stonewall337

If you bought 3k of those d bones why did you price check them LOL. Really your drops were worth around 8m, not 24m ^.^

Obviously just using glories instead of HT-glory would be way faster.

If it's 300k P/H that means its going to be about 450k - 550k per Floor seeing as the bigger floors can take you anywhere from 90 minutes to 120 minutes. Or so i have heard. actually you are both wrong in some ways. f60 with every bonus is something like 220k xp. Warped larges take around 25-35 minutes. Warped larges normally take LESS time then occult, TBH, with a team who knows what they are doing.

No one will tell you what they are flipping, since that will cut into their profit/ability to buy or sell.

I don't see the inconsistency. So speeding up c1's is negligible but he still wants a whole new bind slot to have both hex hunter and be able to GGS in c1's isn't a tad inconsistent? Fast and efficient c1's are a big part of dungeoneering at higher levels. lol wrong. Quite wrong. C1s take me 45 minutes for every 23 large floors I do. Only 2 people need laws. Hell' I've duoed c1s WITHOUT LAWS for either of us and it took us an hour. The time to do c1s is a very small amount of time comparatively. I'd like to try out primal long, baxe, and spear, but since its such a PITA to get back prom 2h I probably won't. Thats the thing.

I thought DFS was good then I got divine I thought rune was good then I got barrows/bandos. I thought d'hide was good then I got arma. ETc No better gear=stagnation. Simple as that.

GL mate.

And those were lower xp floors to :P. I think max xp for me is around 130k xp for one floor.

XPX, time=/=difficulty. No skill is "hard" really. There are time consuming skills, buyable skills "semi-afkable skills" etc. DGing is the ONE skill which actually takes some measure of skill. That is why I don't think changing the bind system to provide some lesser used items. Binding primal boots/gaunts temporarily would not only provide some reason to do c6 frozen floors, but also give the boots some use. However, it wouldn't significantly speed things up, or make things "easier" really. Another idea: I'd give up my primal plate to try out a blood necklace, if I could get primal plate back and swap out BN. That is the whole idea of a "bind bank". I'd use BN on certain floors, plate on others, etc. I could switch between primal baxe/2h/spear in order to try all. Look at it this way: Most people aren't going to change their current setup to try out a bunch of new things because its not practical. In fact, I'd even be willing to lose my 3rd bind for one floor when switching between items, in order to prevent the "bind bank" from making things too easily. And Assasin, C Cat staff>doomcore.

I don't give a [cabbage] if you played RSC, that is actually irrelevant. I'm not saying DG is hard, rather it takes a long time, which if you had read my post you would have seen. The point is not to make the skill easier, but to provide a use to other items. I'd give up my primal plate for a few lower items (boots/gloves/neck)

Longer floors maybe, with more xp. You DO know how long 104m xp takes, don't you? Because you sure don't seem to.

The difference between Jagex fixing what isn't broken and this is quite simple if you think about it. Jagex BREAKS what is fine (Loot pickup). This would be making an already good system better.

80's or 90's is too low, nothing lower then 105/110 IMO

That should be obvious...to be able to access it in the future. There is a reason the best clans don't let in just anyone. Comparing a clan to a public fansite generally doesn't work, As a guy with a near decade in fans, i'd be happy to argue why if you really want to go there. I'd have one major selling point for my argument, I never defined what type of clan, whether skiller, pvm, pvp, dg, etc, and there are numerous subsections of each. However, that is rather off topic. I'd be willing to discuss it on skype if you'd like though, it would be rather interesting :shades: PM me if interested. I wasn't talking about only letting in the "best" scapers, but rather in some type of "probationary" period, in which a person has to be an active poster, actually adding to the community. It would filter out people who create accounts just to troll, etc.

Because this is general DISCUSSION. Will Jagex make any of these changes? Hell no! But that doesn't mean we can't talk about how it could (or should) have been done better. Yes, I agree, I'm VERY happy with the current system. However, Jagex ONCE AGAIN made numerous items USELESS. t11 gloves, boots, coifs, for instance. Most boss armor drops except for plates/a few weps. Etc. There should be SOME use to them, if not gaining that item forever, perhaps temporarily, or maybe some other reward for "gaining" all the items in a set, but not binding them (Getting all celestial items as your drop from a boss results in some bonus, etc) There are SO many ways that this system could be changed, not to necessarily making DGing easier, as it is quite easy ATM, but to provide something extra to do with certain drops. Look at celestial top. It requires 97 DG to achieve, and yet I've NEVER seen it used for anything. Its just a drop you get, and leave on the floor for others to look at, or try on, or maybe if the boss is dead but the keyer hasn't finished running those last few doors, you alch it for cash, etc. Bottom line: There are many items which are simply USELESS now. The system would have been far better balanced, and more diverse, if there we changes made. And that is what we are talking about. Remember, not every topic on this board is about what is currently in game. We also talk about Jagex's methods of implementation, and how they design these things. As for the use of laws in c1's, despite the fact that I doubt Jagex designed the system for people to even DO c1's, the use of laws IN c1's is an example of emergent gameplay, something which you, XPX, normally stand up for wholeheartedly. I understand what Rocked and Grimy are saying. That is why my short term goals are actually quite high. (ATM 1m tokens, then 113 dg then 120.) But it would be nice if there were more uses for tokens beside either ring, or xp, or double rewards. If I didn't have a good time DGing with friends now, I probably wouldn't be training it still.

666.8k tokens, bought scroll of efficiency for S&G and ~950k DG xp today or so. Under 1m to 105. Should get tommorow/wed and might get 106 friday. Saving tokens until I get 1m, and then I'l use as soon as it can get me a level :P

berserker ring and BCP are same size on floor.

Its a game. If you disrespect me in a game, call me a bot, call me all kinds of names because I didn't do EXACTLY what you wanted, then I am going to F with you. Let there be no doubt, that I can be the biggest ass in runescape. Its a matter of personal pride of course. Nothing you elistists can't understand... Ye, I used to do that to [wagon] crashers. People who would do things like "You mad bro?" LOLOL SERKER@@@@ etc.

Probably a sign you are playing the wrong game then, it would seem.

I'm also not saying have all those items AT ONCE. But able to switch it up would be very nice.

I'd give up my plate for prom boots+G prec+b neck, etc.

Defiantly not a small token cost, I'm thinking of at least 400k tokens. It would have to be higher or it would overbalance. And gol, I agree, that there may not be hope, but who knows?