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That I'm smarter than else everyone here.

I like the price of furys as it is. It's way better than everything else, and it deserves to have a high cost. Killing Tzhaars is fairly profitable, so if a low level wants an uncut onyx, all they have to do it just safely range away for a couple weeks and get 2.7M tokkul, all the while making about 200k gp/hour from normal drops. A high level can get 2.7M tokkul in around 30 hours, which makes it about 400k gp/hour not counting other drops + good exp. I don't see how it's very overpriced. It's tedious, but not overpriced.

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money. Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better? I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M ... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M. um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83. They are not 1/150 for items, they're 1/300, considering there are 3 items there is a 1/100 chance for a bandos item that is an armour, also hilts are 1/500, so in the case where you did 500 kills there would be 1 hilt and 5 armour pieces for a total of 6 drops in 500 kills for a 1/83 total rate also I was still lenient underestimating bandos' dry kill profit, There is no common drop for bandos that is under 18k alone without the bones, coins are 1/4 for 20k, meeting costs, 1/13 for 19k rune longs for 1k loss 1/13 rune plate 50k profit 116 super restores, 37k profit 1/17 nature rune, 3k loss 1/17 coal, 13k profit 1/17 rune 2h, 37k profit 1/17 snap seed, 65k profit 1/18 magic log, 8k profit 1/25 rune pick, 1k loss 1/25 adddy ore, 1k profit I'm pretty sure most of those beat TD's average dry profit even if there is any I've gotten 15 d claws and 2 bandos items over 2m yet still think Bandos is better money, so there is no bias at all for me edit: yes leonardo, I was there but forgot to take a pic of everyone potting [/hide] That's not how it works, btw. Not counting boots (I rage quit whenever I see those...), the average rate is (1/300 + 1/300 + 1/500) = .008667. That's a .87% chance of getting a drop from bandos (Chest, Hilt, or Tassys). In 500 kills, you have a 16.7% chance of getting 5 items. Chest, Tassys, and Hilt are priced about the same. Normal drops, however, make Bandos a bit better than TD's, but not by much. TD's are 4M/hour+ for me. I can't even pull that off with duo ffa bandos, and I get most the drops with my friend, but I don't have OL's, either. as you said there is a .87% cahnce for a non boots bandos drop so thats (18:08:39) <@mazhar> !calc 500x.0087 (18:08:40) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 500x.0087 = 4.35 (in 500 kills) (18:09:23) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 4.35x24m = 104,400,000 (104.40m) while at tds there is a .4% chance of claws, and in 625 kills you will get 2.5 claws (hypothetically) (18:11:59) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 34.5mx2.5 = 86,250,000 (86.25m) (18:13:47) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 1.25x4m = 5,000,000 (5m) So you don't even need bone drops to get better money at bandos duo ffa bandos isn't supposed to be better money I don't want to continue this, but killing Graador is a lot slower, and less kills/trip than TD's (considering time it takes to restock TD's, there's technically infinite kills/trip). I've never tried solo Graador with OL's + brews, so I wouldn't know about that. I call kill way more than 625 TD's in the time it takes someone to kill 500 Graador's. But then again, there's also minions that have a slight chance to drop at least one item in 1500 kills. ... We should have a contest, lol.

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I think you misread what i wrote. Not only this particular bill, where the republicans were uninclined to cooperate accross the isle, but that's another story. Birbery happens with every bill. Republicans, independants, democrats are all part of the system, because that's what it is: systematic bribery with every bill. Yup. I watched Glenn Beck a few days ago (I died a little on the inside), and he said that Obama was bribing senators with additions to the bill, and I started crying... This happens all the time, to every president, to every party that's ever been in power. This doesn't make it a bad thing, but eh. I don't support the Government worker's extravagant pay either, but I wont complain unless it goes any further. I guess all we can do is sit and let senators waste $20M on bridges to nowhere while bills get passed. It's how congress keeps things running with 535 people who always disagree with each other.

[hide] I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money. Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better? I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M ... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M. um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83. They are not 1/150 for items, they're 1/300, considering there are 3 items there is a 1/100 chance for a bandos item that is an armour, also hilts are 1/500, so in the case where you did 500 kills there would be 1 hilt and 5 armour pieces for a total of 6 drops in 500 kills for a 1/83 total rate also I was still lenient underestimating bandos' dry kill profit, There is no common drop for bandos that is under 18k alone without the bones, coins are 1/4 for 20k, meeting costs, 1/13 for 19k rune longs for 1k loss 1/13 rune plate 50k profit 116 super restores, 37k profit 1/17 nature rune, 3k loss 1/17 coal, 13k profit 1/17 rune 2h, 37k profit 1/17 snap seed, 65k profit 1/18 magic log, 8k profit 1/25 rune pick, 1k loss 1/25 adddy ore, 1k profit I'm pretty sure most of those beat TD's average dry profit even if there is any I've gotten 15 d claws and 2 bandos items over 2m yet still think Bandos is better money, so there is no bias at all for me edit: yes leonardo, I was there but forgot to take a pic of everyone potting [/hide] That's not how it works, btw. Not counting boots (I rage quit whenever I see those...), the average rate is (1/300 + 1/300 + 1/500) = .008667. That's a .87% chance of getting a drop from bandos (Chest, Hilt, or Tassys). In 500 kills, you have a 16.7% chance of getting 5 items. Chest, Tassys, and Hilt are priced about the same. Normal drops, however, make Bandos a bit better than TD's, but not by much. TD's are 4M/hour+ for me. I can't even pull that off with duo ffa bandos, and I get most the drops with my friend, but I don't have OL's, either.

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money. Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better? I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M ... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M.

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[hide] If you took a sample size of, say, 10,000 kills I'm sure you'd have more profit from TDs than Bandos. If you were to receive a massive dry streak from Bandos, wouldn't you agree that it'd be more logical to kill TDs? 250 hours at tds:6250 kills (15:38:09) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 25x Dragon Claws: (822.50m 865m 907.50m) (Today: +13.02m [521000gp/+1.5%]) (15:38:25) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 13x Ruined Dragon Armour Slice: (49.40m 52m 54.60m) (Today: +301.6k [23200gp/+0.6%]) (15:38:57) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 52m+865m = 917,000,000 (917m) Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies 250 hours at Bandos: 5000 kills, its 20/hr even including the 7 minute banking, while I didn't deduct kills/hr for TDs, or it would be 22 instead of the 25 I counted (15:39:57) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 10x Bandos Hilt: (235m 247m 259m) (Today: +1.68m [168500gp/+0.7%]) (15:41:32) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 17x Bandos Tassets: (389.30m 409.70m 430.10m) (Today: +2.91m [171600gp/+0.7%]) (15:41:46) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 17x Bandos Chestplate: (389.30m 409.70m 430.10m) (Today: +2.04m [120400gp/+0.5%]) (15:42:07) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 17x Bandos Boots: (15.51m 16.33m 17m) (Today: +265.2k [15600gp/+1.7%]) (15:44:13) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 5000x Ourg Bones: (77.50m 81.50m 85.50m) (Today: -1.39m [-278gp/-1.7%]) (15:45:34) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 16.33m+81.5m+409.7m+409.7m+247m = 1,164,230,000 (1.16b) Supplies cost like 20k/kill and you get 40k average per kill so counting only bones is an understatement What was that you were saying, muggi? TD trips always pay off for me, even if I don't get claws (almost 1k dry without claws, and 2 shards...). I get like 500k/trip, and supplies barely cost me like 300k [/hide]Im sure he meant people who use good supplies. Lol, I use: 10 p pots, 2 ext sets (range, str, atk), ags/claws, broad bolts, and unicorns. Can't get much better/more expensive

If you took a sample size of, say, 10,000 kills I'm sure you'd have more profit from TDs than Bandos. If you were to receive a massive dry streak from Bandos, wouldn't you agree that it'd be more logical to kill TDs? 250 hours at tds:6250 kills (15:38:09) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 25x Dragon Claws: (822.50m 865m 907.50m) (Today: +13.02m [521000gp/+1.5%]) (15:38:25) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 13x Ruined Dragon Armour Slice: (49.40m 52m 54.60m) (Today: +301.6k [23200gp/+0.6%]) (15:38:57) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 52m+865m = 917,000,000 (917m) Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies 250 hours at Bandos: 5000 kills, its 20/hr even including the 7 minute banking, while I didn't deduct kills/hr for TDs, or it would be 22 instead of the 25 I counted (15:39:57) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 10x Bandos Hilt: (235m 247m 259m) (Today: +1.68m [168500gp/+0.7%]) (15:41:32) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 17x Bandos Tassets: (389.30m 409.70m 430.10m) (Today: +2.91m [171600gp/+0.7%]) (15:41:46) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 17x Bandos Chestplate: (389.30m 409.70m 430.10m) (Today: +2.04m [120400gp/+0.5%]) (15:42:07) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 17x Bandos Boots: (15.51m 16.33m 17m) (Today: +265.2k [15600gp/+1.7%]) (15:44:13) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 5000x Ourg Bones: (77.50m 81.50m 85.50m) (Today: -1.39m [-278gp/-1.7%]) (15:45:34) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 16.33m+81.5m+409.7m+409.7m+247m = 1,164,230,000 (1.16b) Supplies cost like 20k/kill and you get 40k average per kill so counting only bones is an understatement What was that you were saying, muggi? TD trips always pay off for me, even if I don't get claws (almost 1k dry without claws, and 2 shards...). I get like 500k/trip, and supplies barely cost me like 300k

So, I was at trio Armadyl CS in a pro team, and we were killing along, when one of my team members leaves. Now I'm duoing, and there's a mass outside for like 20 minutes. We were like, we're about to get crashed, one more kill. And *right* as they walk in, we get this Lulz at timing

I thought it was a Blast... Oise... *cries*

Lol, a lot has changed, and for the better. I suggest, however, that you don't start playing again... It's not worth it, lol. For starters, though, read through ALL the major updates on the Runescape Main page. Then you could try reading through some of the knowledge archives on these forums. Have fun. Lots of new quests that you should start.

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I luv Google, lol.

For some reason, I kept on getting the same "23.00 Skidoo" like every 2 refreshes, lol. Was getting kind of annoying trying to find the Gigawatt one. Epoch one made me lulz, lol. Well, mostly because I know what epoch means... *looks around*... Damn you Charles [bleep]ens... *shakes fists*

At zammy, you're not supposed to let your HP go below 70 while tanking in a team. During Solo, it's even worse, lol. Rage can pwn you if mini's get some good hits on you. Keep HP over 70 and you'll be fine (maybe, lol).

Zammy solo is harder, and you wont be able to get more than two per trip. However, I suggest you use karils instead of bandos. Kril' uses mage attacks, while you pro melee, so you need defense from that, and mage minion does the most damage anyway. The rest of your gear is fine, but glory would be better than str ammy (fury, too, but I'm assuming you don't have one/don't want to use one). At your levels, you have to use a GS, or you wont get consistent damage. Bring a BoB with sharks. Edit: Only use Melee prayer and Piety (forget pro item or other prayers). The more prayers you use, the more likely it is for Kril' to rage you, and while soloing, rage can combo you in one hit from 80+ HP easily.

I have 40 + 1 drag square. I bought them after the ROW update. I just assumed their drop rate would decrease and clans were being very stupid to not buy them out already. If you buy like 200 and they crash, what are they gonna crash to? Alch price? Lol. Edit: I lol'd at "Runescape God" comment. Qeltar, you should siggy that, lol.

Lol, purposefully? Please, elaborate. I need to know what's going on in your mind. Lol. OT: Abstinence education sucks. If I tell a kid to not go over and touch the ball, or he'll get AIDS and die in 20 years, WTF do you think the kid's going to do? Touch the god damn ball, right? That's abstinence edumacation.

Batman, I choose you...?

Oh god. How ever did you win with such nooby gear? Please, tell me your secret, poor one.

Oh, LMFAO. I was like WTF when I first saw the Pikachu, lol.