Laura

So make it illegal to smoke and drive. Simple solution to "millions" of deaths. Why don't we do the same with alcohol! :roll:

If that's the game we're playing, then ok You must have missed it then: * Problems with memory and learning * Distorted perception * Difficulty in thinking and problem solving * Loss of coordination * Increased heart rate * Anxiety * Panic attacks * Daily cough and phlegm * Symptoms of chronic bronchitis * More frequent chest colds The cocaine part was for severe heart rate increases.

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I know I'm not really contributing to the discussion but seriously, if you are shooting cocaine and smoking pot at the same time, it's no wonder you are gonna get increased blood pressure. Get findings that state with marijuana alone, heart rate increases.

What marijuana does (or so I have heard, never used myself) is it makes you relaxed. It makes you feel good. Why does it have to do something more? If it makes you feel good, isn't it the best thing in the world? The best things make you feel good. Lets again do a little comparisation. Guns = kill people. Weed = makes people feel good. Seriously how can it be that hard to understand which one is the devil? I think anything that is created just solely on the purpose of killing people can't do any good. Self defense? yeah, keep telling yourself that. But it doesn't change the fact that this self defense weapon of yours can as easily be used for attacking. Or killing tens of your fellow students. Yeah, you just have to have guns. Which bring me back to the point that you never have "perfect users". There will be numbers in the millions of people dying because of DUI's from Marijuana. Yeah, guns can and will be used for attacking, but they can bring some good. If guns were to not exist, then things would be all fine and dandy. But if made illegal, only those looking to kill would have them. And those who abide by the law would have no way to defend themselves. You can't take back something you already know unfortunately. So we balance this by making it legal to own a gun. However marijuana only makes people feel good, which is great. if that was the only thing it did, everything would be great. But look at this(I'm sure you don't want to read the entire thing, as I wouldn't either, but I underlined my point): How does marijuana affect driving? Marijuana affects many skills required for safe driving: alertness, the ability to concentrate, coordination, and reaction time. These effects can last up to 24 hours after smoking marijuana. Marijuana use can make it difficult to judge distances and react to signals and sounds on the road. There are data showing that marijuana can play a role in crashes. When users combine marijuana with alcohol, as they often do, the hazards of driving can be more severe than with either drug alone. Symptoms If someone is high on marijuana, he or she might: * Seem dizzy and have trouble walking * Seem silly and giggly for no reason * Have very red, bloodshot eyes * Have a hard time remembering things that just happened * When the early effects fade, over a few hours, the user can become very sleepy The effects of marijuana on each person depend on the type of cannabis and how much THC it contains; way the drug is taken (by smoking or eating); experience and expectations of the user; setting where the drug is used; and whether drinking or other drug use is also going on. Some people feel nothing at all when they first try marijuana. Others may feel high (intoxicated and/or euphoric). It's common for marijuana users to become engrossed with ordinary sights, sounds, or tastes, and trivial events may seem extremely interesting or funny. Time seems to pass very slowly, so minutes feel like hours. Sometimes the drug causes users to feel thirsty and very hungryan effect called "the munchies." Regarding children, parents should be aware of changes in their child's behavior, although this may be difficult with teenagers. Parents should look for withdrawal, depression, fatigue, carelessness with grooming, hostility, and deteriorating relationships with family members and friends. In addition, changes in academic performance, increased absenteeism or truancy, lost interest in sports or other favorite activities, and changes in eating or sleeping habits could be related to drug use. However, these signs may also indicate problems other than use of drugs. In addition, parents should be aware of: * Signs of drugs and drug paraphernalia, including pipes and rolling papers * Odor on clothes and in the bedroom * Use of incense and other deodorizers * Use of eye drops * Clothing, posters, jewelry, etc., promoting drug use Side Effects Short-term effects: * Problems with memory and learning * Distorted perception * Difficulty in thinking and problem solving * Loss of coordination * Increased heart rate * Anxiety * Panic attacks * Daily cough and phlegm * Symptoms of chronic bronchitis * More frequent chest colds Long-term effects: * Abnormal functioning of lung tissue injured or destroyed by marijuana smoke * Impairment of critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning * Recent findings indicate that smoking marijuana while shooting up cocaine has the potential to cause severe increases in heart rate and blood pressure. Causes The main active chemical in marijuana is THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol). In 1988, it was discovered that the membranes of certain nerve cells contain protein receptors that bind THC. Once securely in place, THC kicks off a series of cellular reactions that lead to the high that users experience when they smoke marijuana. Marijuana is addicting because it causes compulsive, uncontrollable drug craving, seeking, and use, even in the face of negative health and social consequences. Over 120,000 people enter treatment per year for their primary marijuana addiction. In addition, animal studies suggest marijuana causes physical dependence, and some people report withdrawal symptoms. Children and young teens start using marijuana for many reasons. Curiosity and the desire to fit into a social group are common reasons. Certainly, youngsters who have already begun to smoke cigarettes and/or use alcohol are at high risk for marijuana use. -Medicine.net. So as you can see, it has other sideeffects which can cause the user to harm other people, innocent people. There's just to much to lose to legalize some drug to make some teenager feel good.

2/10 I've seen you maybe twice.

Banned for not having an avatar.

Daggers and Battle axes aren't used in mass today. If it's not better than the whip, no one will use them.

I simply laughed when I saw this. Sorry, but it's true. :oops:

Junk food does not cause flawed vision, dizziness, etc, etc. Which is the big deal. It's the side effects of the "flower" that kills innocent people, not the "flower" itself. People drive doped, yeah, and would kill thousands upon thousands of innocent people a year, in the United States alone. I can't even tell you the millions that would die in the world as a whole. I defend the rights to own guns, as they can be used in self defense for some good. What good does some silly drug do? Make some silly teen feel good?

Medically or recreational? Recreational, medical is already legal there. Nevada and Colorado are two other states, however, theirs keep getting rejected by like 60-40 margins. Not that I know anything about it, but I still have my doubts that it will ever become fully legal. :shame:

Banned for having a cube in your signature.

1/10. :oops:

A. Because the title told me not to. Q.Why are Ninjas sugar free?

Yup, then just exchange them in the machine.

Medically or recreational?

Wouldn't those fishing gloves from FOG help? :?:

What are you talking about? I'd end up on the news to try and begin change from the group up by talking to state politicians rather than national ones? Well maybe I would, but not for the reasons you're implying. I'm saying no state, at the moment would be crazy enough to legalize the stuff. There just that big problem of all the people that want to smoke the stuff move into that state. Which leads to the need of more public housing, police officers, any kind of building really. That city would have higher levels of poverty, homeless people, the list goes on. You can't just have one state.

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But getting 600,000 people to even consider that, is well, insane. And I'm sure it wouldn't just be a "peaceful" riot. It'd be like the gay parades, there's always at least one basher. From there violence could set in, and military, police, swat, you name it forces would be set in to keep the peace. And no doubt if something, even a protest with 600,000 people, probably in D.C or state capital, marshal law would be set in. At least once, so you're also showing me the number of users who would be most likely to start this drug is legalized. This only furthers my point, that the millions that die because of drinking and driving a year, would now increase because of people now, smoking and driving.

Lets ban food because people eat it while driving and cause accidents. As stated earlier nothing has 'perfect users'. But he was talking about why isn't it socially acceptable to be in ones house, lighting up a joint, and not going to jail. Sure I suppose that's OK. But in reality, we all know that's not what happens every time. I do find your post intelligent BUT, I have another idea. Why not protest against this bs. Not protest like we currently do waving some stupid "legalize it" signs, but really protest. Why not start openly smoking it. There are many researches millions of people do it, but they do it behind closed doors and secretly. Why not go out and just start doing what you like to do, we all know this is bs, power in numbers: they can't arrest everyone. It's not like we would be doing something morally wrong or violent. Just smoking weed and having fun. It would be so intresting to see what would happen if there were thousands of people smoking weed. Would police try to break up the party? They propably would. Then do it again and with more even more people. Seriously, we need to stand up for our freedoms, this is really an outrage. Sure, they can't arrest everyone...But the fact that you are asking for hundreds of people to start smoking just to prove a point is well, not going to prove anything. You'd either have multiple people backing down, knowing you don't have nearly enough people to revolutionize the way pot is seen. Or you'd just get the SWAT team called on you. At my neighboring middle school(high school, and middle school are like inches apart), 12 users were caught using heroin, sure they didn't do anything to harm anyone else, but they did have the SWAT team come in. A few minutes later, at least 20 men armed in bullet proof shields lined up and arrested them. If that's 12/600, and didn't prove anything, I'm sure hundreds/millions isn't going to change much either. There's just that problem that, I'm pretty sure, any stat you go to in the Union, would deny this as a valid argument. And you'd end up on the 5 o' clock news.

The point is, nothing has perfect users. Humans, are by nature, imperfect, and thus, negative and problematic scenarios are sometimes unavoidable, especially when you're dealing with a general public numbered in the hundreds of millions. What I meant when I was talking about the side effects, is that they aren't nearly as damaging as you seem to think. There are benefits. And you seem to be ignoring this point, so here it is, loud and clear. Legalize weed, and you can still apply laws that cover DUI and public conduct. Don't think that legalising it would somehow also legalize other, more serious crimes Not everything to do with it is negative. So what if I choose to set aside a couple hours of perfect physical ability in exchange for a feeling of being at one with the universe, physically feeling the vibration of peace and love, forgetting stress and letting all those worries fade away. If only it could be permanent, I say. But you're still missing the point I bring across. I'm not ignoring it. You brought up the "Why should I be in jail for doing something I choose; I'm not hurting anyone else." And the fact that we are numbered in the multiples of billions doesn't help the cause. The sideffects still outweigh the benefits. Legalizing weed, and applying the DUI charges etc, does nothing but increase health insurance and cemetery lands. Look at alcohol, legal, eh? Yet still, in 2005, 16,885 people died from alcohol related motor accidents, which accounted for approximately 39% of all motor accidents. And your point about the FDA is totally ridiculous. It's their job. Weed shouldn't be illegal simply because it would take a while to regulate the sale of it. That's just stupid. Oh, regulating it may take a while, I know, I'll just keep it illegal, putting people in prison and ruining lives, needlessly. That makes perfect sense. Perfect, perfect sense. I wasn't making a comment about their job, I was making a comment about the money used for investigation, etc. Ruining people lives? Humans adapt to change. It's like a dog, the often poo on the rug, but when the find out their owner punishes them, they often find another place to do it. Except in real life, you wouldn't do it at all.

Lol! :lol: Guess it really makes sense though. I don't understand the difference in diesel though. Is it just more combustible? I just my Jeep doesn't run on it, boy did I learn that. :oops:

It's not the use of the drug that people get put in jail for. It's the fact that if used enough, there would be larger scale deaths. Imagine 1 million people on pot. Now image 1/1,000 or them on the streets. You're presenting information as if you've smoked the stuff yourself. I don't know why you say all these sidefects are bs, when they have been presented through the DARE system, medical records, and plenty of other accredited sources