 6-100 embryos, usually less. In order to have a theoretically feasible treatment using embryonic stem cells, about 8 million embryos are needed. Considering woman have fewer egg cells, embryonic stem cell treatment is not feasible. I know I said otherwise earlier, but another source scientists would like to exploit for embryonic stem cells come from aborted female fetuses. The idea is to use all the egg cells in their ovaries for embryos, and it would "solve" the problem of the number of embryos needed.

I have a member account, and a f2p account. If I can't show off my F2P stats, I will quit runescape and it'll save me $6/month. There are enough substitutes out there now that I won't miss this.

Change "fire r&d" to "stop free game" and it might make more sense. No, it still contradicts the bot busting software. The free game was a shit heap long before bots started rising in P2P. I think it pissed enough members off that Jagex had to do something or there would've only been bots left. Jagex broke the bots in P2P, F2P was just along for the ride.

Change "fire r&d" to "stop free game" and it might make more sense.

How did a browser based game with shitty graphics become so popular? If Jagex's original business model for RuneScape sucked so bad, why are game developers everywhere starting to emulate it? Free players give runescape two things - word of mouth, and an ease into a game that doesn't look very fun. If Jagex cuts out the free segment of runescape, then certainly they'll save money short term, but long term their game won't survive.

You trolling or curious?

Posting this here too: Replace "fire r&d department" with "kill f2p game"

Is anyone surprised by the results?

I have to scrap the entire poll to remove previous votes.

I'm limited to 3.

@Mods, Yes, I know there are other topics discussing this, but I wanted a poll. I considered just putting yes for each answer, given the way the wilderness / free trade shamocracy was conducted.