muggiwhplar

I think trying to hit on someone in a relationship is unnecessary. But if a person in a relationship tries to hit on you, then it's fair game. Either way, I'd rather just stick to single girls..

I predict unnecessary drama down the road. But you enjoy drama, so I suppose that's a good thing :P

Where is that confirmed?

He deserves it as much as anybody else does. He doesn't need to subscribe to your silly dungeoneering code of standards to justify it.

The only relevant economic "principle" that I've heard of regarding dating is something called "sexual market value." In the case of a man, you increase your SMV by increasing your confidence and non-neediness. In the case of a woman, you increase your SMV by increasing your physical attractiveness and kindness. The higher your SMV, the more members of the opposite sex will want you.

Sex drive in a poly setting remains constant for both parties. And I don't agree with that supply and demand explanation either.

[spoiler=Dear God, I post too much on this thread, I better stop] Correct me if I'm wrong, but I did not see a single instance of Old Joe seeing through Young Joe's mind, although the opposite happened a few times. Maybe Old Joe was too blind to see past his actions? [hide]Old Joe knew Young Joe was at the farm with Cid because of his memories. He also saw Young Joe smashing his cell phone instead of going to the train station earlier in the film[/hide] [hide]I can't see any other reason then other than the idea that Old Joe was too blind with anger and rage to realize how his actions will contribute to the Rainmaker's ascension to power. That's kind of a weak argument, though.[/hide] This explains it: [hide]And by "explains it," I mean explains how it doesn't make sense :P http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2012/1001/Looper-The-ending-explained/%28page%29/4[/hide]

Curious how you answer the question "so what have you been up to this week" on these dates. Certainly you don't say that you've been on a date every other day... Well if they ask me that particular question, no, I'll talk about other things I've done. However, one question I ask my girls is if they've been dating a lot or a little lately, and how that's going for them. If they ask me the same thing, I'll briefly talk about my own recent experiences before asking her more questions. Similarly, sometimes I'll talk about girls that I've dated (or am currently dating) if it's funny and relevant to the conversation. I want to convey that I date a lot and that I'm used to having many women in my life. Like I've said many times before-- you want her to see you as a potential lover, not a provider.

Online dating is more of a logistical thing than a "seduction" thing. Once you're sitting in front of her somewhere, online dating has served its purpose and it's time to begin the "natural" part. --- Been on 3 dates so far this week. Got a date tomorrow evening with one more girl, then I need to start scheduling some second dates. This has been good practice at directly developing relationships with "strangers"-- one thing I've never been good at. --- Also: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4790313.stm

[spoiler=Dear God, I post too much on this thread, I better stop] Correct me if I'm wrong, but I did not see a single instance of Old Joe seeing through Young Joe's mind, although the opposite happened a few times. Maybe Old Joe was too blind to see past his actions? [hide]Old Joe knew Young Joe was at the farm with Cid because of his memories. He also saw Young Joe smashing his cell phone instead of going to the train station earlier in the film[/hide]

[hide]I didn't understand how Young Joe realized that killing Cid's mother would transform him into the Rainmaker, yet Old Joe didn't realize that, even though they share the same memories[/hide]

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If I'm understanding this correctly, you're trying to meet up with them, but you're not sure how? Do they know you're moving out in two weeks? If you're gonna be going out partying some time soon, just tell them you're going out and they're welcome to join you and then make a move once they're there. Or you could try what I've been doing, and start a text/FB conversation with them, and after a little bit, say something like, "Let's meet up for drinks or something. I'm pretty busy right now, but I'll be free on [insert a couple of available times]. Let me know if either of those work." --then meet up with her for a drink (or coffee. or dessert. or whatever) and try making a move then. When the "date" is over, you can say something like "well I'm just gonna go back to my place and watch [insert tv show or film genre that she likes]." if she seems enthusiastic about that, then you can go on to say something like, "well you're welcome to join me if you want!" and then you can take it from there :P Or you could always just straight up invite her over to your place and cut out all the other "steps." Riskier to do that, but idk how "close" you are with these girls. If they know you're leaving soon and wanna hook up, then they'll probably be down to come over to your place for some BS reason lol

I really doubt you and Claire actually "love" each other. You've known each other for what? 3 months? That's just infatuation/honeymoon period stuff. Just remember never to lie to any of the girls. Leading them on is also bad. They all have the right to know that you'll be gone soon. If they choose to stick around after they know you'll be leaving, then it's fair game. You're gonna kind of have a hard time being poly with a girl so close to you. It's good to always "suggest" that you're seeing other women, but it's bad to rub it in their faces. By having her live so close to you, I would be prepared for drama if she's looking for something more than just a FB relationship. With that said, I wouldn't act like a boyfriend around her because that'd be leading her on and setting you up for drama down the road. Just see her once a week maximum for sex and don't do anything like cuddling or letting her spend the night or taking her out to dinner or anything like that. If she isn't ok with that, then you should quit seeing her.

Oh, whoops! We've talked about this before, remember? :P http://forum.tip.it/...ost__p__5303938 In other words, I'm not quite sure how many "cycles" the relationships will last for since I haven't had long enough experience to know yet. However, based on what I've read by people who've been doing this for many, many years, the cycles will continue practically forever. But when it comes to poly, it's mostly about the fun you two have while you're together. The total time spent together and the number of times that she returns back to you is sort of irrelevant; mostly because she's instantly "replaced" when she temporarily leaves. As opposed to monogamy where if you two break up, all hell breaks loose :P

IDK how I missed this. Sorry muggi! :( No, I feel you were being deceptive because of your personality, regardless of what you put in a little disclaimer. Well again, my personality and my profile are very "congruent." It's not like I'm posing as a completely different person. My female friends who have read my profile and the messages I send out don't have any objections to it because nothing seemed "wrong" or "deceptive" to them. Also regarding deception, keep in mind as Randox pointed out, basically every person in a relationship has technically been guilty of deception at one point or another simply by not being 100% honest right off the bat. It'd be different if I was claiming to be a Hollywood movie star that earns millions of dollars per year, but I'm not doing anything like that. Not even close. Finally, keep in mind that I did a poor job of actually stating what my profile says and what I say in my opener on here. I'm being honest more than anything else with my profile text; many girls message me back complimenting me on my honesty. Well I am kind of the black sheep of the group when it comes to this sort of thing :P Not really playing a role... it's like the resume analogy that was brought up earlier. I'm just emphasizing my strengths within the context of dating on my profile. My goal is simply to have romantic, exciting relationships with beautiful women; with minimal effort, drama, and sacrifices; and without having to promise monogamy. There's a reason why I'm treating the online dating aspect like a numbers game: because it is a numbers game! :P I've sent out 134 messages this week and scheduled 11 dates as a result. Can you even imagine how long it would take if I messaged those girls one a time, waiting for a response? Or how long it would take if I only talked to one girl at a time once I was getting responses? Or how long it would take to schedule a date with a girl, see how it goes, then wait until we either enter the relationship phase or lose interest before moving on to the next girl? Or how susceptible to neediness (bad for both sides) I would be if I was doing this all with one girl at a time? Again, am I being politically correct here? No. Am I being rational and smart about this? Yes. :D No worries, though. Once I'm in actual relationships with these girls, it'll be much more "natural" and no longer a numbers thing. Also, you need to define what's "meaningful." Most people seem to think that behaving irrationally and making huge sacrifices just for that "special someone" is meaningful. It isn't. It's stupid and equally damaging to both sides in the long run. I just hope you're not falling into the trap of thinking, "only low-quality girls will go for you if you behave like that!" or "only low-quality women have sex before the third date!" All untrue.

Both. There have actually been a few girls whom I've discussed it with, and they all confirmed my thoughts and agreed with me, albeit reluctantly haha

Went out drinking with some friends last night, including a close friend's girlfriend. A girl I opened last week randomly messaged me back at like midnight while we were at a bar, and so I scheduled a meet with her while my friend's girlfriend watched with interest, lol. She read my profile and the conversation I had leading up to me scheduling the meet and she was like, "Damn. That was perfect." THE SYSTEM WORKS!!! I live within 20 minutes of Philadelphia (fairly major US city, if you're unfamiliar) and I found a good sum of attractive women, but I wouldn't say 100. Using what I think is the same site (okcupid). Not that it matters i guess. That's why I use two dating sites; to double my numbers :D

We'll have to agree to disagree then.

Does that mean that you agree that the ends justify the means when it comes to "deception," then?

Are you saying that Jagex is not subsiding and encouraging a particular behaviour and thus has no responsibility in this matter? Is Jagex "encouraging" unhealthy playing habits? Directly, no. Indirectly, maybe. Either way, it doesn't matter. It's still the players' responsibility to play in moderation. I'll understand WHY a player chose to be stupid and not sleep for 48 hours, however I won't feel sorry for them because they had a CHOICE to sleep or continue playing, and they willingly chose the unhealthy option. Not sure why this is such an issue. People would be a lot happier if they quit worrying about other peoples' stupid decisions and started worrying about their own.

If players choose the "unhealthy" path of playing for a full 48 hours, that's not Jagex's fault. That's the player's fault. It's the player's responsibility to make responsible life decisions. It's not like Jagex is holding a loaded gun to everyone's head and forcing them to play for two days straight. If you get sick or something as a result of grinding for so long, you have no one to blame but yourself. At the end of the day, you're the one who chose to do that. Nonsense. Actions often have measurable social impacts. What's happening here is Jagex is providing(for some people) what is a strong incentive to engage in a particular form of behaviour which they likely would not have engaged in if not for Jagex. Simply pretending that individuals are atomised automatons who are not at all affected by their environment is silly. Absolving Jagex of the responsibility for the predictable consequences of their actions is the height of absurdity. Are you saying the players are not responsible for their own decisions?

It's too bad I can't just copy and paste my opener and profle text here. Like I said, nothing in my profile or anything is a lie, and there's nothing to feel deceived about. I've shown my profile and online conversations to three female friends and they didn't think poorly of anything. This is likely my fault for poorly describing the actual content of my profile, opener, and personality here a few pages back... Oh well haha

Again-- in my opener which I send to every woman, I explicitly state that I'm not as much of a jerk as my profile implies. If a girl chooses to continue talking to me after reading that, then she has waived her right to claim that she was "deceived." Also keep in mind that being a nice guy and being a jerk aren't mutually exclusive.