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I'll definitely use a cannon, I value range exp more than mage exp. I can use fire surge, and I guess I should switch over to curses for this task for the berserker prayer? I get a 7 boost from scrolls, I'm 95 mage, I think I'll re-scroll every time I hit like... 99? I was also thinking about using Monk robes instead of Ahrim's, but only if I'd still hit them a lot, this way I can save prayer? Fire cape, fury, and unholy book provide enough prayer. Deflect spells don't drain that fast. I'm going to use an arcane stream, the only things giving me any prayer bonus are the Unholy book and the Fire cape, which is a total of 10, IIR?

Couldn't boss hunt as well as if you were using a whip? WHAT?!?!?! Chaotic Rapier clearly out performs whips at bosses. I've crashed lvl 138s with whips at bandos GWD using my rapier. I'm lvl 134 with maxed melees and I can crash KBD ls teams of 4-5 lvl 130s with whips/zammy spears. Rapier is much better than whip at bosses. As for Rapier vs. CLS at bosses, I wouldn't know, because everytime I log into a world where someone has a CLS at KBD, they hop.... :rolleyes: Bandos is weak to slash, not stab, so I'm going to assume you either had a defender, and they didn't, or you didn't crash enough kills to get an accurate sample, that or you clawed half of his HP before switching to the Rapier. Also, the KBD is EXTREMELY weak to stab, it's a dragon, and the rapier itself is FAR better than a Zamorakian spear, add on a defender, and you'd easily be able to crash multiple people with a weapon that uses stab, on a weak-to-stab monster. The people with CLS (I'll assume this has happened less than 2 times) hop because you're both going to hit nearly every single time, but the Rapier has a higher DPS due to hitting faster. So unless I see some actual tests performed, no, the CR doesn't out perform the whip, considering most monsters have a weakness to slash, not stab. I don't own claws, so no, I didn't claw Bandos to half hp right away, and I was using obby shield while they were using either defenders or divines. As for KBD, why would you assume it happened less than 2 times? That seems kind of random, and it's happened 4 times btw. @Jard: What are you talking about? How does you having 99 slayer in any way affect what I've done? :wall: Becuase 99 slayer is epic. I HIGHLY doubt that you, using a Rapier + obby shield could beat players with Whip + defender at bandos. It doesn't seem random, it's probably only happened to you once, so you assume it will happen every time. ;) But my point still stand, YES the Rapier is going to scare people with CLS away at KBD because it's got a higher dps on "low defense monsters" and the KBD is a "low defense monster" since you're using stab. Oh yeah, you got me there, I'm just some idiot who got one kill and assumes it happens every time... <_< No, I've crashed atleast 5 lvl 138s that were using whips, got atleast 4/5ths the kills, and eventually they hopped. You need to stop assuming so much, it makes you look like an ass. :wink: And you're wink face makes you look like an arrogant douchebag, but I didn't point it out until you called me an ass.

From other players? No. From monsters? yes.

I'll definitely use a cannon, I value range exp more than mage exp. I can use fire surge, and I guess I should switch over to curses for this task for the berserker prayer? I get a 7 boost from scrolls, I'm 95 mage, I think I'll re-scroll every time I hit like... 99? I was also thinking about using Monk robes instead of Ahrim's, but only if I'd still hit them a lot, this way I can save prayer?

Couldn't boss hunt as well as if you were using a whip? WHAT?!?!?! Chaotic Rapier clearly out performs whips at bosses. I've crashed lvl 138s with whips at bandos GWD using my rapier. I'm lvl 134 with maxed melees and I can crash KBD ls teams of 4-5 lvl 130s with whips/zammy spears. Rapier is much better than whip at bosses. As for Rapier vs. CLS at bosses, I wouldn't know, because everytime I log into a world where someone has a CLS at KBD, they hop.... :rolleyes: Bandos is weak to slash, not stab, so I'm going to assume you either had a defender, and they didn't, or you didn't crash enough kills to get an accurate sample, that or you clawed half of his HP before switching to the Rapier. Also, the KBD is EXTREMELY weak to stab, it's a dragon, and the rapier itself is FAR better than a Zamorakian spear, add on a defender, and you'd easily be able to crash multiple people with a weapon that uses stab, on a weak-to-stab monster. The people with CLS (I'll assume this has happened less than 2 times) hop because you're both going to hit nearly every single time, but the Rapier has a higher DPS due to hitting faster. So unless I see some actual tests performed, no, the CR doesn't out perform the whip, considering most monsters have a weakness to slash, not stab. I don't own claws, so no, I didn't claw Bandos to half hp right away, and I was using obby shield while they were using either defenders or divines. As for KBD, why would you assume it happened less than 2 times? That seems kind of random, and it's happened 4 times btw. @Jard: What are you talking about? How does you having 99 slayer in any way affect what I've done? :wall: Becuase 99 slayer is epic. I HIGHLY doubt that you, using a Rapier + obby shield could beat players with Whip + defender at bandos. It doesn't seem random, it's probably only happened to you once, so you assume it will happen every time. ;) But my point still stand, YES the Rapier is going to scare people with CLS away at KBD because it's got a higher dps on "low defense monsters" and the KBD is a "low defense monster" since you're using stab.

Setup, inventory, cannon?, # I can kill per trip?. Help, I don't know what I'm doing, lol.

Bank picture? I want to see these 500 sets. Da whole bank puh-leez!

Couldn't boss hunt as well as if you were using a whip? WHAT?!?!?! Chaotic Rapier clearly out performs whips at bosses. I've crashed lvl 138s with whips at bandos GWD using my rapier. I'm lvl 134 with maxed melees and I can crash KBD ls teams of 4-5 lvl 130s with whips/zammy spears. Rapier is much better than whip at bosses. As for Rapier vs. CLS at bosses, I wouldn't know, because everytime I log into a world where someone has a CLS at KBD, they hop.... :rolleyes: Bandos is weak to slash, not stab, so I'm going to assume you either had a defender, and they didn't, or you didn't crash enough kills to get an accurate sample, that or you clawed half of his HP before switching to the Rapier. Also, the KBD is EXTREMELY weak to stab, it's a dragon, and the rapier itself is FAR better than a Zamorakian spear, add on a defender, and you'd easily be able to crash multiple people with a weapon that uses stab, on a weak-to-stab monster. The people with CLS (I'll assume this has happened less than 2 times) hop because you're both going to hit nearly every single time, but the Rapier has a higher DPS due to hitting faster. So unless I see some actual tests performed, no, the CR doesn't out perform the whip, considering most monsters have a weakness to slash, not stab.

At first I wanted the rapier, because it has better DPS for slaying, and generally anything that's not a boss, and because I fence, lol. Then I started to wonder... Does any account ONLY slay or ONLY boss hunt? At some point, you're gonna be doing both. You're not going to "never slay again" or "never boss hunt again". So shouldn't you want the weapon that can perform both tasks? The Rapier slays like a pro, a whip on steroids. The CLS cuts through bosses defense like nothing. The Rapier can't hit bosses as often as the CLS can, it's just not accurate enough. The CLS can hit just as well on low level monsters as the Rapier, it's just slower. The CLS is better dps on slayer monsters than a whip, yes? I'd rather have the CLS that can slay better than the whip, which is fast enough as it is, AND take out bosses like there nothing. Whereas if I chose the Rapier, I could slay even faster than the CLS's already increased performance over the whip, but I couldn't boss hunt as well as I could if I were using a whip/CLS/GS. Maybe I'm just speaking out of my ass, I don't have either, and wont for a while. But, that's my POV atm. I still don't really know for sure if the CLS is better, I just changed my POV, as I probably will a hundred times before I actually get either.

I love you, Jake XD This is hilarious, you better make a sequel, or... I'll launch my fist into your testicles with all the power my level 99 strength can muster! You know where it goes from there... :P OOOOOH, AND, GRATZ ON 99 SLAYER<3

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Why would anyone use the Primal kiteshield instead of the Promethium platebody? Only people with 90 Mining and 99 Smithing should bind Primal at this point, and the legs are better than the Kiteshield.

Even on monsters with insane defense, that can be safe-spotted?

Already done it, but I guess it can't hurt to do it again. =) I'm thinkinggg... Standard spellbook? ^^. Yeah, that would be cool :P Maging zilyana is easy :P Max mage bonus you can get, ancients, barrage, switch to Karil body, Rune cbow and Accumulator. It's really fun too ;D But that's hybriding. I mean purely maging. [/hide] Talked to her and it's scheduled for tomorrow. I'll post a vid right after we do it. ^^. Any more rules for it, or just maging? It have to be standard spellbook? Mage hits with the same accuracy as range on Zilyana if you have a high enough mage bonus, so it shouldn't be too hard, unless you welfare. But then again, you're trading your defense for offense, and you've never maged Zilyana before, so good luck! ;p

Magic longbow (sighted) gives a whopping 140 range bonus, this is 32 more than that of a Chaotic crossbow and an Unholy book. It is 40 more than a fully charged Crystal bow, and it is also 42 more than a Rune crossbow and an Unholy book. This makes the Sighted bow extremely accurate when compared to the three next best combo's. Magic longbow (sighted) Using Void range with rune arrows, you'd have a range bonus of 175 and a max hit of 319 with Extreme range potion, Eagle eye, 99 range, using rapid. Using max range bonus gear with rune arrows, you'd have a range bonus of 250 and a max hit of 266 with Extreme range potion, Eagle eye, 99 range, using rapid. Rune crossbow + Unholy book Using Void range with Diamond (e) bolts (no special), you'd have a range bonus of 133 and a max hit of 467 with Extreme range potion, Eagle eye, 99 range, using rapid. Using max range bonus gear with Diamond (e) bolts (no special), you'd have a range bonus of 208 and a max hit of 395 with Extreme range potion, Eagle eye, 99 range, using rapid. Longbows have the same speed as Rune crossbow's, only now, the longbow is much more accurate. I guess the question I'm asking would be: Is the gained accuracy worth the loss of damage, if so, where?

Already done it, but I guess it can't hurt to do it again. =) I'm thinkinggg... Standard spellbook? ^^. Yeah, that would be cool :P Maging zilyana is easy :P Max mage bonus you can get, ancients, barrage, switch to Karil body, Rune cbow and Accumulator. It's really fun too ;D

How much have you lost in gear/runes/food/pots, and what gear do you use? :o

I said: What what, in the butt.

Congrats, Den! :D Now make an outfit with that cape ;)

It's actually a rare site for me to NOT see that gear at least once every task.

I've hit in the 70's with my AGS through melee protect before, and I've never heard anything about protect/deflect prayer REDUCING damage, just the chance to hit. Until I see proof, aka, hundreds of hits tested, no max above 60% of what the hit would have been, or a direct statement from JaGex, then I refuse to believe that it reduces damage.

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prbably the new dbone prices im actualy quite happy with this, even tho i just bought soul split this may make turmoil slightly cheaper since i do need 8980 more bones (ill buy 9001 for the heck of it) It's over 8000 ;)

1-99 slayer with the BC is only like 200-300k prayer exp IIR. :c

I can promise you that meleeing them with a lbs/whip with your stats is MUCH faster than maging with max accuracy using sol/stream and casting fire surge. Magic isn't that accurate on them, it's a well accepted fact. Actually, maging them works quite well. That's if you use a decent spell. I was Earth surging the ones in Kuradal's dungeon and was beating out most of the others who were meleeing. Same went for iron dragons. If you're using the Magic Dart, its not really worth it to use that spell to kill anything. Unless you're using it at DKs or Barrows, but once you get a decent magic levels better spells become available. I've used fire surge on them before, and the kills are extremely slow. Mage is incredibly inaccurate, and costs too much per spell to be practical. It's cheaper and faster with melee, so why people mage them for anything other than fun mage exp is beyond me.