Skeptical

Yes, that sounds very conclusive. And without any links to an actual study or scientist with that opinion.

Sources for all claims, please. Cigarette smoking also increases the risk of cancer for the woman, premature birth, etc. If that's a reason for abortion to be disallowed, why not cigarettes as well? http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/14332_1171.asp

I have no idea why limiting the sale of rifles is wrong. I can understand banning a specific religion being morally reprehensible though. It's either all of them, or none of them. Why though, can wars now be privatized (Blackwater) but not the prison system? Hell, let's just skip the courts: I'm sure that we can find a corporation to conduct trials, and it'll probably be faster. /saracasm

My Ruin: Beauty Fiend

So this is what happens in Forum Games. :ohnoes:

Lol. I sent him a message asking him the same thing.

Yea, it go some pretty mediocre reviews, last time I checked.

Good thing music is a product, not information. Limewire didn't just facilitate the transfer of music. The same way Bittorent doesn't facilitate transfer of copyrighted material? I'm certainly not saying that the medium is to blame, but we all know what's going on here.

The musicians that spend all of their time fighting piracy really aren't even producing art: it's really just sophisticated marketing schemes devised by the record companies. Music however, is not really information. And I think that artists should be properly compensated: maybe if record companies are so worried about it, they can give some of the money made from sales of clothing and records back to the artists, and the artists can work to develop new ways to make money.

You know what's appalling? The number of abortionists that are convicted felons. http://abortionviolence.com/INDEX.HTM You know is sad?A 2009 study showed that 64% of woman feel pressure to have an abortion. You say that pro-lifers hate women, but we're the ones that are running extensive networks to help crisis pregnancies. Half of being a sidewalk counselor is knowing where to take women after they change their minds. The other half usually involves praying in front of an abortion facility. But really, under all that prayer and support for total strangers, we really do hate women. You don't hate them: but you are misguided enough to seriously set back equality in modern society. I've seen anti-abortionists in front of clinics, and it's not pretty: in general, it involves harassing women, their husbands and boyfriends, death threats directed at doctors, etc. Prayer costs nothing and does nothing. I don't see your point. I would like to see the statistics for doctors who don't perform abortions: how many have been either accused of, and convicted of malpractice? In this age of lawyers, I have to wonder if the numbers wouldn't be telling.

I got in a fight with someone over that once. It's a sign of social dominance, at least in some groups.

Worry about the people that already suffer lives not worth living, then worry about making sure there are more people to suffer.

They're paying for it with their hearing. I just consider that, at which point I feel compassion instead of annoyance.

Religious convictions are impossible to disprove; ergo, we take the battle to other fields, where logic is actually necessary for victory.

Doesn't take much to make Anon rage....

:thumbup: for the wealth gap! Not trolling though. I just took my one shot at capitalism, that's it.

When is murder warranted? When another life is directly in danger. Thus, an abortion is warranted when the life of the mother is directly in danger. I also find it a little odd you assume every aborted child would have been a burnout anyway... Well, the life of the mother isn't in danger. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1883598,00.html Now, we can move on to disease: you believe that even children who are so badly defective they won't live for more than a few days, or even hours, should not be aborted? After all, most of them can be delivered quite safely.

Abortion: Intentional - certainly. Unwarranted - almost always, and in the cases where it is warranted I've no moral objection. Living - a fetus is biologically alive. This is scientific fact. Human - this one is a little more up for grabs. Unwarranted? You're preventing yet another unwanted child in the world, another kid to be abused, thrown away, or just end up drifting aimlessly through social programs until they hit a dead end. When do you think it's warranted? Rape? Disease? Yes, it's alive. No one could possibly doubt that. But so was the burger I'm planning to eat for dinner tonight.

That mixed DNA is sounding very important right now, isn't it? And yes, I believe that an anti-abortion stance has a very firm basis in ignorance. I don't have the numbers, but I would say that a vast majority of those that oppose it are doing it due to religious convictions. Hardly very convincing evidence.

I believe that you don't actually buy anything from ITunes: you license it, which is actually quite different. http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/09/07/itunes-songs-arent-purchased-but-licensed-court-rules/

I offered an answer: I've tried repeatedly, not only on this thread and others. A fertilized egg is little more a human being that some sperm cells. I dismiss terms of relative morality, as I believe I explained earlier in this(?) thread. Preventing woman from making choices about their own bodies, and increasing the number of unwanted children does not create a happier, more stable form of humanity. When the problem is considered by gut reaction, we end up with "they're killing babies!"

I prefer to employ the rather more derisive term brown-noser.

For people who don't want to do something, but want to pretend that they're "cool enough" to do it if there was no penalty in place.

I'm assuming though, that this would set a precedent for shutting down other file-sharing sites, which is worrisome.

Lives saved... yes, I suppose we should all rejoice when someone turns vegetarian, then: after all, a fully grown cow is much more intelligent and "alive" than a bunch of cells a few weeks old. I think if there was mandatory science education in religious schools, we would see far fewer of these issues. Reminds me of this comic: