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I really would say ditch it tbf, but I have never used a BGS therefore don't know how useful it can be. But from other people I hear that GS's only really should be used for speccing on slayer tasks and WF's. And you have kind of contradicted yourself on it because you said in your first post of the topic "after realising I wouldn't use it any time soon" Therefore why buy it back? Whip + defender obviously outstrip the killing rate of a BGS for slayer. 2nd tip is to switch back to normal prayers and pray piety with a verac skirt and prosy top combo. It's only 1 less prayer than prosy top and legs, but alot more defence. Piety beats curses until you can soul spit and turmoil. 3rd If you don't struggle with your setup then fine, but I would advise torags top due to the defensive bonuses; however if you cope easily with guthans top, then I don't see why not.

Bruno...... Please..... Put down the knives..... And step away from them.....

Go FoG in F2P :thumbup: You should annihilate everything and everyone in sight :) (well your target atleast)

SoL should be used..... that's all I know on this :P

IMO I'd say that Bandos is a waste of money and should be below the Torags plate on the majority of the things you have it first. The only one Bandos comes first in is the ranged bonus, however 1 more range defence than Torags is really negligible. Actually torags trounces BCP in defensive stats. So therefore the torag plate should come before Bandos. Oh and for metal dragons it would be advised mostly to whip them, especially as bronze are so weak that a ZS and wasting a superantifire would be futile. However, epic guide I must say :) I will be using this and giving credit to you when I create my slayer guide that I'm doing over easter as I'm bored and probably posting here. :D

I guess that Alching yew longs is your only hope really. Could try and do the Lunar quests for magic exp too though and some spells on there are supposed to be good. GL :)

No one bothered because they monopolised the thread assuming you are meleeing and therefore showing you that rune defender is the best thing in the shield slot out there followed by BSS and DFS. Unless of course you wanted it for cosmetic looks then I'd say go with the dragon sq. In regards to your template we really needed to know what you wanted. Best look will always be biased to the person: For example if you didn't specify the whole "Dragon sq or Obby shield" I'd have said DFS, Whip, Prosy, Slay Helm and Fire cape is an epic skillers outfit as well as a good looking setup for dragons. But yea if you want defence go with the Dragon Sq, if you want strength then go with Obby. However I would sincerely advise if you're killing anything with it then go for Rune Defender.

No it's the watchtower quest :)

From common knowledge and what Qeltar just said I'd probably advise to go for blues in the ogre shaman cave. It's perhaps your next best bet. You could, ofcourse, cannon black dragons in zanaris as they break even generally if you bank hides and bones.

Now what other "awesome" update was sold like this? Mobilization armies anyone? No, pretty sure mobilizing armies wasn't advertised as meant to be its own game. Good try though, you really had me at the part where you couldn't even name the mini-game correctly. You're right, it IS unprofessional to make spelling errors on an online forum about a game. I hope you feel very validated now that everyone knows that you can pick out every last spelling error in a post. :thumbup: OT: Mobilizing Armies was hyped up as bringing RTS style game play to an MMORPG. Something totally different from what had been done before. In my opinion this is similar to the new skill which is also supposed to be something which has never been to before. However Mobilizing Armies failed and if the new skill fails I am sure there will be many, many more unhappy. I just hope any single update isn't the justification for the crappyness of the other updates. If you guys are being really nit picky about the spelling it's spelt: MOBILISING Armies ;) I'm just saying.

Good point :) but...... revenants ;)

This. However I'd say NR is a good update; but that was end of Jan...... The only updates that were of any relevant or good interest to the majority of people were NR, Strykewyrms, and trade limits I think (might edit this list when I look through the updates to see what was good). Jagex have basically just been using all the money to turn RS into a cash cow once again by doing alot for F2P. Not that I'm saying that it's wrong to give them attention; because they, the players, could well become members. I have never really complained about Jagex and when people like MHL have complained about updates I have found myself arguing against them and actually finding some alright. However this year there have only been 3 updates I have supported and have found myself increasingly agreeing with her and others. And for anyone who says about FT3, EW3 and the new skill; c'mon surely they can come up with better content than that? They implemented constitution back on the 3rd of March yet have done sweet F all with it so far. Why can't they focus on high level updates for skills that are DYING?! Smithing for example. My favourite skill on RS....... massive money sink if you want to get anywhere fast, massive time loss if you want to get anywhere at all with profit...... why haven't they done anything to this skill that is in dire need for an update? Constitution set it up spectacularly for an update but they haven't acted on it. And if you bring time into it like "they haven't had the time", well then my dears they should not have implemented an update that is bloody useless without having some content already there to use. It'd be like creating a quest then having to wait a few weeks for any tangible reward or putting in a new monster with no drops until a couple of weeks time. They have had plenty of time to create updates for us and if they hadn't wasted their sodding time on things like constitution then maybe we would be getting something better. Referring back a bit now to tip.it times and MHL's article..... At first I thought I'd never become one of the "Dinosaurs of Runescape" and that I'd enjoy alot of what's been coming out. I have found; however, that I am becoming wizened and annoyed by the lack of update to keep me here. And if anyone tells me to "just quit if you hate it that badly" the answer is that I don't want to quit. I actually still find the game quite enjoyable and I have alot more to do and explore. However I'm sick of seeing content like what has been coming out. I pay £3.50 a month for a game that I think is amazing; however that £3.50 a month is going into things that the majority of people will never use. I'm wondering how many people on that first day went and got the orb of occulus only to drop it during a week or so. Jagex need to get their act together sharpish before they start losing players.

i didnt know what the scroll did... >.< thanks, Bunyip scroll allows you to eat raw fish as long as you have the level to cook it.

Green dragons at CT are probably the best option; though if you have done the watchtower quest you could always go with the blues in that ogre place. Anyways: Sir Hemen has an epic video somewhere on youtube...... His setup was something like: Neitz Prosy top Prosy Bottom Antifire shield D boots Barrow gloves Fury Fire cape Explorer ring Whip And he used a yak....... he also had a pure set and an anti-fire pot with a prayer pot too...... oooh! Don't forget monkfish! You can obviously swap out things on this for whatever you feel; but it generally seems better to tank the hits the greens do (maybe take a super defence with you) and when you get blacks on you just switch on melee protect and focus on the greens still. Obviously use a war tort as it'll boost your total of bones up by 18. So.... if you manage to go through your pots and food that'll total - 45 bones a trip; therefore a yip is a waste if you want to be efficient with the killing. When I followed his guide he had a Home tab, restored any prayer that had gone down and then tele'd to edge, bank there, run to obelisk and restore summoning if needed, then run north of GE run to CT through the portal you need...... Rinse and Repeat. Oh and a word of advice ;) If you're going for 60 prayer via this then cut out the middle man of a guided altar of your own and go to world 33(?) - the house party world - and ask for the house with the altar and lecterns. Pro's get 70 prayer through the house party world :) EDIT: I just realised that I only factored in the d bones. The hides might be a good idea to bank too as it's extra money you didn't have before and they're ~2K last time I looked. Therefore with a tort that allows you 9 extra kills (if you put all the hides and bones into it), and your invo allows 13 kills (if you keep 1 slot with a tele tab in it) EDIT 2: Here are the videos :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl6gFb1lpTE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z45cW8nE_T4&feature=related

i_r_slayer got it right: cancel the selling of the ZS and Karils, you need them for slayer. Your setup looks good tbh. Anyways I'll just post what I personally think is a slayers must have kit. Full Slayer Helm/Slayer Helm Torag body/Barrow melee and Karils top and Proselyte top Verac Skirt/Torag leg/Barrow melee and Proselyte legs Dragon Boots Barrow Gloves Fury/Glory Fire Cape/SW Cape/Skill Cape (t)/Skill Cape/Obby Cape/Ardy Cape (you're wearing ardy so that begs the question whether or not you're pietying every task) Whip Defender SS/ZS RoL/Warrior/Zerker/Dragonstone (i)/Onyx (i)/Warrior (i)/Zerker (i) Cannon Cannon Balls Potions like super attacks, strengths, and maybe defences, and prayer pots Bunyip Pouches and scrolls. Pile of monkfish. From there on you *should* make a profit even pietying and cannoning everything you can. A good piety setup would be prosy top with v skirt which will allow for defence and only 1 less prayer bonus than the prosy legs and top combo. I may add to this list, but that's all I can think of atm. 79 summoning and 80 prayer IMO wont make you slay more effectively. I still use a bunyip at times at 90 summon and have yet to use a titan of any sorts, so stick with the yip. That little green smelly lizard is perhaps THE best summoning familiar out there regardless of what people say about ponies.

I agree with the slowed down content. If you're talking about from the beginning of the year then don't forget NR, Strykewyrms, and trade limits though. However I do totally agree with you about members having been neglected recently.

Flecthing maple longs might do?

Need rank 400 in MA and then the officers will enchant it for you.

Is it bad that I looked at it thought "what's th...... oh ok some awesome concept art of corpy" and continued doing what I was doing..... it certainly is interesting but kinda in a way misleading that you need to be members to access that monster, actually any boss monster. But epic art is epic :thumbup:

Yea crims seem to be the fastest possible route...... Going to be a right mission to get the 10-11K I need though >.<

Some British Pagan thingy related to Esther or some pagan God/Goddess along those lines....... parents told me ages ago and I've forgotten...... Christianity Hijacked it :)

Agreed. Though you could swap the mage book. High defence would be DFS. Epic mage setup would be an arcane SS. Fire cape is probably the best there as it has the +1 attack. Ummmm, if we knew your summoning we could advise a wolpertinger, or perhaps mage pots/extreme mage.

Well with WF's the setup would be simple and easy tbf as you should know: Neitz SW/Skill (t) Karil top/Dhide Karil bottom/Dhide D Boots Barrow Gloves Fury/Glory SS/ZS Yip, scrolls, prayer pots for range pray and piety, dramen/lunar staff for fairy ring, Pure set. Should make profit too tbf. So yeah you can make it within the 20m. And your stats are better than mine for it. I have 30m I'm willing to spend because I really want to try and get me a yak so I need ~10K crims according to the people on my thread. So my setup is a little different what with the pony because I wont need range pray.

it could break your bank. I'm no expert, so I'll let someone else satisfy this part. However I would advise WF's. They're easy enough really, and with familiarisation it makes them even better for charm gathering; also there's no time wasted getting there and you're closer to banks if you get in trouble.

Familiarisation + weekly WF trips. Camping WF's wherever you feel however I'll let bladewing and co call whether or not you can do CT ones. Oh and cannoning walliskies.