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The type that isn't a witch.

Fetus =/= embryo The only thing controversial about stem cell research is embryonic stem cell research. I don't understand why people are trying to bring abortion into this debate, as a bunch of dead 3 month old fetuses won't help stem cell research more than a bit of your skin.

:wall: By the time a woman gets an abortion, her baby has already differentiated enough that its stem cells are "adult" stem cells, not embryonic. A baby is an embryo for less than 6 days. Abortions cannot supply embryos for research, period.

93 years later, the world is about to explode. The one lesson from WWI that we've learned and have still applied is that the victors of war have a responsibility to help their opponents rebuild their countries.

Orphaned meaning abandoned. It's not what "can" happen, it's what does happen. Theoretically in IVF, one egg cell could be fertilized with one sperm cell and then implanted, leaving one child and no others frozen or discarded. Theoretically it could happen, but in reality it doesn't. Also included in the process is embryo profiling, where the scientist selects the "best candidates" and discards the others, so created life is killed.

If you can understand or appreciate why some people think embryonic stem cell research is wrong, you can apply their logic to IVF. Most of the time for IVF, multiple egg cells are harvested and then fertilized. Once a woman becomes pregnant, she doesn't need to have another baby implant itself. The end result are a bunch of humans in petri dishes left orphaned. Also, you can probably understand the whole idea behind a religious view of marriage and sex, and how IVF involves procreation, but leaves no place for love.

I think we need to make this into some kinda Chuck Norris thing... Andrew Gower uses unsigned integers in Java. Andrew Gower once beat Nex, using a bronze dagger, and a level 3. And he did it in one hit.

My roommate. Don't touch my alarm clock unless you make sure I'm awake, and holy shit let it ring for more than 5 seconds. I set the time because I WANT TO BE AWAKE AT THAT TIME, not because I want to annoy you. Also, eat your own damn food. I'm being nice enough to let you use my microwave and minifridge, you can do me the courtesy of leaving my food alone. I have no problem making both off limits to you, just try me.

The fact is that by the time someone is looking to get an abortion (2-3 months), their baby has already differentiated enough and it does not contain embryonic stem cells.

Working on my lab due in 12 hours. Have absolutely no idea how to do any of it, and having trouble looking it up. Spent 2 hours trying to figure out why I couldn't program my board, only to find that the LCD I'm interfacing to it is f-ing up and doing something wrong. I hate peripherals.

Umbilical cord blood is categorized as adult stem cells.

Mods, can you move your abortion debate into the abortion thread, and stick to discussing stem cells in here? kthxbai Having looked into this topic a bit, there are a few things to note: -AFAIK, all successful treatments to date have been from adult stem cells. I would expect to a huge fuss in the media for a successful treatment using fetal cells, mostly because of the left-wing bias and/or the moral debate flaring up. -The biggest problem so far in using fetal cells is that although they can form *anything* in the body, they also form tumors. Until this can be resolved, there will be no treatments using fetal cells -The biggest problem so far in using adult cells is that they can't form *everything*, and they don't have *unlimited* growing potential. If I understood correctly, these cells would only replicate a few times before they wouldn't replicate anymore. Getting a tad into ethics, a reason that may have been overlooked as to why embryonic research is considered unethical by some is the fact that harvesting cells from a developing baby (in the stage that scientist do it) is about the same as cutting off someone's arm, if you put it to scale. Also, at that point in life, you can't ask permission, so you're forcefully taking.

Does this mean we should say Hyt to Andrew/Ignite in game? Also, Andrew, would you still have a gold crown, and could you ever log in again?

how does his hair do that Somehow reminds me of Buster from Arrested Development. Wish I could find the clip, "Buster so excelled at being neither seen, nor heard, that he remained at the school, undetected for a full two semesters after he was supposed to graduate." [hide=EDIT: Close enough] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOWXn-L5mEw [/hide]

Internet high five!

Hi five!

This is a stupid glitch to ruin your account over. Actually, any glitch is a stupid glitch to ruin your account over.

Getting rid of 98% of bots is amazing. It's reward enough. Now, if only they'd remove the 50% xp penalty in F2P dungeoneering...

JaGEx Intern: Mr. Gower! Mr. Gower! ... It compiled! Andrew: Ship it.

If this works, I'll buy a year of membership.

It's the date part that especially makes it a load of crap. I fully expect to be dead before the world ends.

Cheap transportation in Antarctica... Keeping something that cold isn't cheap.

Glad he's back, but not in this manner. Hopefully there is something bigger coming through the pipes that this is a catalyst for. Also seems funny that the Palestinian Authority have decided that 1 Israeli soldier is worth 1027 Palestinians...