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This is hardly a realistic comparative quote. Let's rephrase it, shall we, to make it actually the same. I don't condone Israel's actions here. They broke international law, tried to bully their way into public opinion by appearing tough, and are partially spouting propaganda designed to hide their guilt. But this is no one way street. The activists wanted to illegally break a legal blockade put in place for a very good reason (although specifics are questionable). They were looking for a fight, and they got one. As I've always maintained, Israel has the opportunity to be the better man in this situation. They didn't have to board. But they have decided strong arming is their best course of action, and will reap the consequences now and in the future.

Yeah I was wondering what the major change was. Nice to hear they don't rely on IE anymore.

I use notepad++ for html, css, and php. Visual Studio for C#, and Netbeans for Java. Other than that I don't do much development so that's all. Netbeans is by far my favorite, I find it very intuitive and fast.

Armory link? :P Had a great ICC25 run the other day, got 264 boots and cape, as well as quest blood from rotface. Got beaten on the roll for bone arbiter though, but 3 things won on 4 things rolled, can't complain :P Will have 5.8k gs once I get my t10 legs (within a week). Should make pugging a lot easier. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Scilla&cn=Mansfield

Just gonna level my pally to 85 (and maybe my druid if I keep leveling her)

Easiest thing to do is forget about IE and use Firefox/Chrome. They'll still need a clean copy of IE and its' rendering engine in order to view '.chm' help files and properly use programs that were designed specifically (and in my opinion, stupidly) to use IE's rendering systems. There is just about no way, almost literally, to forget completely about IE if you're a Windows (or as I like to think of it, WinBlows) user. Microsoft made it so there are too many hoops to even try to step around, including really stupid legal issues. :( I'll be one to admit, though, that I wish there was a way to change the rendering engine all across the Windows OS Subsystem. Imagine, Windows Explorer, using FireFox's rendering engine to handle everything. :lol: ~D. V. "I really wish Windows Users could forget IE... Dang." Devnull Well, it's pretty much impossible to "remove" IE from your windows install. Using the IE tab in firefox will suit you well for most things, but as DVD said you will encounter the occasional program that just won't function without IE. If you find that happening often reformatting may be your only option. Also, depending on what version of IE you are using you could upgrade to a newer version, which may fix the problem as well.

Easiest thing to do is forget about IE and use Firefox/Chrome.

I wasn't meaning to be snide at all, and I'm sure he/she will be an excellent mod. I actually just was unaware of who he/she was :P

Grats both :) Who is strilmus?

Oh ok, so you'd see nothing wrong with the whole situation if the Israeli soldiers merely stabbed them repeatedly and beat them over the head with wrenches and bats.

Yet you ignore my post asking you to come up with a better strategy for Israel. You expect me to lay out a comprehensive Middle East peace plan in a forum posting? :rolleyes: I expect you to do that in a few sentences. You seem perfectly content to criticize from an armchair while fully ignoring the complexities and realities of the situation.

Yet you ignore my post asking you to come up with a better strategy for Israel.

I definitely support this.

Also, are these overweight kookaburras African or European?

Already have, several times. All they had to do was stop the ship from docking, or insist that they supervise and inspect all items. Problem solved. I'm referring to the situation as a whole. I'm well aware of the far better alternatives to the illegal search and ensuing gun battle.

Holy [cabbage] ! Lmao, me too!

Yeah, I've seen it before, that's insane. I hope they have the common sense to evacuate the area at least and do tests on the nearby sewage systems to see if there is any further risk.

Not aimed at me, but from an Israeli citizen: I was referring to the situation as a whole, I'm well aware that this incident was handled quite poorly on Israel's part.

Qeltar, why don't you sum up in a quick post the way you think Israel should handle this situation? I'm curious to see what miraculous perfect solution you can come up with.

Do a full scan, and post a HJT Log.

Well I suppose they would be a good way to make money if you just want the frosts. I'd do that 10m normal, can't get much from there.

in this case, you follow international law. look at how serious a VERY similar example was, under the Cuban Missile Crisis. There are international regulations to avoid exactly that type of situation. if you have no legal jurisdiction to board a vessels, or search a person, you don't do it. another parallel example is that of apprehending a criminal in a different country, where you have no jurisdiction: Mullah Krekar is wanted for terrorism in many countries around the world. He has asylum in norway. You can't have an israeli police officer apprehend him here in norway for crimes against humanity. you can't apprehend him if he's fishing 65 miles from the israeli mainland. you have to wait to see if he's an idiot and enters your sovereign waters. otherwise it's piracy, and kidnapping. I don't object to the search, per say. I object to the illegal manner in which it was done. call it preventative, call it whatever you like, it's illegal, immoral and illogical. Considering the hypotheticals further: what if the ships intended on stopping on the international border, asking for permission to deliver aid, and be searched peacefully? what if the Israelis followed their own protocol in boarding ships for customs inspections, rather than dropping down in military helicopters with special forces troops? we'll never know. of course some of you will argue that the rhetoric of the demonstrators legitimized this kind of action. but it is just that: rhetoric, words; NOT actions. If norway moves all its navy towards the russian border, through international borders, that doesn't give the russians reason to attack, to board, to do anything. sovereign ships under sovereign have basic rights: of free travel, of fair treatment, of the laws of the land being followed. you cannot deny people their basic human rights. I basically agree with this lol, my main objection to Israel's action is that the searching occurred in international water. He appeared to state that the search itself was not condone-able regardless of location.

Horray a fat bird. Not sure exactly what discussion you want from this topic?